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windrifter

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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2014 8:18:41 AM

A member reported this morning around 7:30 AM that ALL Waterloo, Ontario stations had regular gas at 140.9. It is not possible to report on all stations at the same time. This is electronic vandalism and needs to be addressed quickly.
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shadoee
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2014 7:59:42 AM

Yes it is
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Aug 14, 2014 7:57:38 AM

Hi PD,
Do you want the info posted here or PM'd? You didn't really say initially but used the word POST in your first response and indicated you looked through the thread.

I would assume it would be better to do by PM or contact us than putting names out in public, but folks that are not "buddies" can't PM you directly and can only use the "Contact Us" or the "GBModerator" for their local site (who exactly does that go to? A specific mod for a site or a group bin, or a specific mod for all GBO?).

What is the preferred way to report? I know your profile says moderator as title, but you indicate not a mod in your "My Job". I realize you must wear many hats and Analyst is primary, so let us know how best to address issues with least strain on your system and your workload.

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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2014 10:46:06 AM

Maddog- I investigated the user that you reported to me. Thank you for bringing it to our attention.

As TxJeans says- I at least need a user name, sometimes I'll need specifics, but sometimes I can look without details just at a user and get good information on what's going on.
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Message Posted: Aug 12, 2014 12:24:28 PM

Please post user names and not just "member". It's difficult to get to the root of the problem when we receive vague details. I just scanned the thread to look and no other information was given, so it makes it hard to rectify the problem.
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2014 9:37:50 PM

Or maybe we should do what is even better! PM the moderators when you see members posting bogus prices!
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2014 9:32:55 PM

Maybe we should stop arguing in this thread and only post the info according to PD's post:

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Message Posted: Aug 12, 2014 12:24:28 PM

Please post user names and not just "member". It's difficult to get to the root of the problem when we receive vague details. I just scanned the thread to look and no other information was given, so it makes it hard to rectify the problem.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2014 9:06:40 PM

Yup MadFueler, we will have to agree to disagree. I don't think you can label someone that way based on the way they post prices on a gas site. Doing so is the definition of "Armchair Psychology".
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MadFueler
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2014 7:30:55 PM

scoutmaster: "You understand that, TxJeans, but I don't think MadFueler does."

I'm well aware of that capability to report several stations simultaneously, but I thought I and my colleague maddog57 made the point that that wasn't what was going on here. I'll PM you with more detail so the discussion doesn't get derailed.

"And claiming they have a disorderly mind is totally wrong."

That was the most courteous and civil way I could give my assessment of this person and their behavior and still get the concept across. Perhaps we'll just have to 'agree to disagree' on that, but I stand by both my assessment and my verbiage.
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maddog57
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2014 6:55:18 PM

Oh it is possible to report them all at the same time, but it's not possible to see them all at the same time, except if one posts stations without ever seeing the prices...which is what was happening.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2014 5:39:54 PM

You understand that, TxJeans, but I don't think MadFueler does. And the point of the OP was "It is not possible to report on all stations at the same time." which is not true.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2014 1:50:35 PM


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PD has posted what he needs. Let us stop discussing amongst ourselves about a poster (or what constitutes abuse) and go back to just using this thread to post specifics for PD as he requested.
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Scout, You have made your point about the ability to post a bunch of prices with one price stamp. Doing that for large blocks that cover hours of time is something that can be done, but users should be either posting the time as the start of the "collection" or break it into "time stamp periods". Point made. But, you constantly take threads and take them into back and forth losing the initial content of the thread.
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Back to PD and any other reports of abusive posting.
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PD
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2014 10:46:06 AM

Maddog- I investigated the user that you reported to me. Thank you for bringing it to our attention.

