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Gas_Buddy

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Message Posted: May 10, 2014 2:56:20 PM

I'd like to congratulate two of the most recent Gas Card winners.

First, congratulations to billynderek, a New York Gas Buddy member who won the May 9 drawing on the day he/she joined Gas Buddy, and has 1,000 points.

Second, congratulations to djmeuleman, a Boston Gas Buddy member who won the May 3 drawing on the day he/she joined Gas buddy, and has 1,200 points.

May 2014 is looking to be an interesting and exciting month for new members, whose contributions are appreciated by their fellow New York and Boston members, helping them be more knowledge shoppers at the gas pumps.
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Byte_Doctor
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2014 7:46:10 AM

"is it possible that some people are running multiple accounts and starting mopre new accounts in order to increase the tickets they can purchase?"

I suspect it is likely that is at least part of what is happening.
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a5
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2014 9:48:15 PM

"Perhaps there are fewer long-time members in general than more recent / less active members"

my apologies for adding fuel to the fire but is it possible that some people are running multiple accounts and starting mopre new accounts in order to increase the tickets they can purchase?
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buckeyecountry
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2014 4:49:44 PM

At times it used to take weeks to post a weekly winner. Now no problems whatsoever getting daily winners....hmmmmmmm
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Aug 17, 2014 3:45:00 PM

Gas_Buddy says: "No intentional sarcasm. Just thought it appropriate to congratulate people while I thought of it."

Hmmm...if you say so.

RG
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2014 3:00:46 PM

RichWLIN:

Nope; no hidden agenda. No intentional sarcasm. Just thought it appropriate to congratulate people while I thought of it.

Canada123:

While you may not have post very many gas prices or done other points earning activities, you're not particular new to the site. What "verification" are you talking about that you "didn't even receive"? Are you saying that being new you didn't receive verification that you're a member?

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Canada123
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Message Posted: Aug 15, 2014 6:29:41 PM

I am also new to the site and didn't even receive a verification.
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Aug 15, 2014 9:52:14 AM

Gas_Buddy allows:

"With the expectation and certainty that the winners will likely take part in the discussions eventually, I'm simply offering public congratulations."

This seems to be just more sarcasm, but assuming that it isn't, why have you failed to congratulate the rest of the low point winners between these recent accolades and your last post of July 25th? Surely, there are members who have won during this time that should get attaboys as well?

Gas_Buddy concludes with: "Surely that's better than the snipping at each other in other threads."

Seems like just another way of doing just that under the questionable guise of good will; but, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and consider that you probably just wanted to keep this topic active for future congratulatory remarks.

RG

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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Aug 15, 2014 2:13:23 AM

I'm not distrustful. In fact if anything, with the last five winners each having less than 20,000 points each, I think it's a great incentive for people to join Gas Buddy, knowing that the odds Of winning the gas cards aren't stacked in favor of "old" members. And, the more New members, the more gas prices posted, and that's what we're ultimately here for, to help each other be knowledgeable shoppers at the gas pump. I'm well beyond anything after the explanation. With the expectation and certainty that the winners will likely take part in the discussions eventually, I'm simply offering public congratulations. Surely that's better than the snipping at each other in other threads.


[Edited by: Gas_Buddy at 8/15/2014 2:16:21 AM EST]
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Aug 15, 2014 12:18:31 AM

Gas_Buddy asks: "Why? Do you think there's anything more than coincidence or luck?"

Nope. But why ask me?

I'm just reading the sarcasm in a number of your posts in this topic that you started. We all know that there are those here who think the fix is in or some other such notion. Continuing the cynicism fans that flame; ergo you must, at the very least, think that others here are distrustful and need to talk about it.

