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TB

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Message Posted: May 20, 2014 4:36:07 PM

Hi Everyone
Well the day is almost upon us where we will be adding cash/credit to the website. We tried to minimize the impact of this change as much as possible.

So here are some of the changes that we are going to be implementing with cash/credit.

• The big change is that we will no longer be allowing postings for stations that are not matched to the Master Station List.

o You will no longer have to manually enter in station addresses on the price input form. Instead you will be able to choose an address from the suggestion list. This will help improve the accuracy of the data that we all are using. You will have to choose an address from the suggestion list that pops up after you enter the area and the station. After you choose the station, area, and address if the station offers cash/credit then the cash credit text boxes will appear for you to enter the prices.
o The other change that goes along with this is that favorite stations that are "not matched" to the Master Station List will no longer appear in your Favorite Stations List. I strongly suggest that you go through your lists and match all the stations that you want to report prices for.

o The stations in your Favorite Stations List will also have extra boxes for cash/credit if that station offers that feature in the Master Station List. We chose not to allow any more non-matched entries for a number of reasons, but the main one is that it should reduce any duplicate postings that are being seen on the site.

o Only having matched stations will also allow us to have better validation procedures implemented and help to make the gas prices even more accurate.

• When you click on a price in the list to update it you will be able to enter all the fuel types for that station at once.

• When reporting a price for a cash/credit station, you can go to the price input form and enter the prices, then choose the station, area, and address. The cash/credit boxes will populate after you choose the address and all the prices you just put in the text boxes will go into the cash boxes by default, then you can enter credit prices.

• One other thing we are working on to help improve reporting prices is the ability to turn off specific fuel grades at individual stations. No more displaying diesel at stations that don’t sell diesel! We aren’t quite there yet, but it’s coming.

Please know that the maps have not yet been updated for cash/credit. We are working on it and hope to have it updated soon as well we just didn't want it to hold up the website update any longer.



[Edited by: TB at 5/20/2014 4:37:02 PM EST]
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Aug 21, 2014 12:58:47 PM

After making the changes to the MSL so unmatched don't show in FSL, should closed stations show in your FSL as matched? Maybe there needs to be a color code and Closed permanently won't show, closed temporarily would be "dimmed"?
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Daruma
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2014 12:26:41 PM

I take a lot of spontaneous road trips and am no happy when a station has huge signs with a great price, but when getting to the pump find if I'm using a debit card even though it's pays like cash, they treat my payment like credit. Which is not right. You can't tell until your debit card is inserted to see if it is treated like cash. If they don't honor the cash price for me, I cancel the sale and drive to a station that offers the lowest price. So this information will be nice to finally see.
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CrappieFool
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Message Posted: Aug 15, 2014 1:18:15 AM

Why ONLY CASH price shown in listings? Even when NO recent price posting for CASH price, but extremely recent CREDIT price, either NO price listing or and OLD CASH price listing?

WHYWHYWHYWHYWHYWHYWHYWHYWHYWHYWHY??????????????????????The community DESERVES an answer!!!!!!!!!!
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Aug 10, 2014 11:21:18 PM

CupBoy - the GBO FAQ apparently was originally for posting the cash price, then switched to posting the Credit price and then several years ago (before the cash/credit dual posting) changed to the cash price as ostensibly the cheapest price.

However, I suspect that in most areas of the country the dual price mode is not that common, and except where mandated by regulations or local custom, most stations tend to post the lower cash price at the sign. The new system allows for both the cash and credit to be posted. If you use your favorite station list, you will see both prices (if/when members post them).
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cupboy
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Message Posted: Aug 10, 2014 5:48:19 PM

Now if a station has cash and credit prices only the cash price is displayed on the site. Is this a deal you made with your advertisers (oil companies) to make the gas seem less expensive? Most of us pay actual pump prices, and pay at the pump with a card, not in the "store" with cash.
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TimLee
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2014 8:51:33 AM

SuperMoto you are correct.
The GasBuddy incompetence is worse than I thought.
I can't even imagine why they would be providing a logged in view that is different than what they have in their database??
Complete incompetence.
If they don't do better than this soon, I and many others will choose to abandon using the site.
Just becoming too much of a waste of time.