As TxJeans says- I at least need a user name, sometimes I'll need specifics, but sometimes I can look without details just at a user and get good information on what's going on.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2014 7:54:16 AM

Then continue to report bgfistler, but if all the prices are posted at the same time, there is no way to know the order they were posted or what method (app, full site, FSL) was used to post them. And claiming they have a disorderly mind is totally wrong.
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maddog57
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2014 7:40:12 AM

The person in question will spam posts to a group of stations, but they will not be in any order that you could drive without going forward and backwards. Say the stations are ordered on the street 1,2,3,4,5,6. They will post 3,5,1,6,2,4 or some other order. We have photographic evidence of them posting bogus prices...not once, not twice but four times. We took photos of the price boards at stations where the prices had changed. We quickly posted them to this site...then when bgfistler posted their bogus prices we quickly took photos again of the price boards,and posted those photos. One station this user posted bogus prices for three straight days. This user was warned back in April and I received a note to report any bogus prices at that time. When prices were stable their spamming prices didn't matter. But in the last few week when prices have been changing we were able to see the depth of their spamming. The other day they posted two prices at the same time...the two stations were across town from each other.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2014 7:37:00 AM

Maybe we should stop arguing in this thread and only post the info according to PD's posts:

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Message Posted: Aug 12, 2014 12:24:28 PM

Please post user names and not just "member". It's difficult to get to the root of the problem when we receive vague details. I just scanned the thread to look and no other information was given, so it makes it hard to rectify the problem.

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So, I am guessing since he said he scanned the thread to look and didn't find what he needed - that we should post clear and concise reports with specifics that he can use to investigate and take appropriate action.

Let PD make the determination of if the issue is documented enough and what action to take....not up to Scout or anyone else to determine from snippets of possibly incomplete information because it was spread out over discussion in several posts and one piece taken out of context w/out local knowledge of the area-- or more details had been provided in other means of contact.

It is up to the person reporting to provide enough information for PD now that he is on the topic.

[Edited by: TxJeans at 8/13/2014 7:37:27 AM EST]
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2014 7:04:55 AM

MadFueler,

If this member you are referring to is posting incorrect prices then they should be dealt with. But, if "this user posted prices at the same time as several stations that are clear across town from each other....." how do you know the order is illogical? And a disorderly mind? How can you make that statement if you don't know this member personally? Or do you?

[Edited by: scoutmaster at 8/13/2014 7:05:24 AM EST]
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MadFueler
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2014 12:40:19 AM

scoutmaster and Gas_Buddy: The posting across town part isn't in and of itself the problem, but the way that user to whom maddog57 refers does it is but one of their indications of sloppiness, cheating, and a disorderly mind. These posts aren't appropriately "backdated" to sometime close to the actual spotting time, and are often in an illogical order. The user often uses out-of date prices a well. I have reported this person a couple of times myself. To make things worse, they have supposedly been banned from reporting prices a couple days ago, only to be able to resume this evening. IMO a longer ban was warranted after months of this behavior. Something just isn't right here.
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Message Posted: Aug 12, 2014 1:12:12 PM

I don't know how many "all" in Waterloo, Ontario is but it certainly sounds suspicious.

As for me, I only occasionally post via phone and online I am not going to bend over backwards to set the time to the minute. I generally enter all my prices in my favorites list then set the time to the start of my commute. And often it is hours before I get to a computer to make the entries.
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Message Posted: Aug 12, 2014 12:24:28 PM

Please post user names and not just "member". It's difficult to get to the root of the problem when we receive vague details. I just scanned the thread to look and no other information was given, so it makes it hard to rectify the problem.
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2014 8:53:51 PM

"Tonight this user posted prices at the same time as several stations that are clear across town from each other....."

Not sticking up for anyone, I routinely post prices for stations at the beginning and end of a regular 3-35 mile commute. That said, Gas Buddy moderators, when I contacted them about an entirely different issue, noted that I posted prices that were 20 miles from where I saw the station; I replied that I saw the prices at the start of my commute, that I essentially decided not to stop on the highway as I passed the stations in order to post prices in the immediate vicinity of the station, waiting, instead, until I stopped the car at the end of my commute (minutes from leaving the highway); the moderators haven't responded to my reply (nor to my original issue concerning membership).
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2014 8:34:00 AM

"Tonight this user posted prices at the same time as several stations that are clear across town from each other....."

