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roadkingfl

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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2014 9:51:05 AM

This is the second time I've lost my consecutive day count. As of 3/3/14 I was at 83 and I know I recorded prices yesterday and today I'm at 0 consecutive days....so frustrating :(
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dustySD
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Message Posted: Apr 16, 2014 6:46:16 PM

thanks guys...I got it..it's like you said bad programing or just the way it is. have to watch more of what I'm doing next time I guess. well I'll be watchin out, until the next issue happens.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Apr 16, 2014 4:27:53 PM

dustySD :

"why is it that i can do the daily free entry, then enter gas prices...but if you enter the prices 1st and it puts you below your 1000 for the entry, then you cannot enter for the free daily one because it says you need more points....why is that...if it's a free entry."

Scrapheap, I believe, can best answer your question but as I understand it (and it's something that will be changed by Gas Buddy), if you have under 1,000 usable points, you can enter the daily drawing one time as long as you have not yet done a points activity that day. If you make a points activity before you enter the drawing, you have to have at least the 1,000 points required to enter the drawing. So while the drawing is a free entry, it's only fully free if you have under 1,000 points and haven't done anything except enter the drawing. It's not "free" if you have under 1,000 points b ut but have done something before you entered the drawing.

While I think that's correct, again, Scrapheap I believe can best explain it.
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Scrapheap
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Message Posted: Apr 16, 2014 4:12:02 PM

dustySD - I think that is simply bad programming. I think they planned to give all new members a free entry into the drawing and they did that by allowing you a free entry until you earned one yourself. They just did it in a poor manner so you get a free entry after every draw if you have less than 1000 points.
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dustySD
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Message Posted: Apr 16, 2014 2:27:26 PM

thanks for the info. why is it that i can do the daily free entry, then enter gas prices...but if you enter the prices 1st and it puts you below your 1000 for the entry, then you cannot enter for the free daily one because it says you need more points....why is that...if it's a free entry.
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CelticHeart
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Message Posted: Apr 16, 2014 11:32:48 AM

dustySD, really not sure what you mean about "get so much." Points? Everyone is able to get the same as the next guy. No one gets more than anyone else. It takes less than three years to hit your first million, which you could have with daily posting.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Apr 15, 2014 9:21:54 PM

"...real good for me considering I don't have a lot of time to put in prices, but do when I can. I don't know how some of you guys get so much."

If "consecutive daqy and "get so much" (whatever that means, but I assume means 'points') is important, you simply spend a couple minutes posting five gas prices or make a quick entry on a mobile devices app. It takes only a minute or two to post multiple gas prices, and only a few minutes longer to read the news articles and make posts in the Just For Fun discussion category (if you want). The will keep your consecutive days streak going (if it's important enough to worry about) and will maximize your points (if that's your concern).
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dustySD
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Message Posted: Apr 15, 2014 8:37:44 PM

well so far for me this is my 23rd day in a row...real good for me considering I don't have a lot of time to put in prices, but do when I can. I don't know how some of you guys get so much
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Apr 11, 2014 7:59:44 PM

"If it were up to me I might charge missed days less harshly than go back to zero. It's like the sports writers who say a team has won "five in a row and fifteen out of the last sixteen"."

How do you not, if you missed a day of earning points, no go back to zero? That's not harsh; that's simply saying you no longer have consecutive days. Your sports analogy isn't actually appropriate because here's a difference between consecutive days and X number of days out of a larger number unless you're suggesting (to no be harsh - your word) that Gas Buddy either remove the consecutive days listing in favor of a new listing: This member has earned points X number days out of the past Y number of days. And I could see members complaining what the Y number should be.
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fishwood
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Message Posted: Apr 11, 2014 4:34:08 PM

IIUC = If I understand correctly

If it were up to me I might charge missed days less harshly than go back to zero. It's like the sports writers who say a team has won "five in a row and fifteen out of the last sixteen". But that's just me.

In any case, there's a difference between "I forgot" or "I was too busy" (which could be forgiven or not) and "I had activity but it didn't show up" (not sure how you demonstrate that, that's another problem, but it ought to be corrected.) Intermediate to those is "I couldn't have activity because the system didn't respond".
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maxstar
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Message Posted: Apr 11, 2014 2:29:47 PM

I agree with the comments that altonb1 made. Except for system issues, mulligans should not be given.

Better yet eliminating the consecutive day count all together would be best. There are better ways to track how members participate on the site.

What does IIUC mean?

