tdioiler
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Message Posted: Jan 7, 2013 10:38:17 PM
Must not have been a big seller...
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TwoNursesRUs
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Message Posted: Jan 7, 2013 5:50:15 PM
Must be before my time
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BartandLisa
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Message Posted: Jan 7, 2013 5:33:27 PM
Not old enough, I guess
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cifuentesab
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 3:53:58 PM
no
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cools1611
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 3:44:26 PM
nope, I wasn't even born
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truckster
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 2:53:44 PM
not that old.
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Mr1lung
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 2:36:43 PM
no
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BMWer
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 10:46:00 AM
I guess mid-50's age group is too young!
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Hemond
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 10:45:50 AM
:::::During a "gas war" (how many of us still remember them?) ...... That was in th3e early 1970s.::::
Early 1970's? How about 2012? There are at least two gas wars going on in my neighborhood right now.
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Houckster
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 10:43:44 AM
If anyone wants to read about Zerolene, see my post of Sep 27, 2012 9:14:28 AM.
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wshokie12
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 9:50:02 AM
no
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PithyOpiner
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Message Posted: Dec 8, 2012 8:16:14 PM
Yup, whipper-snapper, I 'member that stuff.
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jscdig
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 11:00:48 AM
I remember paying .45 a quart when I started to drive back in the mid-60's, but I don't remember reclaimed oil.
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frugalshopper
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Message Posted: Nov 11, 2012 10:33:05 AM
I never really paid attention to how much things cost until I started to drive.
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MrDeath666
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Message Posted: Nov 10, 2012 7:49:27 PM
My dad probably bought that stuff!
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EvPv
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Message Posted: Nov 10, 2012 6:47:50 PM
scary thought: I'm on the threshold because I clicked on this to see if something in my youth became a 'remember when' item. I'm almost 44, so not quite there yet ;)
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toms1120
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Message Posted: Nov 10, 2012 5:44:35 PM
No
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Message Posted: Nov 10, 2012 12:31:33 PM
no
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Boyrr
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Message Posted: Nov 10, 2012 11:53:43 AM
Before me
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BUSSY
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Message Posted: Nov 10, 2012 11:22:13 AM
yes
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BuzzLOL
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Message Posted: Nov 10, 2012 11:18:03 AM
.. I don't remember 16c retail gas, because that's what we paid wholesale for gas in the mid 1960's, and sold at 32c... but some stations were in a gas war in the early 1970's and selling for 25.9c around here...
.. I remember both Quaker State oil (first run) and Quaker Maid oil (recycled?)...
.. New oil is about $2 - $3 quart around here... synthetic oil about $4 - $6 quart...
.. I use recycled oil or diesel oil in older design engines with flat tappet cams (all pre-1987 engines), break in newer engines (roller tappet cams) on conventional dinosaur juice oil... and then may switch to synthetic oil at first oil change if available at a reasonable price...
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MIT05
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Message Posted: Nov 9, 2012 6:31:00 PM
I remember, oil is like $5.00 a qt. now.
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chemistr
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Message Posted: Nov 9, 2012 5:33:05 PM
After the Havoline process was developed, most refiners used parafin-base crude for lubricating and asphalt-base crude was used for asphalt, cracked or coke.
[Edited by: chemistr at 11/9/2012 5:35:06 PM EST]
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BuzzLOL
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Message Posted: Nov 9, 2012 3:50:40 PM
"I'm glad they "don't make cars like they used to," Ocean. I would hate to have to go out side to crank up my car to get it started. " -Pithy Opiner
.. Car engines actually had the crank ratchet on the end of the crankshaft until 1950's or 1960's... just in case the battery was dead and no one around to jump off, I suppose...
.. I remember bulk oil in 55 gallon barrels, you hand cranked the pump yourself into a metal pitcher for 25c/quart...
"Lubricant technology has change a lot. Current cars would not last long using the engine oils from the 1950s. " -Chemist74
.. Actually, just the opposite, modern oils lack the lube needed for older flat tappet cams!
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PithyOpiner
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Message Posted: Nov 9, 2012 2:18:09 PM
I'm glad they "don't make cars like they used to," Ocean. I would hate to have to go out side to crank up my car to get it started.
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OceanArcher
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2012 11:08:51 AM
Back in the early 60's, there was a comedian who berated his car every chance he got. His favorite comment to the gas station attendant when he pulled next to the pumps was, "Gas, oil, and water - a gallon of each."