RG

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GrumpyCat
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Message Posted: Aug 14, 2014 9:37:09 PM

I have 257,000 unspent points. Do I have enough yet to buy out a drawing?
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Aug 14, 2014 7:56:48 PM



Distrust? Not in the least. Moderators have explained that the drawing is entirely random, that the free drawing tickets have stopped being issued, and that it's simply the luck of the draw. In this case, the lucky person either saved up all their points over the past six months and had one of 40 tickets entered in the drawing selected, or the lucky person was entering regularly (perhaps about once every four days) and had their one or two entered tickets selected, or maybe finally entered one ticket and won. No reason to think anything is amiss or out of the ordinary. After all, this winner has many more points (read that as "potential tickets to be entered in the drawing) than many other recent winners.

Distrust? Nope. Merely offerng congratulations.
Why? Do you think there's anything more than coincidence or luck?

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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Aug 14, 2014 4:20:10 PM

Distrust Gas_Buddy?
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Aug 14, 2014 3:50:02 PM

Congratulations to the newest gas card winner, freddie555, who in less than six of membership has already has accumulated 6,650 points. May his 1 day consecutive streak double and beyond.
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2014 8:31:59 AM

This all boils down to a matter of trust. Trust, in this particular case, is defined as an unwavering belief in the reliability, truth and or integrity of a daily lottery prize of $100 in free gas.

If you believe that GasBuddy is conducting an honest drawing, then the published winners list seems feasible and acceptable regardless of any point totals or level of participation.

On the other hand, if you feel that the people who are conducting the lottery are making an inequitable distribution as a marketing ploy to generate more interest of members in certain areas of the country, or some such theory, then the published outcome of the daily lottery will probably provide fuel for this fire.

The drawing is being held by a web site that panders to a member constituency who are keenly interested in reducing their fuel costs. This membership is plied with other clever incentives including games, points and award levels in addition to or as a funcion of the daily prize drawings. It is not difficult to understand why some folks have developed a mistrust of GasBuddy considering the obvious manipulation that is taking place here.

It really doesn't matter on which side of the trust equation we find ourselves. In either case, we have no control over the outcome and complaining about or defending the drawing results will do us no good.

RG

[Edited by: RichWLIN at 7/28/2014 8:34:01 AM EST]
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Byte_Doctor
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2014 7:56:07 AM

"We have no way of knowing the point totals of all those who entered. The only stats we have the point totals for the winners. "

My point exactly, so any speculation about the poll's fairness or lack thereof is just that - unfounded speculation. Any analysis of the available data showing the winner's point totals is utterly meaningless in that context.
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2014 7:31:31 AM

We have no way of knowing the point totals of all those who entered. The only stats we have the point totals for the winners.
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Byte_Doctor
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2014 7:24:12 AM

They are meaningless in the context of the current discussion of whether there is some bias in the drawing. You can derive nothing about any selection bias from those sets of data.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2014 5:11:16 AM

They aren't meaningless, Byte_Doctor. They are merely stats about the winners, not those who entered the drawing.
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Byte_Doctor
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2014 9:56:41 PM

"Entire month through the 26th brown or no car 39%,green car 15%,purple car 12%,blue car 15%, black car 4%, orange car 7.5% & red car 7.5%. So just this month 81% of the winners have less than a year of points earning. "

"7th to the 26th

Average 286,262.

3 under 10,000 = 15%
9 > 10,000 < 100,000 = 45%
7 > 100,000 < 1,000,000 = 35%
1 > 1,000,000 = 5% "

These are both meaningless without knowing the breakdown of members entering the drawing during these time periods. Perhaps long-time members are less likely to participate in the drawing. Perhaps there are fewer long-time members in general than more recent / less active members.

[Edited by: Byte_Doctor at 7/27/2014 9:57:13 PM EST]
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2014 9:42:25 PM

MustangEddie,

Not everyone can, regardless of their desire to participate post full set of prices every day. In rural areas, there may be only 1 or 2 stations they pass each day and the prices may not change often. Additionally, in many areas of the country, not all prices are posted at the curb so they may only get one price per station and may not pass many stations in their daily routine or every day on the weekend.

I work from home sometimes and don't go out, so can't (and won't make up prices to get points) post those days. On days I do go to work, if I drive straight there and back via the expressway, I pass one station with one price on the board (and that is if I can see it across construction and traffic on the way in).