Another case where a small firm sold out to a big company and it got run into the ground.
Seems to happen 90% of the time.
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SuperMoto
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2014 3:19:24 AM

The ability to delete prices is not back. You can delete them as before but they only appear deleted to you if you're using the "remember me" feature. If you switch browsers or use another computer you'll find the price is still there for the world to see.

There are still many things broken on this website since the update.
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TimLee
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Message Posted: Aug 4, 2014 5:50:47 PM

The ability to delete incorrect prices has been back for at least two or three weeks on the Chattanooga site.
But the Web site is failing to clear the deleted price on the display of price in the Favorite Station List. But at least you can clear the erroneous price in the price list.
I haven't checked if it is fixing the price on the price map.

I don't think only showing the grades that are on Master Station List has done much to stop idiots using the app from putting in erroneous grades.
They just tap the add grade and enter it anyway. Fortunately that doesn't modify the MSL.

Gas Buddy should not have the add grade button.
At least make the app user enter request to change MSL.
The stupid app user may still try to include something like No Ethanol regular as Mid-grade, but at least the idiot will have to work at it.

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SuperMoto
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Message Posted: Aug 2, 2014 4:59:40 PM

Members should realize the Gas Buddy website is still (after 6 weeks) under construction. I use the website only.

Many things do not work as before. They changed the "map button" function but that is broke. Some stations it works some it doesn't.

You still can't delete bad prices. And the GB Moderators don't reply to messages about incorrect prices. So if Gas Buddy doesn't care than neither do I. Now the morons are just doing what ever they want!!!

But the site is slowly getting better. Lets hope it gets back to normal soon.
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PaulaHart
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2014 9:42:28 AM

What about "club" prices?
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Jul 24, 2014 7:07:17 AM

Has anyone checked to see what happens to prices posted from older devices that don't have the cash/credit version of software?

Either it posts the same prices to both, or we have a significant number of folks putting the same price in both cash and credit.

Around me, I put most of the Cash / Credit stations on a separate FSL, and it seems that stations that were frequently posted before often have timed out empty prices or have both. When they have both, it seems to be a significant portion of the time that the prices are the same.

I find it odd that stations that were almost always posted at the same time as their companion non-dual station on the next corner now often have no prices or the cash and credit seem to be the same.

Initial observations but will be watching more closely now that I made a separate FSL for the C/C dual priced stations.
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TimLee
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2014 10:04:11 AM

So I see this morning 21Jul2014 that you are starting to work on Web page.
Not going too well though.
All the diesel price entry blocks are missing?
They can't all not have diesel in Master Station List.
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TimLee
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2014 1:06:27 AM

Still need to get the Web entry caught up to the changes in the app.
Web site still isn't locking out entry of grades not on Master Station List like app does.
And having eliminated ability to clear erroneous prices using a zero price entry, there is no way to fix an erroneous entry by an inexperience novice.
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sarahgpdx
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2014 12:16:03 PM

The changes sound like they are for the best.
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dczh
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Message Posted: Jul 10, 2014 4:43:07 PM

The Conoco Truck stop at Morgan Road and I-40 in Oklahoma City (Flying J) is one of the ones that has dual prices for Diesel (not shown on your site yet), as do the other three TS on that corner. However some of the posters are posting the cash price on the credit line, they aren't reading or watching what they are doing, misleading anyone counting on the site for accuracy. The dual price lines saves me from having to make a comment to that effect.
For the questioner that says which do we post--ethanol or non-ethanol I would just suggest putting one or the other in the comment section, for those stations that carry not only E-10, but E-15, and E-85 as well, try to place the prices in the comment section, I guess.
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KAR120CSII
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Message Posted: Jul 9, 2014 4:39:21 PM

How can I get the prices for the ARCO in Florence, Oregon, to show the price as CASH?
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Jul 9, 2014 7:27:55 AM

I live in an area where most (all?) stations do not post both prices (cash & credit) at the curb (unlike, say - California).

What I have noticed to some extent is what I expected. The dual priced stations usually only have the cash price reported. Credit card folks are apparently going elsewhere, and the Cash folks that do fill up don't bother posting the credit prices.