They sure don't make cars like they used to ....
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tnikodem
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2012 10:46:00 AM
Until the advent of synthetic oil, re-refined (i.e. re-used) was considered superior to many other oils. Auto engines supposedly burned off some of the impurities in the oil. When the oil was re-refined all the carbon deposits were removed (supposedly) leaving a superior product.
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tnikodem
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2012 10:39:03 AM
During a "gas war" (how many of us still remember them?) I saw gasoline drop to 19.9¢. That was in th3e early 1970s.
I remember "outrageous" prices from the 1960s (in Alaska). Only one station in town had it at 49.9¢ (still under 50 cents).
I remember prices from my childhood in the 20¢ to 25¢ cent range. Of course, during a "gas war" they temporarily dropped into the teens.
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MrBill1978
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2012 10:11:00 AM
I'm only 68 and I think I remember 18c ethyl at my local Standard station.
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jono0143
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2012 5:49:18 PM
Pithy, as you know, this topic was intended for us seniors. And if we can remember back that far......... even better. (That's ABOUT which I am talking).
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PithyOpiner
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2012 2:38:18 PM
MertieMan, you must be in your 70's to remember gas selling for 18 cents. Time to take it easy. Buy a rocker.
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MertieMan
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2012 10:01:43 AM
I remember all of this and I also remember when gas was .18 cents per gallon. I know prices should have gone up some over the years, but right now we are being totally ripped off and stolen from.
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RallyeRed
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2012 9:48:46 AM
Don't remember prices, but I do go back to the can opener container era mentioned by several others - I think I still have a can in the garage.
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Houckster
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2012 9:14:28 AM
CHEMIST74 writes: Lubricant technology has change a lot. Current cars would not last long using the engine oils from the 1950s.
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Back in the 1950s, nearly all of the contents of a quart can of oil was oil and it was often changed every thousand mile because in the 50s, engines didn't have PCV valves that allow the engine to purge water and combustion byproducts from the oil.
Nowadays with the SN spec, 25-30% of lubricant is additive put there to protect the oil so it can do its job and with PCV values and better built engines, oil change intervals are much greater.
As for recycled oil, I can only speculate that one reason they produced recycled oil was that cars needed a lot more oil per mile than they do now. Most cars, as I mentioned had more frequent oil change intervals and burned about a quart of oil every 500-1000 miles depending on how the engine was broken in. Consequently, the oil produced from the fractioning process was probably insufficient to meet demand.
Nowadays, recycled oil has a much more dubious role to play because cars need so little oil that much more lubricant is produced than is needed by a car. For example, let's say we have a car that gets 25 MPG and has a 5 quart crankcase capacity and the oil is changed every 5K miles. During that time, the car will require 200 gallons of gas.
The fractioning process produces about two quarts of oil per barrel that is used for automotive lubrication. The gasoline yield from a barrel of crude is about 20 gallons so about 10 barrels of oil are needed to produce the gasoline the car will need and 20 quarts of lubricating oil will be produced when only 5 replacement quarts are needed.
So who really needs recycled oil?
As for Zerolene we have this from the ChroniclingAmerica website:
Zerolene - The standard for motor cars
The Popular Motor Oil
More Zerolene is used for automobiles on the Pacific Coast than all other oils combined.
Leading motor car distributors praise Zerolene correctly refined from selected California asphalt-base crude because it maintains its lubricating body at cylinder heat and gives perfect lubrication with less wear and less carbon deposit. Get our lubrication chart showing the correct consistancy for your car.
Standard Oil Company (California)
Further we have this on Zerolene:
Another kind of milestone occurred in 1906 when the San Francisco earthquake brought havoc to much of the Bay Area. The refinery incurred relatively limited damage, which included the collapse of several brick chimneys, the shattering of a fire wall, the springing of some tank seams, and the snapping of a wharf line.
In 1907, the refinery made a particularly important contribution to Standard Oil Co. (California), which had taken over PCO's operations a year earlier, when it developed Zerolene motor oil. Howard French, an early refinery employee, recalled his part in the original formulation of Zerolene, saying: "I'd watch a batch of it the way a chef watches soup, and somehow I'd know when it was just right. Everybody said, 'You can't do this or that with California crude.' But whatever it was you couldn't do, we did it. That was great oil!" Also known as Polarine, Zerolene oil soon achieved market success from the United States to China and other parts of the Far East where it was marketed.