You do realize it is possible for someone to spot a bunch of prices and post them all at the same time?
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maddog57
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Message Posted: Aug 10, 2014 10:17:40 PM

Tonight this user posted prices at the same time as several stations that are clear across town from each other.....
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maddog57
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Message Posted: Aug 2, 2014 12:10:28 PM

Between myself and one other gasbuddy we have photographic evidence of the spammer...not once, not twice, not even three times, but FOUR times. Plus I've caught this person posting bogus prices almost every day for more than a week. One time I caught them posting an incorrect price at a station three straight days..but they keep spamming prices. Lately what they are doing is after I make my route they post over most of the prices I post.
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MBAcura
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2014 10:17:26 AM

MD57, I sent you a note. :D

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maddog57
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Message Posted: Jul 20, 2014 6:51:07 PM

>>I hope that each time one of you finds wrong prices posted that cannot reasonably be explained as an honest human error that you are not only complaining about it here in the forums but also sending notice to the mods. <<

Actually I only report about 10% of the bogus prices here, but for certain obvious spammers I report them to the mods. If I see some one who usually posts correct prices post a bad one I don't say anything...everyone can make a mistake now and then.

But then again reporting stuff to the mods is probably a waste of time and bandwidth.

[Edited by: maddog57 at 7/20/2014 6:51:39 PM EST]
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jul 20, 2014 6:53:13 AM

I just zeroed a bogus diesel price using the map and it removed it from the site and the app.
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GoGoGoodyear
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Message Posted: Jul 20, 2014 4:06:20 AM

Except now we can't zero out bad prices across the apps and web site anymore so how does that kind of advice help?
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SUVFan
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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2014 11:16:27 PM

The last time I reported a bad price, they wrote back saying that as a senior member, I'm able to zero out prices and that would be the most effective thing to do. They said I could leave a note in the comments about why I did it that only they would see.

I took that to be the equivalent of the old line, "Don't call us; we'll call you."

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GoGoGoodyear
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2014 11:46:11 PM

I hope that each time one of you finds wrong prices posted that cannot reasonably be explained as an honest human error that you are not only complaining about it here in the forums but also sending notice to the mods.

Yes, I know it does not seem to bring any response and nothing seems to be getting done about it, but you MUST leave a detailed paper trail if there is any hope of ever really getting their attention and this problem under control. It's apparent the mods do not peruse these forums much so filling their inbox is about the only other way!

GBO also has a presence on Facebook, and if feedback is allowed there it might get their attention if the wrong price updates are mentioned, especially if the feedback comes from more than a small handful of members.
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maddog57
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2014 3:26:21 PM

Caught bgfistler again posting bogus prices...this time a station where the price changed this morning...they posted the old price from yesterday. They ever noticed I only posted the diesel price and not the regular.... The price changed to 3.41 sometime this morning before 0800 and it was still 3.41 when I drove by it about 5 minutes after they posted.



3.45
CITGO
3890 Glenn Ave & Akron Dr
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bgfistler
16 minutes ago http://www.winstonsalemgasprices.com/CITGO_Gas_Stations/Winston-Salem_-_NE/26909/index.aspx

Another example of them price spamming...
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maddog57
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2014 2:44:44 PM

I've noticed something interesting recently. Every morning when I drive on one of the streets here I post at all 5 stations on the street. Recently very soon after I post this user posts right after I do, within minutes. They post at all five stations. Today I did not post a regular price at the first station and lo and behold this person did not post anything at the first station. At the last station I posted Regular and Plus but not Premium...and they posted all three prices. With prices starting to drop it will be interesting to see what happens.

With prices fluctuating right now this is a good time to catch the spammers in their act. Not that reporting them will do a damn bit of good.... :(
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2014 8:57:19 PM

Points taken; I understand what you're saying. I was just responding to what was (and how it was) written, and not trying to get into the "the person posted in every area of the city" type issue; just the "across town" issue.
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2014 7:27:12 PM

Gas_Buddy:

It's not just that they seem to post from across town. I would think the person maddog57's talking about would at least show an orderly pattern geographically, but they don't - it can be totally random, whipsawing back and forth. That and the out-of-date prices they post during price swings shows clearly that this person deserves no "benefit of the doubt." I personally have written this same person a PM about this also (right before the mods told us to abstain from such things) and they continue to do it.
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maddog57
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2014 7:20:20 PM

