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GoGoGoodyear

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Message Posted: Jul 12, 2014 6:49:45 AM

I know this would normally be posted in a local metro area discussion forum but might not be seen by as many members, and this may signal a change in Costco corporate policy across all their market areas.

Basically after coming across repeated diesel price updates at Costco, which we know traditionally does not sell diesel (or mid grade) and lately diesel prices posted by GB Direct, I called two Costco stores in California that have current diesel prices posted by GB Direct before reporting the prices as abuse.

An employee at one Costco confirmed that they have been selling diesel for some time; an employee at another Costco stated they are in the process of installing diesel pumps and will begin selling in a week or two.

Costco
3800 Rosedale Hwy & Camino Del Rio Ct
Bakersfield - North, CA 93308-6235
MSL ID #23732

Costco
26610 Ynez Rd & Promenade Mall S
Temecula, CA 92591-4697
MSL ID #5375
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Aug 27, 2014 10:42:07 AM

"The Sams locally that I'm familiar with has much more prominent signage and the price is easily spotted driving by."

Around me, Sam's signage is very similar to Costco.
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GrumpyCat
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Message Posted: Aug 27, 2014 10:31:31 AM

"The Sams locally that I'm familiar with has much more prominent signage and the price is easily spotted driving by. "

The opposite is true around here. Sam's Club posts prices on a ground level (about 3' high) portable sign by the front door at the far end of the parking lot from the fuel pumps.

Costco posts prices on the posts holding the canopy over their pumps.

So around here the surest way to know Sam's prices before pulling up to a pump is GasBuddy.com.

Oh, and neither has diesel.

[Edited by: GrumpyCat at 8/27/2014 10:32:54 AM EST]
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SUVFan
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2014 5:07:50 PM

I managed to snap a photo of the small curb signage when I visited the Costco near Easton in Columbus recently. There are actually 3 such signs -- in addition to the one pictured at the corner, they have another near a second entrance from the street that is even more obscure, as well as a sign near the entrance to the main store.

The size and placement might have to do with cost control, scoutmaster. It might also be a form of traffic control.

The Sams locally that I'm familiar with has much more prominent signage and the price is easily spotted driving by.


[Edited by: SUVFan at 8/26/2014 5:08:14 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Jul 24, 2014 6:58:11 AM

I think most people know that Costco, BJ's and Sam's are member only places. I'd bet the reason these places don't have more prominent signs is to keep cost down not because "everybody and their brother without membership would be driving up, getting upset and not being able to buy, and causing a mess, traffic-wise."

[Edited by: scoutmaster at 7/24/2014 6:58:28 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 10:16:02 PM

Both Columbus Costco stations have the small, portable, manual signs placed exactly as described by CampKohler. You can't see them from the street. Often their price is among the lowest posted on the site's local bargain board.

I spoke with their attendant fairly recently on such a day, and he explained that a remote office sets the price, aiming to be the lowest in a 5 mile radius. So if they had a more prominent sign, they might get a lot of blow back from non members attracted by the low price. Traffic jams, too, as they have a one way approach to all pumps, and I'm sure non members would try to pull in the wrong way to an open pump on the side of their fuel door.

The stations are open only during store hours and the signs are removed when the store is closed. The pumps are shut off. So prices posted for Costco at times the store is closed were not spotted by the member at that time.
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 9:55:22 PM

Ziyulu wrote "But I thought even if the gas station is closed, you can still pump gas if you have a credit card?" As Scrapheap wrote, it does vary by municipality; some areas, including parts of northern Florida, allow a station to remain open provided there's safety features that can preclude fires or other safety/environmental concerns. In addition, (I've read) some areas require remote cameras or sensing devices to monitor stations in the event of safety or security problems if they're operated unattended. Other locations prohibit the station from operating a fuel dispensing station without an on-site attendant (who doesn't necessarily have to be adjacent to the dispenser but rather on-site (similar to a somewhat distant cashier).

As for CampKohler's comment "At Sacto Costcos, they usually have a small unlighted sign at the entrance to the store which can be seen if you drive near enough (too far from the public road to be seen)...Another factor is that if they DID have a sign, everybody and their brother without membership would be driving up, getting upset and not being able to buy, and causing a mess, traffic-wise.", most Costco stations (as well as Sam's Club and BJ's Warehouse (which require membership) have easily seen price signs, and I have never seen (to use CampKohler's words) everybody and their brother driving up and getting upset because they weren't able to buy gas at a membership-required facility. Some of the member stations do have a visible price sign during dark, non-open hours; some have a light; it varies.