That said, it seems like the ones I put to my FSL to watch that do have both cash and credit prices filled in, have both sets filled in exactly the same. No price differential. These are dual priced stations.

So, what is happening with prices from those on older devices that have not been able to update their mobile apps? How are those prices showing on the website?

PS
Hey TB - you might want to have the programmers fix the time stamping on threads like this so it is apparent when the last response was made... Actually it would be nice to have two columns - one for when thread started and one for when thread was last updated.

Oh and the truncated saved searches stinks....Made them useless in a county like mine. Too hard to make workable by making multiple smaller search areas and have to look at multiple ones because of the truncated searches.

One more thing about FSL - I want to be able to bridge to the exact station posting so I can see who last posted....

[Edited by: TxJeans at 7/9/2014 7:32:56 AM EST]
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Karensg1
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Message Posted: Jul 6, 2014 4:57:48 PM

THANKS...this very helpful information.
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cupboy
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2014 5:59:23 PM

The site only displays cash prices if a station has cash prices. This is no good. Let's drop the cash price feature since it only helps out gas stations making their price appear lower when it's not really the price on the pump.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Jun 30, 2014 12:32:08 AM

Hey TB - you might want to have the programmers fix the time stamping on threads like this so it is apparent when the last response was made...
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20Yoleven
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2014 8:26:14 PM


I agree, TimLee. Although a lot of erroneous price posting here
in Jersey seems to be the case of guys posting with the little
head instead of the big head, trolls, rabble-rousers, chuckleheads,
& people with no life.
Pity...this site used to be pretty reliable.
Now it's a bit of a crap shoot, but hey; it can only get better!
;]
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TimLee
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2014 12:14:37 PM

Restoring comments is appreciated.
Hope ability to clear erroneous entrys will return soon.
When you restrict grade to MSL match it will help a lot.
Still idiots that will not listen posting No Ethanol Regular as Mid-Grade.
But still need ability to clear an incorrect price that happens due to mistyping.
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20Yoleven
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2014 10:02:15 PM


The 'Comments' has been reinstated....Thankya, thankyaverramuch.
No, really: THANK YOU!!!

The 'Comments', for years, has been one of the best tools to have
for posting prices, giving us the ability to display maximum info in a single location to benefit most all consumers, especially if one uses a Debit or other card, which the majority of us do.
Now, with the verification of the primary price being
ID'd with a green flag, the combo of that & the Card Price in the
Comments helps the accuracy of the post, and with no need to click
on the 'Map' button to find the card price. It could work, for now.

Speaking of the 'Map' feature, I accidently stumbled onto my own
card price postings, which started appearing on the maps ONLY, after the June 20 Cash/CC launch. I was stunned, as this was NOT a case of 'RTFM',
because there ISN'T any manual, or any other real instructions on how to use this site to full benefit. Newbies, feel free to run amuck!

I apologize for thumbing the initial Cash/CC effort so brutally
in previous posts, as there actually ARE some noticeable
improvements:

• Prices that ARE Cash are ID'd with the green CASH label,
eliminating the guessing game as to what the primary price
represents (if accurately posted in the first place).

• Yes, the Comment feature is NOW back, & hopefully NOT to
be abused again with BS such as 'great deli, too!', 'most polite
pump jockeys in town' (yeah, we still have people pump our fuel
for us in NJ), 'service here sux', blah, blah.
Just the fact (price info), Jack.

• Yo, big personal one here: When clicking on a Comment in my
favorite stations list, it no longer jacks the entire page up or
down. That previous glitch was real annoying; works great now,
Thank Youz again.

Alas, that's about it, for now. I anticipate thanking you AGAIN
for future improvements.

Don't make me look bad....!
;]
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DavisSta
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2014 1:46:41 AM

GoGoGoodyear wrote:
"Note that California Business and Professions Code section 13530 and related sections that control gas station price signage require that the highest price for each grade be posted prominently, but the lower prices such as cash or with car wash discount are optional."

Thanks, GoGoGoodyear. You're right, the highest price must be posted. In practice of course, most California stations that have a lower price (such as cash), will post that, too, because they are likely to attract more customers that way. The exceptions I have seen usually occur when a station has recently switched to dual pricing and doesn't yet have signage capable of listing two prices per grade.