Agreed...but this person will post prices that aren't in any logical order near each other, in totally different parts of town, BUT only after someone else (usually myself) has posted prices at the station. If no one has posted any prices that day then they don't post. I've pointed this out to the mods as well. I've purposely not posted at a station and this theory has been confirmed on several occasions. If there are four stations...say 1,2,3,4 (how original right)...and I post at 1,2 and 4 but not 3...then without fail they will only post at 1,2 and 4.
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2014 5:09:22 PM



maddog57:

"I've reported similar issues in our town where someone posted prices clear across town at the same time. This person is a known spammer but the mods refuse to do anything about it. They spammed incorrect prices today as well."

You have to posting prices across town with some perspective. I have a regular commute that's between about 30 and 40 miles (depending which of two destinations I go to, and depending on which route I take) from my starting point. If I "get the lights in my favor", after seeing gas prices near my starting point, I may not stop until I get near gas stations at the end of my drive which across a very large city, or (for lack of a better description) "a city away" from where I started.

It's not unreasonable to expect that people to post prices for diverse areas at one "price posting". Yes, it would be useful if the posters used the "time spotted" option when posting each price, but it's not mandated, nor can it be expected tha you, me, or any one else will use the "time spotted" option every time.

That said, one time when I contacted the moderators about price posting they responded, not answering what I was asking about, but to note that I had posted gas prices 22 miles away from where I was when I posted the prices. I let them know that I posted prices from 20 minutes earlier, near the beginning of my regular commute, and noted that I didn't have an opportunity to stop in the middle of highway traffic to post the price immediately after passing the gas station sign. They never acknowledged that I was posting prices safely, but I do assume they're very conscious about my posting gas prices "clear across town" (your words). The bottom line is that just because prices are post "across town" doesn't necessarily mean that prices weren't actually observed by the member. At least not in all cases.
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2014 3:42:28 PM

There was one station where the price changed and it's in a somewhat bad neighborhood so not many people go there...I just happen to drive by there on my way to work. Well the price changed for Regular but not PLUS or Premium. So I posted only the PLUS and Premium prices. There are two people who usually spam prices at this stretch after I post...neither one posted a price at this station for the rest of the week. This week I started posting Regular prices again and one of them spammed my prices yesterday morning. But alas there is nothing we can do about it. At one time I would post on the person's whiteboard, but the mods got mad at me and have blocked me from posting on any whiteboards. Of course they didn't tell me they did it until I asked why I couldn't post, and then they acted like it was my fault.
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2014 3:27:49 PM

" This person is a known spammer but the mods refuse to do anything about it. "

Lol, I know the feeling. There is a lady in our community who seems to think that all of the stations on two major thoroughfares are 'hers', and her GB Name MUST be on those stations price postings.

So by posting at 'Her' stations she has taken offense at me, and now attempts to overwrite any price I post, at any station in town, most likely via the website (doubt she is traveling along my same route every time). Apparently her level of frustration has grown, because she is now posting all along my commute to work, which is a 15 mile trek, away from our community. Clearly she isn't seeing these prices, or the pumps, and is often posting incorrect prices, presumably just to provide some sort of annoyance to me.

I just post the correct prices again, and report her to the Mods each time she does it. They don't seem to have done anything about it, but then again, she may just not get what they are telling her.

She seems to act like a child, maybe a teenager, who wants to throw a little tantrum, and post random prices. Guess that shows me! LOL!!
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maddog57
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Message Posted: Jul 8, 2014 1:28:59 PM

I've reported similar issues in our town where someone posted prices clear across town at the same time. This person is a known spammer but the mods refuse to do anything about it. They spammed incorrect prices today as well.
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2014 7:27:24 PM

Ah - not exactly...

First, did ALL stations really have 140.9 as the price?

And, how long would it take to gather all the prices in Waterloo (I have no idea what the area is like)?

When bulk posting, you should take the time to time stamp to the EARLIEST observed time for the batch.