Additionally, the contest has no regulation on having to post a certain amount of prices to be eligible. If you have points to buy a ticket and chose to enter the tickets, your tickets each carry the same weight as any other entry for that date's contest.

I don't know if new members get a free ticket for joining, or if that free ticket is auto-entered. This is a good question because one member that was not active and not new but low points one a number of months ago and she said on her WB that she didn't know how she won because she didn't enter.

And, now, it appears that many that we don't consider "active" were given the survey and got 5000 points. Apparently qualifying for the survey did not require any minimum level of price posting in the last year (though I know that at least one high point member said he did not get the survey) to get the survey. It appears that any screen name not on "hold" or "expired" must have been considered "active" for the purpose of getting the survey. That gave a lot of users with low points 5000 points for ticket entry and they may not have all used them all at once.

Additionally, if they track log-ins for purpose of being "active" for the survey, there are those that could log-in to look at prices and spend those 5000 points w/out actual point earning capability that might have qualified for the survey and 5000 points.

My point total is not high considering when I joined. But I joined and did not use the site for long periods of time (no smart phone and not a lot of need). During that time, I also did not enter the contest. However, I do now periodically through some points into the ticket buying.

Again without knowing the number of members at each car color in the system and entering each day, we don't know if there is a true basis in the drawing.

I still am curious what changes they made to allow them to be able to list the winner instantaneously now when it previously took sometimes many weeks before the change to the daily contest, and how they determine what gas card to give. Are they now notifying folks by PM and email? Before was it only by email?
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MustangEddie
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2014 5:53:49 PM

Entire month through the 26th brown or no car 39%,green car 15%,purple car 12%,blue car 15%, black car 4%, orange car 7.5% & red car 7.5%. So just this month 81% of the winners have less than a year of points earning.
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2014 4:53:28 PM

7th to the 26th

Average 286,262.

3 under 10,000 = 15%
9 > 10,000 < 100,000 = 45%
7 > 100,000 < 1,000,000 = 35%
1 > 1,000,000 = 5%
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MustangEddie
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2014 4:38:31 PM

I know I'm taking the bait here scoutmaster but averaging out the total number of points of the winners is really comparing apples to oranges.Remove the 2 over million point winners and the one 750,000 winner through the 24th drops that average point total of the winners to around 165,000 that's about 4 1/2 months of points earning so I can now say that in fact it does prove theories presented.In my eyes there are about 4 deserving winners on that list through the 24th.

[Edited by: MustangEddie at 7/27/2014 4:41:29 PM EST]
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2014 8:51:18 AM

Did TPTB ever define "active"? Did anyone ask what their definition of "active" is?
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2014 8:48:25 AM

Still, in reading through the map complaint posts of the obviously inactive members, it is apparent that they were using the maps frequently enough to comment with functional knowledge. In some instances, it appears in their own words as if they have been using the maps all along.

RG
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2014 8:39:03 AM

I think there are a lot of low point members that have been members for more than a year because many of these folks don't use it daily, but use it when they travel outside of their area. This being summer, more of them may be logging into their accounts for a vacation trip.

Additionally, there are likely some old time members that didn't use the site much after joining, but recently got a smartphone and are starting to use the APP and the site.

And, that survey that was sent out? If they (and I suspect that is the case based on discussion between Gas_Buddy and JT) that the "ACTIVE" status to qualify for a survey email was not necessarily active in posting prices, but in logging in, or in not having an expired screen name. (Anyone remember at what point a screen name is lost do to "inactivity"?). That survey might have woken up a few non-posting members to use their 5000 points. They might not have all used them at the same time thinking everyone might use them the first week so those 5000 times X number of members may be trickling into the ticket buying slowly over the next few months.

[Edited by: TxJeans at 7/26/2014 8:40:11 AM EST]
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2014 8:25:58 AM

This discussion may inadvertently be linked to what some of us noticed about a significant percentage of the members who commented in the myriad of recent map complaint topics.