Also, note that the California law only requires that "the prices of the three major grades of motor vehicle fuel offered for sale" be displayed on a large street sign. Thus, sometimes stations that sell four types of fuel (regular, midgrade, premium, and diesel) only have the prices for three on their sign, typically leaving off either premium or diesel. For example, many Flyers stations (such as this one) don't show the premium price on their sign, even though they sell premium.

"PS: the OP and replies to it should be moved to it's own topic as it has no direct connection to the announcement of web site upgrades."

I agree.
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GoGoGoodyear
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Message Posted: Jun 26, 2014 3:16:54 AM

NuclearBubba posted on 6/24/2014:
"That's all good, but what about the stations that mislead customers, like the Arco on Aero Dr & Murphy Canyon. You'll think you're getting a good deal til u look closer & realize u have 2 buy a bag of ice or a pizza 2 get that price... "

This seems similar to a car wash discount price issue and should be clearly labeled on the price sign.

In California there are regulations that control how gas stations advertise their prices on the street signs. Some counties in California may have stricter regulations than this, but this is the minimum.

The following is a response from the Los Angeles Bureau of Weights and Measures dated 2012, regarding the gas station price signs which you may find useful.

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Dear _-,

I was forwarded your question about price advertising signs at gas stations. The requirements for gas station advertising can be found in the California Business and Professions Code starting with section 13530.

Gas stations do not have to display a cash price. If they do indicate a cash price on the sign the numerals have to be the same height as the higher price, and the condition of sale, "cash" has to be in letters one third the size of the numerals.

Sincerely,

JEFF HUMPHREYS
Deputy Director
Weights and Measures Bureau
Agricultural Commissioner/Weights and Measures
County of Los Angeles
(562) 622-0404
(562) 861-0278 fax
JHumphreys@acwm.lacounty.gov

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Note that California Business and Professions Code section 13530 and related sections that control gas station price signage require that the highest price for each grade be posted prominently, but the lower prices such as cash or with car wash discount are optional.

PS: the OP and replies to it should be moved to it's own topic as it has no direct connection to the announcement of web site upgrades.
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DavisSta
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Message Posted: Jun 25, 2014 6:15:51 AM

NuclearBubba wrote:
"That's all good, but what about the stations that mislead customers, like the Arco on Aero Dr & Murphy Canyon. You'll think you're getting a good deal til u look closer & realize u have 2 buy a bag of ice or a pizza 2 get that price..."

To which scoutmaster replied:
"The only thing you can do is complain to the state of California and get them to change the law regarding posting prices."

Actually, there are laws in California regarding the posting of gasoline prices. See section 13532 of the California Business and Professions Code. The undiscounted price must be displayed in numerals at least 6 inches tall. Any signs displaying a discounted price must also display the conditions of the discount in letters not less than 1/3 the size of the price numerals. If you believe that the station may not be complying with the law, contact the Standards Enforcement program of San Diego County Agriculture, Weights, and Measures at 858-694-2778 and have them send an inspector to the station. They can enforce the law and assess penalties.

[Edited by: DavisSta at 6/25/2014 6:16:44 AM EST]
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RF4CPhantom
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Message Posted: Jun 25, 2014 1:37:18 AM

I think your so called "Improvements" STINK~!
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jun 24, 2014 4:14:22 PM

"That's all good, but what about the stations that mislead customers, like the Arco on Aero Dr & Murphy Canyon. You'll think you're getting a good deal til u look closer & realize u have 2 buy a bag of ice or a pizza 2 get that price..."

The only thing you can do is complain to the state of California and get them to change the law regarding posting prices.
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NuclearBubba
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Message Posted: Jun 24, 2014 3:14:52 PM

That's all good, but what about the stations that mislead customers, like the Arco on Aero Dr & Murphy Canyon. You'll think you're getting a good deal til u look closer & realize u have 2 buy a bag of ice or a pizza 2 get that price...
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Jun 24, 2014 12:59:43 PM

russellmaxwell

<<<i sent you a message that you are displaying my station incorrectly as we do not offer a difference in price. mine has been singled out in our city while others who actually do offer such differences are not listed as cash. when you post my price it always says cash on the display thus misleading the public and damaging my business.>>>

The mods/ptb are a bit buried with emails over the rollout. I would suggest you check the Master Station List found by going to the GAS PRICES then MASTER STATION LIST (MSL). You do not have enough points to update the MSL but if you post in your local forum, maybe a fellow Gasbuddy with sufficient points can update it if the cash/credit box is checked in error. If it is NOT checked and still showing the cash / credit flag then there is a true anomaly that needs to be investigated.

