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socrdad

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Message Posted: Aug 12, 2014 9:36:27 AM

I would like to see added to the GB FAQs what a spotter is to do if a station has two fuel pumps one labeled 'Regular' the other labeled 'Super Unlead' but both are actually 87 octane fuel the first being straight unleaded fuel (E0) the other includes ethanol (E10). How should a spotter enter the price(s) for this station? Under which of the GB fuel grades?
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socrdad
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2014 1:20:01 PM

scoutmaster - I've never said that the problem was with the spotter.

The problem is the databases that the spotters (Local vs. New/Visiting) would be drawing their information from (ie. price by octane vs. price by sign) and since the Local spotter has access to both databases (price by octane and price by sign) and the New/Visiting spotters would most likely be getting their prices by sign. Why not just have everyone get the prices from the same database that they both have access to prices by sign? Everyone would then be in theory using the same source for their information.



[Edited by: socrdad at 8/13/2014 1:20:41 PM EST]
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2014 11:48:40 AM

The problem is not who the spotter is - it is how the price is posted on the sign by the station. Issues similar to this exist in many areas, socrdad. If there are no laws governing how a station posts prices on their sign the member posting the price they see on the sign cannot be held liable for mis-posting a price.
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socrdad
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2014 10:37:52 AM

PD, Scoutmaster and TxJeans,

You do hear what you are saying don't you. To have the local spotters post prices based on octane while visitors are excused to post based off of language on the price signs.

And you don't see any problems with that?
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Jizme
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2014 9:07:56 AM

This is not that hard to figure out and you don't have to be a genius. This is a case for Bill and here's your sign as it is listed on the sign as plus or super. It does not have anything to do with the octane in my thoughts as they are not listed on the signs. The fuel with no ethanol (E0) is regular and the fuel with the ethanol (E10) is the super or plus. This is the same as it always has been and the only thing that has changed is the octane levels. I think someone would be rather mad if they were looking for Regular (E0) and it was posted as the cheapest price which is the Regular (E10) or the other way around. I know there are a lot of people that don't like the E10 fuel but I use the E10 fuel and have been for 12 years with no problems and it is usually the lower price and it would be more difficult to find it if people post it as Regular (E0).
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2014 7:43:34 AM

<<<would probably continue on post prices as you do normally off of the sign correct?>>>

Um, yes, as most folks post from the signs as folks rarely pull in to each and every station they report - daily.

If you feel the signs need to be more clear, take that up with the station owner and your local regulatory authorities.

There is no way that Gasbuddy can address all the fueling variances in every corner of the country let alone all the pricing variances at the street sign or the pump.

You might start a topic in your local forum about local pricing and start a discussion locally. If enough folks have valid input and can clean up the discussion to put some clear and concise local knowledge, maybe it can then be made a sticky for your local forum.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2014 7:09:58 AM

The member posting from their app while driving by a station in Nebraska can't be held accountable for the station not putting the octane level on the street sign. They are posting what they see! The issue is with the station, not the member.
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socrdad
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Message Posted: Aug 12, 2014 1:02:47 PM

You are correct it would be a rather infrequently asked question unless you are in central US.

I used to think as you do until I came to realize it was a losing battle.

You see there are people traveling all the time going from wherever they were on to some place important passing through with their mobile app in hand happy to help out in any way they can.

Until I put this situation up you probably had no idea this occurs in Nebraska and would probably continue on post prices as you do normally off of the sign correct? Are you starting to see what's happening here? Octane values are not normally listed on price signs only fuel grade labels. The same holds true to a new spotter who just downloaded the GB app on their new smartphone. Not a clue of the octane values only the fuel labels as they hurriedly capture as many prices as possible as they traverse around town. Then leave because they can't figure out why no one records prices correctly on this site.

And the final kicker is that some other area stations have both an 87 and 89 octane fuels labeled Regular and Plus as you would expect would translate nicely into Regular and Midgrade in GB lingo.

[Edited by: socrdad at 8/12/2014 1:10:38 PM EST]
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PD
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Message Posted: Aug 12, 2014 12:52:19 PM

Post the E10 price, as generally a significant portion of gasoline sold is blended with ethanol. E0 is generally 87 octane in your area, and midgrade (89) is really regular 87 blended with 10% ethanol.

Midgrade is really regular, and I would not report E0, as most stations are starting to offer all grades with ethanol, so this problem should go away soon.

[Edited by: PD at 8/12/2014 12:53:09 PM EST]
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Aug 12, 2014 12:47:50 PM

I agree with Scrap as the MODS have said they really don't support E0 at this time.
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Message Posted: Aug 12, 2014 10:34:36 AM

That seems to be a rather infrequently asked question.

I think I'd post the cheaper one as regular and not post the other at all.
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