There seems to be a sigificant membership who obviously use the site but do not often contribute by adding prices or participating in the other ways that are then reflected by point totals. This is clearly evidenced by scores of posts from inactive or dormant members who suddenly found that they could not use the map feature. Just scroll through the various map topics and take note of the number of complainants who have been members for relatively long periods without amassing many points for any kind of participation.

It follows then that the pool from which the daily drawing winners is derived may be much larger than thought of and consist of an inordinate number of relatively inactive potential winners...who incidentally now are appearing frequently to have won.

RG

[Edited by: RichWLIN at 7/26/2014 8:27:48 AM EST]
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MBAcura
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2014 8:05:27 AM

Getting off the point for a second, but keying in on something Eddie said below..."less than a days worth of points earning some in 2 years of membership ", has anyone else noticed a rash of posters who seem to make their first and only post, in a year or two, and they just post the same prices that were already there?

Saw a couple of members yesterday, that I hadn't seen before, post regular at 3 or 4 stations I see everyday on the commute. Looked them up, to see they were two years old, and had only 800-1200 points. Sheesh, why bother to join?



[Edited by: MBAcura at 7/26/2014 8:05:54 AM EST]
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2014 7:55:28 AM

Based on the winner this month through the 24th, the average points earned by these winners is 312,480. Doesn't seem to prove the theories presented.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2014 12:48:16 AM

Depends on how they defined "active" - it sounds like they defined "active" as those id's that have not been put on the dormant, or expired list. I forget what they said the time is that they keep a screen name in reserve when not used before they put the screen name back in the pool.
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MustangEddie
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2014 12:42:32 AM

TxJeans, My understanding was that survey was sent to "active" members only.I don't consider people with less than a days worth of points earning some in 2 years of membership as being active.Again just stating my displeasure.I would like to believe my odds of winning are the same as everyone else's but this years winners data does not bear this out.I don't know how many members this site has but do know from the points leader page over 8700 people have a red car & very few of them have won whereas the number of members with a brown or no car is much larger & have won with surprising regularity.Now if this site has say a million members then I would say the winners data seems right but I tend to believe the site has way fewer than a million members.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Jul 26, 2014 12:14:07 AM

MustangEddie -

First, there were some apparent low pointers that joined in 2012 and 2013 and since their screen names had not retired, they apparently got the survey and had 5000 points to buy tickets for the draws.

Additionally, I am not sure if new members still get a free ticket when joining.

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MustangEddie
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 11:32:17 PM

Buckeye yes his points do make sense he won when he had 2000 points with the first ticket he got.There have been several others that won with less than 1000 points now those don't make sense .TXJeans also brings up several valid points that just don't make sense.Just more info that lends to the belief that the contest is somehow rigged or just not above board.

[Edited by: MustangEddie at 7/25/2014 11:34:03 PM EST]
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 11:18:33 PM

uckeyecountry:

"The one who won the 24th, yesterday....do the points make sense? Has 2,800 today. 1,000 points to get a ticket."

The winner on the 24 had 2,000 points on July 24; apparently 1,000 for joining and 1,000 for posting five gas prices. Entering the drawing on the day of joining Gas Buddy, won the gas card. The member subsequently earned 800 points for posting gas prices (4 price posts at 200 points each), making the points total 2,000 from the day of joining and 800 on the second day of membership, 2,000 plus 800 equals 2,800. The winner's points total simply changes every day the winner has subsequently earned points; the points total doesn't remain the same unless, for example in the case of the 350 point winner and the 120 point winner and other low point gas card winners, the member does no more points activities.

The points reflect current points total; not necessarily how many (or how few) points the member had at the time of winning the gas card.

So, yes; the 2,800 points make sense.



[Edited by: Gas_Buddy at 7/25/2014 11:21:28 PM EST]
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buckeyecountry
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 10:43:35 PM

The one who won the 24th, yesterday....do the points make sense? Has 2,800 today. 1,000 points to get a ticket.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 9:33:35 PM

I have a few thoughts -- but not about conspiracy --

New members may be more likely to enter than long time members where the thought of winning wears off over time and they stick around because they see value in the site beyond the possibility of winning. Add in that many members age off the membership for unforeseen reasons and that the site has grown in popularity in spurts as prices increased, and as more people get smartphones so they can post easier on the road - the number of brown/no cars may be very larger than say green cars or the top red car, etc.