<<<this happened only days after i posted an award given to me by the naacp on my facebook page. i have dealt with discrimination for years in my area because of my inter-ratial marriage and i do not take it laying down.>>>

Might it be the day they rolled out the cash/credit to the website? If so, it may be simply someone marked the wrong station for cash/credit (a member editing the MSL). You can look at the details and edits for the MSL even if you cannot edit them until you have 10,000 points.

<<<<Please either correct my station or do the same to all stations. I have no problem with how you run your business unless you unfairly and incorrectly represent mine.>>>

I highly doubt that someone from GBO sought out your station in all the many stations in the DB to intentionally harm you.

Again, check the MSL and if the cash/credit is inappropriately marked by a member, then post in your local forum to see if someone can update it or wait for the PTB to get to your email/PM to address the issue.

[Edited by: TxJeans at 6/24/2014 1:00:49 PM EST]
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russellmaxwell
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Message Posted: Jun 24, 2014 9:01:55 AM

i sent you a message that you are displaying my station incorrectly as we do not offer a difference in price. mine has been singled out in our city while others who actually do offer such differences are not listed as cash. when you post my price it always says cash on the display thus misleading the public and damaging my business.

this happened only days after i posted an award given to me by the naacp on my facebook page. i have dealt with discrimination for years in my area because of my inter-ratial marriage and i do not take it laying down.

Please either correct my station or do the same to all stations. I have no problem with how you run your business unless you unfairly and incorrectly represent mine.
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rho
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Message Posted: Jun 23, 2014 11:48:26 PM

TB:

Update:

Posting prices for a duel price station from the main site from my Favorite Station List tonight using the time Spotted of 5 hours ago, I believe all the prices got updated OK between the app and the full site EXCEPT in our Favorite Station list still. See below.

Also noticed on App all the time stamps was the current time & should have 5 hours ago.

On the full site Favorite Station List:

The "Cash Mid" price & time is still blank.
The "Credit Mid" price still gets the Cash Mid price.
The "Cash Diesel" price still missing the time stamp.

On the app all the time stamps show current time that should have been 5 hours ago:

Cash Reg time was the current time & should have 5 hours ago.
Credit Reg time was the current time & should have 5 hours ago.

Cash Mid time was the current time & should have 5 hours ago.
Credit Mid time was the current time & should have 5 hours ago.

Cash Prem time was the current time & should have 5 hours ago.
Credit Prem time was the current time & should have 5 hours ago.

Cash Diesel was the current time & should have 5 hours ago.
Credit Diesel was the current time & should have 5 hours ago.

[Edited by: rho at 6/23/2014 11:51:31 PM EST]
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Geo4564
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Message Posted: Jun 23, 2014 10:54:57 PM

The GasBuddy website here in Reno, NV (NevadaGasPrices.com) was converted to the Cash/Credit mode last week. There were some small glitches the first couple days but were corrected quickly. All is working well and I love the improvements.
Well Done!!!
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TimLee
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Message Posted: Jun 23, 2014 10:30:54 AM

Sure will be better when you implement only allowing fuel grades in the master station list to be entered. For now you have just made price reports less accurate by not letting us clear the garbage some people insist on posting!!!
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rho
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Message Posted: Jun 23, 2014 12:26:48 AM


TB:

Update:
Posting prices for a duel price station from the main site from my Favorite Station List tonight, I believe all the prices got updated OK between the app and the full site except in our Favorite Station list still. But noticed on App the Credit Reg time, both Mid times and both Prem times was the current time & should have 6 hours ago. Tonight did not post Diesel. Will test this tomorrow with a local Station with all 4 fuels.

On the full site Favorite Station List:
The "Cash Mid" price & time is still blank.
The "Credit Mid" price still gets the Cash Mid price.
The "Cash Diesel" price still missing the time stamp.