The refinery's early years yielded steady growth. One important contributor to its growth was the ready availability of crude oil from the Southern California fields. The refinery's access to plentiful crude grew during the 1910s with the development of the Midway field and others in the San Joaquin Valley.
By 1906, Richmond was one of the largest refineries in the world, as crude runs rose to an average of about 25,000 barrels a day. By 1914, as the world was on the brink of war, the output had reached 65,000 barrels a day.
[Edited by: Houckster at 9/27/2012 9:24:05 AM EST]
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twt
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2012 9:10:16 AM
Yes, I remember when gas was 16.9 cents a gallon. Cigarettes were 18 cents a pack.
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EdPG
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2012 9:03:36 AM
yes I remember & Gasoline was 16.9 cents/gal.
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ricebike
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Message Posted: Sep 27, 2012 1:20:58 AM
sounds like valvoline's nexgen oil...
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brerrabbitTX
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Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 10:28:14 PM
Whitewinged dove hunting in South Texas in the seventies we had a guy check the oil in my Father's 66 Chevy pickup and fill the tank. He put in $8.00 of gas and when my Father asked what he owed the guy said $8.27. My Father had told him to put the cheapest oil in if it needed it. When my Father asked about the oik the guy showed him the can of recycled oil. It cost 25 cents a quart plus tax.
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FuelPump
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Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 9:20:13 PM
Oiling dirt roads was fairly common in the fifies. It was considered a good use for all that old oil. Todays EPA certainly wouldn't agreee today!
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jscdig
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Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 7:33:50 PM
I consider myself to be a "young" senior, but I remember pretty much all you guys are talking about. I went through a time of changing my own oil and remember buying a "spout" to use on oil cans - and that would have been in the late 60's. The other thing we used to do - my uncle had a camp on a dirt road. He used to get used oil from the company he worked for and every summer he'd bring a couple of 40 gallon barrels of it and we'd spread it on the dirt road to keep the dust down. We did that for years.
[Edited by: jscdig at 9/26/2012 7:37:27 PM EST]
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Banjoe
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Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 6:22:19 PM
I seem to recall the recycled oil came in screw cap jars or is this just another senior moment?
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maddog768
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Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 5:41:38 PM
My first car was a 56 Chevy with a 6 banger that tapped like crazy. Took a quart with every gas fillup. Paid $250.00 for that car.
JC Whitney sold a special high temp sponge that fit inside the valve cover so that everytime the rocker arms moved, they would squeeze oil out of the sponge. I had to run an oil line into the top of the valve cover because the internal oil passages were blocked.
I would buy oil at "Gummy" Wards (Montgomery Wards)in 5 quart metal cans with a screw top lid. It was less then half the cost of 5 quart cans.
An old guy at the junk yard (my parts supplier for years) told me to un-bolt the breather pipe, pour gasoline in the end and all around it and set in on fire. I did that and this thick tar like gunk ran out the end and it continued to burn for a long time. When it colled and I bolted it back on - my oil usage dropped to half or less.
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Mikey15
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Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 3:47:37 PM
Hate to say I used the cans and oil can piercing funnel when I was a kid working at the gas station.
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BUSSY
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Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 2:38:31 PM
I remember it all to well.
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DerekS
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Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 2:14:02 PM
I remember cans and the need to use a can opener to pierce a triangular hole in the top or use a spout. That was used even to the mid-1980's.
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1OILMAN
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Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 2:13:26 PM
Oh yeah...helped my grandfather and then my dad unload truck load of cases, buckets and drums about once a month. A 400 lb drum was a fight for a 100 lb kid. I was amazed to watch them spin 2 barrels at a time across the floor in the warehouse.
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Ernman
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Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 1:55:08 PM
n...remember oil qt. cans...
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E-Squirrel
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Message Posted: Jun 23, 2012 7:41:42 PM
teebone1234 is old enough to recall cans (not all that old), complete with the one-piece pour spout and opener.
I remember before cans, when the gas station mechanic hand pumped it out of a tank into a re-useable container with a swiveling spout.
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teebone1234
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Message Posted: Jun 22, 2012 7:56:30 PM
I Remember motor oil cans not bottles
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jono0143
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Message Posted: Jun 22, 2012 6:42:20 PM
HeavyDuty cache <I remember my dad always telling me not to use Quaker Made motor oil because it was reclaimed oil. I can't find any reference to the brand online.>
Your dad was probably referring to Quaker State Oil
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