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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 9:34:04 PM

Fur: At Sacto Costcos, they usually have a small unlighted sign at the entrance to the store which can be seen if you drive near enough (too far from the public road to be seen). They are not required to have normal signage, because they don't sell to the public and are thus exempt. This saves the whopping cost of the signage, and I think they are just depending on people assuming that the prices will be the lowest (which they are not always). Another factor is that if they DID have a sign, everybody and their brother without membership would be driving up, getting upset and not being able to buy, and causing a mess, traffic-wise.
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 12:23:24 PM

"But I thought even if the gas station is closed, you can still pump gas if you have a credit card?"

There are stations I know of in Alabama and Tennessee where the pumps are on 24 hours/day whether there is an attendant or not. Haven't checked lately (haven't been out at midnight Sunday/Monday morning of late) one is on a major 4 or 5 lane divided highway in Madison, AL. A busy road which is a virtual parking lot during rush hours.
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 11:42:34 AM

Ziyulu wrote > But I thought even if the gas station is closed, you can still pump gas if you have a credit card?

I think this varies by state/province and station features. I read that there are stations in remote parts of Canada that have no attendant whatsoever. These stations only take credit cards. They also have automatice fire suppression systems, which seems to be a key issue.
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 11:18:22 AM

"But I thought even if the gas station is closed, you can still pump gas if you have a credit card? "

I imagine that varies from state to state. Some states require the pumps to be attended so in those states you could not do that.
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GoGoGoodyear
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 8:35:20 AM

The Costco stores and gas stations I have been to in the Los Angeles and surrounding areas all had gas prices on a roughly 3 foot high sign standing on the ground in front of the pump isles and another similar sign on the ground either just outside or just inside the main store entrance doors. None of the Costco stores I have seen have a pylon sign or sign on a pole like a regular gas station.

It seems the signs at the main entrance are brought in when the store closes, and the other signs are put away when the gas station closes, so I agree it's suspicious to see Costco prices posted after 9 PM or so, unless it's posted by a Costco employee since they stay after closing to stock shelves and unload delivery trucks.

Edit: the gas stations have operating hours and an attendant, and when closed the pumps do not operate.


[Edited by: GoGoGoodyear at 7/23/2014 8:36:46 AM EST]
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ziyulu
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 8:32:10 AM

But I thought even if the gas station is closed, you can still pump gas if you have a credit card?
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 7:33:24 AM

<I can't remember a Costco anywhere in the country...where Costco doesn't have a sign with the price visible before pulling up to the pump.>

The couple of Costco's I buy gas from here in Orange County has no signs. You only know the price by looking at the gas pumps. This isn't an issue normally, since Costco's price is always lower than any of the other local stations."

I see something similar in my area. Although they have a sign, it is one of those small portable metal signs that is places in front of the gas pump lanes. When they close, the small sign with the price gets taken from in front of the gas lanes and is put away for the night and the pumps turned off so there is no way to know what the price is / was after-hours.
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Message Posted: Jul 23, 2014 7:05:26 AM

"It really doesn't make sense to see someone posting a price for Costco at 3 in the morning when the station is closed!"

Why? Not all stations are open 24 hours.
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2014 11:40:10 PM

<I can't remember a Costco anywhere in the country...where Costco doesn't have a sign with the price visible before pulling up to the pump.>

The couple of Costco's I buy gas from here in Orange County has no signs. You only know the price by looking at the gas pumps. This isn't an issue normally, since Costco's price is always lower than any of the other local stations.

<it doesn't make sense to see someone posting a price for any gas station when the station is closed>

The reason I bring this up for Costco is because of the lack of a sign. Since the gas pumps are turned off at night, I'm not sure how someone visiting the station when closed can possibly know what the price of gas is. And from observation, it appears that most price changes are done when they turn on the pumps in the morning.
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2014 10:27:40 PM

Echoing GB, it seems to be standard in DC/MD/VA that Costcos have a 3 foot price board in front of the pump lanes (but not on a pole) and in the store lobby that lists today's price (i.e. all day, no hikes), as I would want to know the price before waiting in line, just like any other product.

Maybe CA has a prohibition on signage?
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2014 9:27:58 PM

"I'm curious how Costco differs around the country. Do any of their gas stations post the price on signs?"

I can't remember a Costco anywhere in the country, and I've recently made several round trips from Maryland to Florida and to the Arizona/New Mexico area,, where Costco doesn't have a sign with the price visible before pulling up to the pump. Same with BJ's Warehouse and Sam's Club gas stations. I imageine, if anything, that it would be a good advertisement for Costco membership if a driver saw a Costco price lower than the nearby competition but it's possible that local laws restrict the publicizing/advertising of "member only" facilities.