The time Stamp on the app

Cash Reg not Tested due to a more recent previous price post.
Credit Reg time was the current time & should have 6 hours ago

Cash Mid time was the current time & should have 6 hours ago
Credit Mid time was the current time & should have 6 hours ago

Cash Prem time was the current time & should have 6 hours ago
Credit Prem time was the current time & should have 6 hours ago

Cash Diesel Not tested tonight - plan to test this tomorrow with a local station.
Credit Diesel Not tested tonight - plan to test this tomorrow with a local station.

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LQQKGAS
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Message Posted: Jun 22, 2014 2:05:06 PM


The free comments being removed is a good idea because of useless info being posted, but a drop down list of approved comments would help, such as:

Cash Only price
Cash or Credit price
Debit / Atm card fee
Membership / Military only pricing
Pumps temporally closed/ store remains open
Grocery store discount available
Etc:

[Edited by: LQQKGAS at 6/22/2014 2:12:38 PM EST]
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GoGoGoodyear
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Message Posted: Jun 22, 2014 3:10:02 AM

The ability to zero out bad prices is still not working, and some smarta$$ members are taking advantage of this, especially posting made-up mid-grade and diesel prices at Costco where neither is ever sold.
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SuperMoto
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Message Posted: Jun 21, 2014 4:54:58 PM

TB,

I concur with "rho" about the "Credit Mid" price still gets the Cash Mid price.

This happens on all cash/credit stations I post on too. Diesel is OK. I just use full site.
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rho
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Message Posted: Jun 21, 2014 4:21:15 PM


TB:

Our Safeway in Lincoln was updated 3hrs ago. I believe all the prices got updated OK between the app and the full site except in our Favorite Station list.

On the full site Favorite Station List:
*** The "Cash Mid" price & time is still blank.
*** The "Credit Mid" price still gets the Cash Mid price.
*** The "Cash Diesel" price still missing the time stamp.

Last night notice that the "Time Spotted" feature from the Favorite Station List worked OK and no longer posting the time stamp with EDT anymore. The time issue was corrected to give us our local time on our posted prices.

Update on the last post.

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rho
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Message Posted: Jun 21, 2014 3:50:42 PM


TB:

Our Safeway in Lincoln was updated 2hrs ago. I believe all the prices got updated OK between the app and the full site except in our Favorite Station list.

On the full site Favorite Station List:
The "Cash Mid" price is still blank.
The Credit Mid" price still gets the Cash Mid price.

Last night notice that the "Time Spotted" feature from the Favorite Station List worked OK and no longer posting the time stamp with EDT anymore. The time issue was corrected to give us our local time. This may or not fix our ability to zero out prices, but I have not tried it yet. Note: to zero out prices, you have to zero out the price with the date and time past the price that was posted your trying to get rid of.
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SuperMoto
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Message Posted: Jun 21, 2014 3:08:26 PM

Please restore the ability to zero out bad prices. It is unfortunate that some members think this web site is a game to have the lowest price in town or the state. I shouldn't have to drive across town to check if a station just dropped their price 25 cents and what the correct price is.

The only option now appears to be to change the price to $6.00 a gallon so it is obvious it is a bad price.
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SuperMoto
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Message Posted: Jun 21, 2014 2:52:58 PM

Please reinstate comments!!! They are very useful.

For example: 1) There are 2 stations in my area that only accept cash. 2) There are stations for clubs or military only. 3) Some stations like Cumberland Farms that have a debit type card for reduced prices. 4) Some stations are in a plaza or square. ETC................

It is a nice to have feature to add information to find that particular station. I use it and my comments still show up in my FSL.
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SuperMoto
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Message Posted: Jun 21, 2014 2:39:47 PM

I see some things have been fixed. I can post prices at a certain time again and I see gas price changes are not buggy.

Still it is hard to believe this update was tested and found ready to implement.

Who ever the company is or webmaster should be fired!
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sillywagon
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2014 11:30:42 PM

When I look at "Map gas prices" in the area where I post my favorite gas stations, only the credit price stations are showed. Some people want to pay the cheapest price (I'm one of them), and that cheaper price is usually a cash price.