Many of those "brown" cars that have been members for years with low points may only use the site when they go on vacation. I know that I can pretty much chose the best stations on my normal travels w/out the GB site, but when I travel, it becomes more meaningful. So, I suspect there are a lot of folks with brown cars that are not very active but are currently a bit more active due to summer vacation time. Add in the 5000 points for the survey and you could have a bump in the number of brown cars entering the contest (which we still don't know how many brown car members there are, or what % of the tickets they represent.

I am less concerned about brown car/red car/flying car or what ever, but more curious about how they have managed to 1) post the winner immediately when it took weeks before, and 2) how they determine which gas card you get if you win. I was under the impression that before they contacted you and you were give a choice out of the available cards. Now, it seems a card is assigned at the time of the draw and yet, appropriate, apparently for US vs Canadian.

I am also curious about the Canadian skills test, and if any of the winners actually don't qualify after being chosen because they can't be reached, or otherwise are disqualified, and what happens then - since it appears to be instantaneous posting of the winner. How often did a chosen member not qualify in the old drawings? I would assume a fair number since we so often had significant delays in posting of the winning member.

As far as the number of brown cars, without knowing the numbers of each car type winning over a long period of time, the number of members of each color car and the numbers of tickets for each, stating too many brown cars cannot be statistically determined.

That said, it appears that more of the higher colored cars that win are likely to be more active in consecutive days. That makes sense as well, as they have been active for a long time w/out winning where a newbie that really isn't all that interested in the site, might be less likely to continue posting thinking lightening won't strike twice in the same place (which is not true)or because they have returned from their travels.

The other oddity was the one winner that said on her WB that she never entered and she was a low point but not brand new member.

So, there are questions I would like to have answered but that does not mean I believe there is a conspiracy.
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Byte_Doctor
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 8:51:19 PM

"What do you think the odds are that a person entering the so called contest wins on the day they join the site."

The same as your odds of winning, assuming you both enter the same number of tickets into the drawing.

"that has happened 3 times in a matter of months.Just more data that lends to the belief that the contest is not above board. "

There is insufficient data from which to draw that conclusion. In fact, assuming that is a statistical anomaly (and I agree that on the surface it would appear to be) I can think of at least one method whereby the drawing can be gamed by members to produce that result even though the drawing itself is completely above-board.
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 4:15:02 PM

I assume by your screen name BD that you must do some kind computer work that involves some level of statistical data gathering.Here is the last little bit of data that I am going to quote that supports my thoughts.What do you think the odds are that a person entering the so called contest wins on the day they join the site.You'd have to think the odds of that are unbelievably astronomical yet that has happened 3 times in a matter of months.Just more data that lends to the belief that the contest is not above board.
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MustangEddie
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 3:43:01 PM

I should have said this years winners list data.The number of members with no or brown cars on that list far outweigh the rest.Whatever I'm not going to sit here and argue with you Byte Doctor clearly you have your opinion & I have mine.I'm just stating my displeasure but you can see it doesn't hamper my participation on the site.I don't come here to win prizes my motives are to help the driving community.The contest is just a small perk that would be nice to get.I would like to think my odds are the same as everyone else's but the winners list sure seems to show me a pattern that says that just isn't true.
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Byte_Doctor
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 3:17:47 PM

"I would like to think that members who contribute frequently & for a long amount time are worth a little extra consideration."

That would be biased, and wrong (and possibly illegal).