"It really doesn't make sense to see someone posting a price for Costco at 3 in the morning when the station is closed!"

By that standard, it doesn't make sense to see someone posting a price for any gas station when the station is closed. But just because a gas station is closed when the Gas Buddy member posted the price doesn't mean the price is invalid, just that the Costco gas station is closed until regular store hours, just like any other business that advertises during the hours the business is closed.
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2014 9:05:30 PM

I'm curious how Costco differs around the country. Do any of their gas stations post the price on signs? Around here, the price is only displayed on the gas pumps, so anyone posting a price for Costco either has driven into the station (and there are almost always lines), or they are copying someone else's price posts. It really doesn't make sense to see someone posting a price for Costco at 3 in the morning when the station is closed!
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Message Posted: Jul 22, 2014 6:56:18 PM

didn't know that
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2014 6:25:51 AM

Some BJs sell diesel as well

BJ's
950 Ridge Rd
Webster , NY 14580

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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2014 12:04:58 AM

I assume neither sell midgrade because it's simply a blend done at the pump of regular and super.
Do warehouse clubs save money offering 1 less option? No idea, but if someone really wants midgrade, they could make their own, pump 5 gal reg and 5 gal super.

[Edited by: RodOrRob at 7/15/2014 12:07:39 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Jul 14, 2014 7:32:54 AM

No z I said "have never carried mid-grade". Could they in the future? I guess it is possible.
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GoGoGoodyear
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Message Posted: Jul 13, 2014 11:59:43 PM

ziyulu,
Who said "will never carry midgrade" (as in the future)?

I said "we know traditionally does not sell diesel (or mid grade)".

Scout said "none sell mid-grade" and "have never carried mid-grade" (as in past tense).

I will try to reach Costco management this week and see if I can get a direct answer so we know what to look forward to. Meanwhile I have no reason to think the 2 stores I mentioned don't really have diesel, since an employee at each store confirmed they do.
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Message Posted: Jul 13, 2014 6:38:39 PM

GB: If the OP is correct, then Costco's FAQs appear to be as behind-the-times as (ahem) some other organizations we know. :-)
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Message Posted: Jul 13, 2014 8:34:10 AM

But you're saying that Costcos will never carry mid-grade fuel. How can you predict the future?
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GoGoGoodyear
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Message Posted: Jul 13, 2014 12:09:02 AM

I saw that on their web site, maybe they haven't yet updated the web site. A search for the word 'diesel' on Costco's web site also turns up -0- references.

Something else to muddy the waters:

A: The Gas Station is open to Costco members only. There is an exception: Costco Cash Card customers do not need to be Costco members.

(but a member has to buy the Costco Cash Card to begin with)

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CK,
> *It would be interesting to know if the stations in the OP
• installed a new tank
• replaced an obsolete tank
• re-opened a usable closed-down tank. <

I doubt most employees could answer that correctly. I would bet that due to strict EPA regulations an old unused tank wouldn't be allowed to remain in the ground. Of the few Costco stores I've been to none was built on the site of a previous gas station.
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Message Posted: Jul 12, 2014 9:54:17 PM

According to Costco, as of this evening:

Q: What products do you sell?
A: Regular Unleaded (typically 87 octane) and Premium Unleaded (typically 91 octane). Octane requirements can vary by state.

Costco questions and answers
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jul 12, 2014 8:46:11 PM

Anyone reporting a mid-grade price for Sam's Club and Costco is mis-reporting. Nothing needs to be verified since these stations have never carried mid-grade.
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Message Posted: Jul 12, 2014 3:34:18 PM

"You can see a lot just by observing." --- Yogi Berra (maybe)

This topic is a service to us as we now know to keep our eyes open for the new fuel. The latter must start with massive digging to install a tank, unless the fuel was once sold at the location and later discontinued, but a quick count of the filler pipe covers in the station pad will reveal that.* If a there are enough fillers to include diesel, you could ask if it is coming to that station.

A link to this topic placed in a new topic on every site's Local Discussion category (like this) would be in order. Periodically bump it for a while to keep it visible on the first page if you have a lot of traffic in the category.

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*It would be interesting to know if the stations in the OP
• installed a new tank
• replaced an obsolete tank
• re-opened a usable closed-down tank.

[Edited by: CampKohler at 7/12/2014 3:39:45 PM EST]
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ziyulu
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Message Posted: Jul 12, 2014 2:01:39 PM

People should not accuse anyone of mis-reporting without verifying the price first.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jul 12, 2014 6:57:36 AM

Yes some Costco's do have diesel. So do some Sam's Clubs. But none sell mid-grade.
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