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thekatd

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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2014 11:47:29 PM

How do we post articles on gasbuddy?
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EZExit
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Message Posted: Sep 25, 2014 2:47:33 PM

I understand that they have taken away the abilities of some of the clique members to post into threads and white boards, why not take away their ability to manipulate the news section too?
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2014 7:17:39 AM

Why not change the news articles that appear on the front page to the most recent posted and update it every hour? Drop the voting altogether!



[Edited by: scoutmaster at 9/18/2014 7:17:57 AM EST]
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Byte_Doctor
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2014 7:17:06 AM

"It's easy to filter out duplicate IP addresses, so it would be non-trivial to overcome that hurdle."

I think you meant that it would be trivial to overcome since it is so easy to filter duplicate IP addresses - and I agree. But it would require them to do work, whereas leaving it as-is is so much easier - and since it is only a small group of the membership that complain, they have no incentive to change the status quo.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2014 6:24:42 AM

"Plus, the number of clique members is a drop in the bucket compared to the total number of members who visit the site daily. "

I think a lot of folks don't vote/submit because of the midnight gaming and have left newsville. And, I suspect that a lot of the voting is based on if it has already made the top "5". Once articles get ahead in votes, there are those that follow the pack. They could change the vote to like and just not publicly tally the likes but have the data.
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EZExit
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2014 2:02:16 AM

Charging a cell phone with urine.... Really?
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bytebug
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2014 1:07:28 AM

>> With the ease of creating multiple accounts

It's easy to filter out duplicate IP addresses, so it would be non-trivial to overcome that hurdle. Plus, the number of clique members is a drop in the bucket compared to the total number of members who visit the site daily.
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GoGoGoodyear
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2014 12:56:36 AM

>> I've long advocated having the articles ranked by the frequency with which they are viewed. <<

With the ease of creating multiple accounts this could be gamed by the newsville clique just as easily as a direct vote.

Getting rid of voting would return some order to the news section. Getting rid of points would make it worth visiting again for discussion.

This may never happen however, because what news articles we choose to read and which topics garner the most votes are all bits of sales data about us that can be monetized.
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EZExit
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2014 12:30:44 AM

I have long advocated that the site management post the news articles. Every day, they could simply hand pick the most pertinent news articles submitted from the membership and place them prominently. No voting, no syndicate operations, no nonsense from people with multiple sock puppet accounts, and the best part, it would take virtually no effort to implement.

Why they don't shut down these troublemakers, or at least give them a warning and a timeout, is beyond my comprehension. There must be something to blind revenue generation, that is the only reasonable explanation that I can see.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2014 6:39:36 AM

Why rank news articles at all? It really serves no purpose.
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Loree71
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2014 3:21:51 AM

Personally, I think they should eliminate points for reading the articles entirely. Thay can still show them for people who actually read them, but instead of giving the 125 points for readking, they should just add those points back into points for another gas price. Or not, since they are giving bonus points now anyway.
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bytebug
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2014 3:16:02 AM

I've long advocated having the articles ranked by the frequency with which they are viewed.
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jrsva
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2014 1:02:31 AM

By far the best solution to the syndicate controlling Newsville would be to totally eliminate the voting. Post links to the two latest GB Blogs on the Home page, followed by a link to All Recent News, from whence members could select any of the numerous articles for reading or point gathering. That would eliminate whatever incentive for mischief there is with the current “system.”
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rivers
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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2014 12:40:42 AM

I was totally unaware of the pumping going on, until I posted a relevant news story. Later on that day, I found a w/b msg stating: I pumped your article like I do all my friends. I have not posted an article since then.
Recently, I've been reading w/b msgs due to an unrelated occurrence and found many msgs through-out of 2x pumps.

IMO the Mods should: Rotate the stories and remove the voting. Then the childish games would cease to exist!!

EZExit <<<<< I miss the way it used to be, where GasBuddy staff would post the articles, and the news section was a center for discussion instead of a dog and pony show for the most conceited members to get their name on the front page.
Agreed!!! Thanks for the F5 tip!

It's a shame really that the news is being controlled by a syndicate. Why don't they put their free time into something more useful for all the site members?

[Edited by: rivers at 9/17/2014 12:42:45 AM EST]
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MadFueler
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Message Posted: Sep 16, 2014 8:20:57 PM

An interesting idea, SUVFan, but how about this: Move the article pumping button next to the article itself and off the list. I know I've pumped several articles that looked like they were on interesting topics, but then found insubstantial writing, broken links, that the headline was misleading, and so forth. Being better able to vote after reading it without backtracking (even to a separate tab), or to rescind my previous vote would IMO be helpful.
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SUVFan
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2014 3:32:51 PM

To TxJeans list of suggestions to fix Newsville, I add my personal favorite, which is to make the all of the links in the home page 5 go straight to Newsville, where they can scroll through all of the articles. That would bring a ton of traffic to the area where the voting buttons are available.

When my tenure here started, there were usually only 3 new articles on any given day, so 2 stories were re-runs. There may have been a recent articles area but I didn't find it until after members could submit stories. That was an improvement in my opinion because we had fresh stories on weekends and a full complement of 5 new stories every day.

Abuse followed, changes have been made, but there's still much to do.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2014 8:11:27 AM

Probably so at this point as too many others have abandoned the newsville.
Limiting or removing pumps and just link out to the news would probably be best.