The best way is to find a way to show on the map both cash and credit prices, whichever members post. I just use the website, so I don't know how the smart phone app is affected. Showing both prices is the best option.

And, members could post BOTH cash and credit prices.
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gasman75
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2014 11:42:19 AM

Change the maps to show CASH price for Cash/Credit stations.
Until the map preferences include a cash/credit selector, please default to the CASH price instead of the CREDIT price.

I have always used the map as my primary station chooser and I cannot do that because the CASH (lowest) prices are not shown.
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blkstn2012
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Message Posted: Jun 19, 2014 11:14:52 PM

bring back comments,it is nice to tell people what else they offer.
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SixOnTheFloor
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Message Posted: Jun 19, 2014 8:32:16 PM

Wow! Talk about making things difficult!

GasBuddy must have hired the same group of programmers the government had for Obama Care. There are some good ideas here, but the rollout is premature. Example, if I do not know the cash and credit price, it tells me I have entered an invalid price. There are many more such issues.

Please roll back to the previous version until most of the issues have been resolved.
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lgppa
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Message Posted: Jun 19, 2014 1:31:46 PM


I agree with others, we need to be able to zero out non-existing prices that still can be posted and hasn't been disable in the MSL.

On my FSL, the comments show up but when I do a search of that station, no comments are displayed! Even though probably most GBs don't put in comments either because they don't know about them or they don't care, those of us that do care would like to continue having the comments displayed! One of the comments I make is for a 3 cent AAA discount at Sapp Bro. Truck Stop in Clearfield, PA the other is a 2 cent difference for credit/cash price!

Also, I know you stated that you haven't updated cash/credit on the maps, but when I click on the price flag box on the map, the the box that displays the station info displays the credit price and not the cash price and of course there is no line for comments even though it appears there is room for a line or 2 of comments, if that could be fixed that would be appreciated. See Fuel On 208 Filbert St Curwensville, PA which displays the credit price on the map but shows the cash price on the regular price search for Curwensville.

Also, when I bring up the PA home page, I don't see any prices listed as cash prices, does it only bring up credit prices or is that something else that has to be fixed to display the lowest cash price or are the cash prices just to high to be listed?

Why is it showing a listing of half as many stations for the state site as it listed before this latest change?


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TimLee
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Message Posted: Jun 19, 2014 11:11:29 AM

You have big problems with this update.
Eliminating Comments is a bad idea.
Leaves no means to report No Ethanol regular prices.
I dislike eliminating erroneous prices.
But at least the one I had to clear out a lot hopefully will be eliminated by my correction of the Master Station List.
You have the following station all messed up:
Shell
8201 Apison Pike & Old Lee Hwy
Ooltewah
The prices reported via App don't even show up on the Web page if you search for it.
They do show up in my favorite station list, but Cash mid and Cash Dispel are missing.
App also doesn't have diesel cash. But MSL only has single Cash / Credit selector?
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20Yoleven
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Message Posted: Jun 19, 2014 8:11:36 AM


GB Mods,

I cannot even begin to express how disappointed I am at the results of the long anticipated launch of the Cash/Credit posting system.

The credibility of the site as a reference for fuel prices has
become non-existent overnight.

Example: Checking our NJ Home page this AM, there are 15 stations
listed; NONE have even a 'Cash' flag, even though I know that at
least NINE of them have duel-pricing policies.
And checking my usual posting area, its littered with incorrect
prices (i.e., Midgrade Credit prices posted as Regular Cash, etc.)
by new members, who, I'm guessing are using the mobile app, as ALL
of them have zero forum posts & no whiteboard messages, etc., etc.

This has obviously created mass confusion, and, at this time, other
members cannot correct these false postings, as the ability to zero
them out has also been suspended, along with the 'Comments' line, which I personally used on ALL my postings to state the ACTUAL card price, so that the 84% of fuel consumers would know EXACTLY what their cost would be as they rolled up to the pump.

No card prices showing up, no 'zeroing' out, no 'Comments.
Nice touch.

GB, I know we have been requesting for years for a solution to the
dual-pricing situation, which BTW, as you've told, is rampant
on the East Coast & other parts of the USA.

We would have waited even longer for the real thing.
But this ain't it. Trust me.
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