Vandalism/sabotage? Maybe not, but sloppy and inconsiderate posting a possibility....or not (depending on if the prices were correct and the time stamp appropriate for what was observed).
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2014 6:41:36 PM

Someone around here does that very thing that is being reported by the OP. My guess, is a PC is being used to do mass updates, which I used to do as well, until going to smart phones for updating. So long as the prices are correct, there is nothing wrong with it, IMO.
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Message Posted: Jun 23, 2014 6:43:24 AM

Got ya jrsva. Thanks for clearing up what you meant.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jun 23, 2014 6:42:31 AM

Well, Byte_Doctor, if you actually read the OP, it states "It is not possible to report on all stations at the same time." This is not true. The OP never stated "It is not possible to spot all the stations at the same time". Big difference.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jun 23, 2014 6:42:13 AM

Thanks for clearing that up SUVFan. I would agree that you should post with the time closest to when you saw the price. I would also agree that if you are posting them all at once, they should all be reported at the time you spotted the 1st price.

There are very few Speedways in PA. There are only four (4) so we haven't seen what is know as "The Speedway Effect" yet.
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Message Posted: Jun 22, 2014 11:48:46 PM

"In short, it is OK to post prices using a time earlier than when you actually spotted them but not later than the actual time."

Scout, please read my comment carefully. Your comment, “You can't future date price posts . . .” is exactly my point. If you spot prices between 0800 and noon (and you do not want to take the time to group them into 30-minute blocks) it is acceptable to post all of them as spotted at 0800 but NOT at 1030 or noon. Earlier is OK but later is not.

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Byte_Doctor
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Message Posted: Jun 22, 2014 10:44:51 PM

The former scoutmaster posted on Jun 22, 2014 5:31:03 PM: "I never said you could spot all the Waterloo, Ontario at the same time."

I don't see how you could interpret your reply to SUVFan any other way:

Posted: Jun 21, 2014 8:13:05 PM by SUVFan:
"Yes. Read the OP. The OP is saying that it's not possible to have spotted all the posted prices at the same time. Everything flows from that assertion."

Posted: Jun 22, 2014 7:30:27 PM by scoutmaster:
"The OP is wrong so you are working from an incorrect assertion SUVFan which would make your statements incorrect as well."
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Message Posted: Jun 22, 2014 10:30:39 PM

>If you saw 10 stations 15 minutes apart, SUVFan is stating they should be posted from a PC one at at time. Is that correct SUVFan<

No. I'm saying nothing of the sort!

I'm saying prices should be grouped within the 15/30 minute intervals provided by the drop down menu opposite "Time spotted" on the fsls. If you managed to spot 20 prices in the first applicable interval, post those together. Then proceed to the next interval, and the next until you've posted 'em all. Unless you've been on road a long time, there wouldn't be too many groups.

I agree with TxJeans insofar as that if one is going to post them en masse, they should err on the side of using the earliest spotting time, not the latest or an average, as the price could have changed at the earlier stations since you actually observed it. Often, that will mean somebuddy has already posted a more recent price.

But for Speedway states at least, and PA is a Speedway state now, even 15 minutes off can be a problem on a day the Speedway decides to spike prices at all of its stations, and others follow them up like sheep. Several times, I've been alerted to a Speedway spike, needed gas, checked this site for where prices had not spiked yet and managed to get to the station before prices increased. 2 or 3 times, at least, the price raised as I was pulling up or while I was at the station. So 15 minutes can matter.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jun 22, 2014 7:30:27 PM

"While you might not be able to future DATE them, it is possible to post prices at a time in the future from when you SAW them."

Very true.

"What SUVfan was saying is that if you are not going to break prices down to their different time slots (15-30 minute slots) then you should be timestamping them to the EARLIEST time, not the default current time."

From what I am reading is SUVFan is saying prices should be posted to the time closest to when they were seen. If you saw 10 stations 15 minutes apart, SUVFan is stating they should be posted from a PC one at at time. Is that correct SUVFan?
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Message Posted: Jun 22, 2014 6:49:15 PM

Scoutmaster:
<<<""In short, it is OK to post prices using a time earlier than when you actually spotted them but not later than the actual time."