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Scrapheap
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2014 8:08:22 AM

Having the ability to both vote up and vote down stories would simply give the clique another means of manipulating Newsville.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2014 7:53:59 AM

PD has been more active pulling some of the stories lately.

Some of the clique have been complaining that they were having articles pulled.

There are some of the clique that have threatened others about pumping those not in the clique, and there have been a big ongoing fight from part of the clique with at least 2 members getting their WB posting restricted, and then they apparently started posting comments on others pics. That fight was recently brought to the TBTU in one of the threads bumped from long ago about CD.

You also see them soliciting pumps and stating that they pumped 2x. I know that some put more than 2 articles up a day, so this could be pumping 2 stories or pumping from duplicate IDs. I justs started seeing the 2x lately, so don't know if this is some new thing the clique has started.

I think there are a limited number posting articles because the PUMP-IT group have driven off others.

Some suggestions:
Hide the name of the poster of the story (on the front page at least)
Rotate the stories and remove the voting
Allow voting up AND down stories
Limit the number of news you can pump in a day
Actually close duplicate accounts

They might have less email in their box to deal with if they shut some of these folks off and then put their emails on spam filter.
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EZExit
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2014 12:45:51 AM

ByteBug: <<<"And seeing how many "votes" those irrelevant stories get is disappointing.">>>

--Yes, that is the part of being inside the news section "clique" that bears fruit for them. Once the golden hour of midnight EST passes, there is first the onslaught of new "news". Within minutes, the Chosen Ones receive their 25-30 vote handicap, and another day dawns. :::shrug:::
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bytebug
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2014 12:22:09 AM

>> seeing how irrelevant some the stories posted are to the subject matter of this website

And seeing how many "votes" those irrelevant stories get is disappointing. It would be nice if TPTB reign back in some of the abuse that is now taking place.
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EZExit
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Message Posted: Sep 12, 2014 12:11:55 AM

TxJeans: <<<"I don't get why they let these duplicates screen names exist. I know buddies that have been given grief because they were both posting from the same work PC and were threatened with being banned, but some of these don't even hide that they are running duplicate screen names.">>>

--I know they have the technology to figure this out, I just don't understand why they tolerate this.

ByteBug: <<<"I've long ago stopped caring about the news section. I simply poke the first link each day and then repeatedly hit F5 to max out the points. The news stopped being news when the mods quit moderating which articles were appropriate.">>>

--Agreed, and I thank you for the F5 tip, I had added that to my protocol when you had voiced that available option years ago in a similar thread. The only value left to the news section is entertainment value, seeing how irrelevant some the stories posted are to the subject matter of this website.
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bytebug
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Message Posted: Sep 11, 2014 8:09:11 PM

>> you must befriend one or more of the people with multiple accounts that control the
>> home page news section

I've long ago stopped caring about the news section. I simply poke the first link each day and then repeatedly hit F5 to max out the points. The news stopped being news when the mods quit moderating which articles were appropriate.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Sep 10, 2014 9:11:44 PM

EZ: "especially when some of the disgruntled people are some of the ones with numerous screen names that they post and vote their articles up with."

I don't get why they let these duplicates screen names exist. I know buddies that have been given grief because they were both posting from the same work PC and were threatened with being banned, but some of these don't even hide that they are running duplicate screen names.
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EZExit
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Message Posted: Sep 10, 2014 6:10:08 PM

TxJeans, I saw the feud, and it is amusing indeed, especially when some of the disgruntled people are some of the ones with numerous screen names that they post and vote their articles up with. Additionally, the articles they post and then manipulate over everyone else's are often removed because they aren't even close to meeting article guidelines.

I used to post and discuss the topics actively, but the pleasure is gone now. I miss the way it used to be, where GasBuddy staff would post the articles, and the news section was a center for discussion instead of a dog and pony show for the most conceited members to get their name on the front page.

Other than the deletion of some articles that don't meet site guidelines, the news section is an unwatched train wreck. F-5 five times daily is my motto...I am glad that you are yet another member that sees this, and that it's not just me.

thekatd, were you able to curry favor with the syndicate that controls this website's news? Or did you decide to just sit it out like the rest of us?
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Aug 14, 2014 7:45:44 AM

EZExit - agreed.
Maybe ability to vote up and vote down...and limit the number of votes a person can make in 24 hours would help break the hold of the clique.

Apparently some of them have had their WB posting curtailed.
And, apparently one got a ban for a few days from posting news but today posted a UK green story.

They even post on the MODS boards saying they pumped their stories and asking them to pump theirs....

Just check a few of their whiteboards. And, apparently there are some "feuds" going on at the fringes of the clique.
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EZExit
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Message Posted: Aug 14, 2014 1:36:45 AM

If you want your article located on the home page prominently, you must befriend one or more of the people with multiple accounts that control the home page news section. They will vote up the article numerous times to insure that it stays there, that is, if you are able to gain their favor. I hope this helps.
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SUVFan
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Message Posted: Aug 10, 2014 2:29:26 PM

Submission guidelines are accessible at the link jrsva posted below.

PDs Newsville Guidelines sticky thread is also worth reviewing. PD recently announced that he would be doing some housecleaning in Newsville, again, and I've seen some articles go away.

Another way to get to the submit news link is to use the "back to news" button below the link to the actual story on every gb news page. A submit news button will be one of three at the top of the linked page.
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jrsva
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2014 1:14:33 AM


Go to the Home page and scroll down the left column to GasBuddy Blog & News. Immediately below the list of five articles, click on the link Submit News.
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