"Clearly the opposite is true & that is really sad. No conspiracy theories this years data bears it out. "

Really? Please, tell me how many members fall into the "have little to no activity or have been members for a relatively short time" category, and how many "contribute frequently & for a long amount time". Then, once you have that data, please follow up with the number of ticket entries for each group, and the overall total ticket count, in each of the drawings this year (or whatever list of drawings that you feel are suspect.) Then finally, a statistical analysis that shows that the results of the drawings aren't within the bounds of a normal distribution for those pieces of data.
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MustangEddie
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 3:10:00 PM

I enter every day. When it was weekly I entered every week & when it was quarterly I entered once in a while.I even used a million points once when the drawing was quarterly & have won bupkiss.I know the odds of winning are small but it's truly amazing how many winners this year have little to no activity or have been members for a relatively short time.I would like to think that members who contribute frequently & for a long amount time are worth a little extra consideration.Clearly the opposite is true & that is really sad. No conspiracy theories this years data bears it out.
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 2:57:33 PM

According to Bytebug, anyone who doubts the integrity of the Gas Card lottery will be excluded from ever winning...this sounds like a conspiracy theory.

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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 10:12:06 AM

Two key words - preconceived and conspiracy.
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 8:37:24 AM

You see this sort of thing in just about every forum. The "why" is almost certainly because of two things:

One, the results of the drawings don't fit some members' preconceived notions about how the distribution of winning members should look. Unfortunately, since we don't know the breakdown of members, much less the breakdown of members vs. tickets entered into the drawing, they cannot know and thus speculate, often from incomplete understanding of the basics of statistics, and certainly without any actual data upon which to base their speculation.

Two, the silence of the moderators on the topic feeds into the conspiracy theorists mindset. Any unanswered question leads them to think the answers would reveal the underlying conspiracy and thus they see it as confirmation that the answer is the one that would do so, otherwise why *not* answer? And of course, when an answer *is* given, those same people claim the answer is a lie to cover up the conspiracy. In other words, you can't win.

Are valid questions being asked? Yes, absolutely. Would I like to hear the answers? Certainly. Do I speculate on it and concoct or promote conspiratorial theories about it? Nope, it is pointless and a waste of time in my opinion.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 7:50:32 AM

This is certainly getting a lot of attention. Kinda makes you wonder why?
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Byte_Doctor
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 7:21:06 AM

"And the odds of that would be..."
The same as the odds for any other random member who entered the same number of tickets into the drawing.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 6:53:55 AM

I still want to know how they can post the winning members instantly when it often took weeks before...especially since apparently our friends from north of us in Canada seem to be required to take a skills test.

Then there was a winner that claimed on her white boarders to those congratulating her that she never entered.

Do new members automatically get entered?

I suspect a lot of high point members gave up on the contest a long time a go...

I scanned th winners the other day and it seems the majority of those with no or brown cars remained inactive but a much higher percent of those with green or higher cars have some activity after winning.

There are probably more brown car in the system with the growth and numbers of inactive or intermittently active (only use when on vaction or distant travel) than red vehicles and they may be more likely to enter.

How many here actively enter regularly?

[Edited by: TxJeans at 7/25/2014 6:56:09 AM EST]
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MustangEddie
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 1:21:46 AM

Since the advent of the daily drawing my thoughts on the legitimacy of the contest has dwindled to zilch.The last few days all the winners have been members for 2 weeks or less.There really should be a certain amount of points & amount of time being a member to be eligible.The cough cough contest is really leaving a bad taste in my mouth.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 12:39:00 AM

Now a 2,000 point winner who won the day of joining. The July 24 winner joined July 24. A "0 Days" "Gas Buddy Age"

And the odds of that would be...
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jul 14, 2014 6:50:10 PM

JT

Thank you for the response. As one who's not received the survey (in either my mail or spam folders), it's just difficult to see that the 22 month member - and I'm saying now I can be wrong - it's difficult to see that the 22 month member with 350 profile identified points has been a particularly active member during the "activity period" for which the survey was directed, and subsequently used the points to randomly enter the drawing (let alone be a winning member).

But, as I said, I can be wrong. It's just perception...that's all. Just perception.

However, again, thank you for the response.


[Edited by: Gas_Buddy at 7/14/2014 6:52:31 PM EST]
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