You can't future date price posts, jrsva. ">>>

While you might not be able to future DATE them, it is possible to post prices at a time in the future from when you SAW them.

What SUVfan was saying is that if you are not going to break prices down to their different time slots (15-30 minute slots) then you should be timestamping them to the EARLIEST time, not the default current time.

Not being familiar with Waterloo, and admittedly not going to the site to see how many stations are w/in Waterloo or how long it would be to drive by all of them, I also don't know what the price variance normally is across Waterloo.
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Message Posted: Jun 22, 2014 5:31:03 PM

SUVFan,

You were talking about posting in the JFF or Off Topic categories multiple time in a short period. That has nothing to do with this.

What wouldn't sink in, SUVFan?

The point is you can post multiple stations at the same time using your FSL on the full site.

I never said you could spot all the Waterloo, Ontario at the same time. I said they could be posted at the same time. But considering there are only 19 stations in Waterloo on the MSL and they seem to be with in about a 15 mile radius, I would guess they could all be spotted within about 45 minutes and posting them all at the same time would really be no big deal.

I post from my cell phone each day. The 1st station I post is from a red light. The next is from the subway station. The last is as I pass it on the subway on the way to work.

"That's exactly how I've rolled here for years. I don't post with a smart phone and would NEVER post with one while driving. That has to fall within Ohio's texting prohibition and where legal is still ill advised."

Adult drivers (18 years or older):

*It is Illegal to use a handheld electronic wireless communications device to write, send or read a text while driving in Ohio.

Minor misdemeanor, could face a fine of up to $150.

You should really know the law before claiming it is legal SUVFan.


[Edited by: scoutmaster at 6/22/2014 5:34:12 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Jun 22, 2014 3:15:38 PM

>The next time you are out and about, SUVFan, don't report any prices with your smartphone. Record them along with the exact time you saw them. When you get to a PC, enter them from there individually with the time that is closest to when you saw them. Now this will need to be for a bunch of station, not just one or two. Then let us know how long it took you to do this.<

Been there, done that, bought the t-shirt. That's exactly how I've rolled here for years. I don't post with a smart phone and would NEVER post with one while driving. That has to fall within Ohio's texting prohibition and where legal is still ill advised.

I've reported 20 or 25 stations, maybe more, after a single outing numerous times. It takes almost the exact same amount of time to do it right as it does to lie about the time I spotted the price. You post the first batch in a given time interval, hit enter. The same fsl pops back up quickly. You enter the next batch with a time 15 minutes earlier (I always am sure to post the most recent prices first) and hit enter. Repeat until done.

Scoutmaster, you're the one that opined in my thread about the delay that a few minutes isn't a big deal. That's all we're talking about here.

If you can't bother to post prices correctly, I believe you shouldn't post them at all.

RichWLIN, I know. Even then I don't think it would sink in.

Scoutmaster, how do you know it's possible to apot all Waterloo stations at the same price within the ssme 15 or even 30 minute block. I'm guessing you didn't go up there and drive around, and I'm also guessing you didn't do a google map that shows a route that proves it's possible to spot them all. I'm taking the OP at their word until they are proved wrong, which has not happened, and in the absence of that, is infinitely more "proof" of the situation than there is contrary. At worst, they've committed the felony of using inartful English, perhaps, but who here has never been guilty of that?
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Message Posted: Jun 22, 2014 7:07:25 AM

If the person the OP is complaining about did indeed post ALL the gas prices for Waterloo, Ontario as 140.9 at the same time, then it most likely is vandalism. While it is easily possible for someone to post all the prices in a town at the same time, looking at the prices in Waterloo Ontario a few hours later revealed that most of the stations had a lower price than 140.9. It is implausible that most of the stations in Waterloo Ontario lowered their prices in a rising crude oil environment in the 4 hours after the spotter posted those prices.
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Message Posted: Jun 22, 2014 6:58:37 AM

SUVFan,

Seems that the only way you can prove the validity of the OP to the partnered trolls would be to log on to the Pittsburgh and Orange County sites and simultaneously enter the same price for every station in 150 square miles.

windrifter is probably not coming back after all of the negative commentary.

RG
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