[Edited by: maxstar at 4/11/2014 2:35:20 PM EST]
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fishwood
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Message Posted: Apr 11, 2014 12:16:07 PM

@scoutmaster But not IIUC vice versa: App is a fine way to earn the daily points (by posting a price) for the speed lines consecutive days count. (As long as it works.)
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Apr 11, 2014 8:51:09 AM

You are correct TxJeans. Consecutive days has nothing to do with the app. To keep your consecutive days you need to do something that earns points (read a news article, post in a forum, post a price).
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fishwood
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Message Posted: Apr 10, 2014 12:30:27 PM

Could be GPS burp, @TxJeans. 10 miles is far in Connecticut, so my actual location is rarely more than 10 miles from the stations I report, and the app is usually in a waiting state when it can't find location or can't communicate with the server; usually I'm doing a drive-by so it is the nearest or second nearest station.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Apr 9, 2014 7:30:04 AM

With the APP awards, don't the prices have to be w/in x number of miles to count for the awards? IDK as I rarely ever look at the awards - and if I do look, it is out of curiosity and not that I care or am trying to reach a new award level. Maybe there was a GPS burp and prices were not seen as posted w/in that limit?

Consecutive days does not require posting from APP or w/in any GPS range.
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fishwood
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2014 11:03:25 PM

If the report had stuck, I wouldn't be having the problem. Are there cases where people had points earned but not consecutive days?
I did notice before this happened that I had more consecutive days (like 200) than my Ironman (25% of a year) would indicate -- and I do almost all entries on the app.

This doesn't work for Commuter afternoons -- I've usually earned my maximum points on the morning, so there's no record. Someone else was asking about a listing of all entries, not just point-earning entries, and there isn't any.

100th post! No longer a rookie! Almost makes up for no longer being a commuting ironman!

[Edited by: fishwood at 4/8/2014 11:07:32 PM EST]
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2014 3:43:59 PM

fishwood, you can check the time and date stamp of participation from your <My Profile> page. There is a <Point Earning History> link near mid page.

If you did indeed report prices, this will provide verifiable evidence and reason for restoring your Ironman award. When you can prove that you have participated, it shouldn't be considered a mulligan.

Hope this helps.

RG

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fishwood
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2014 1:29:25 AM

Me too.
I resolved to give up on Commuter, but I am certain that last Sunday we got a late start, and I muttered about missing Commuter _while_I_was_entering_prices_that_afternoon_. Nevertheless, I've got no points shown for that day at all, so I'm back to 2% on Ironman as well.

And while I was checking (just past 1am) I see the station I pass coming home each day, where I know I entered all 4 grades around 5:40pm (at least I can get Perfectionist) was showing last-updated 14 hours ago, not 8 hours ago.

I'm not asking for a Mulligan (wouldn't mind it, but rules are rules) but it would be nice if actually reported prices counted.
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altonb1
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Message Posted: Apr 5, 2014 10:40:32 PM

Mulligans for consecutive days are crap. I understand that things happen, and sometimes we might forget or be prevented from posting a day here and there. And when that happens, you should reset to 0. Period. By restoring someone's days just removes legitimacy to those that did not. I enjoy checking my rank to see how far I have moved...and to jump up a few spots one day and then the next find I've fallen spots is just not fair. If you are going to restore the consecutive days count even though someone misses a day, then there really isn't a reason to have the consecutive days at all.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Mar 17, 2014 6:54:02 AM

I agree with TxJeans regarding mulligans on the consecutive days issue. If you miss a day you miss a day. No biggie. Now if the site is down, that is different but just missing a day because you forgot or didn't know how consecutive days worked or other member error should no be fixed.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2014 11:14:40 PM

SUVFan, but it seems most of the folks that come here complaining about losing their CD have indeed not posted. Like @babycatt116 that insisted that just logging on was sufficient and was abusive to anyone explaining she had to do POINT EARNING activities each day, or those that want to "freeze" their account while they travel internationally or otherwise go on vacation...Or, Mileena

Animal2U should qualify for a restore if not having previously used his mulligans. Personally, I don't think there should be mulligans for other than website issues, but that is not how it works.

Brindfan

Mileena

It seems there are more problems with the "awards" than CD - and many of those are just not understanding how the awards work when you get into the details.
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SUVFan
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2014 9:03:45 PM

TxJeans, a mechanized "system" that constantly needs manual tweaking to pick up missed consecutive days points to a defect. As others posted early in the thread, it seems like a pretty simple concept. A member either posts sometime during a day or they don't. It seems like a pretty easy thing to get right 100% of the time.

Animal2U, I too am sorry for your loss. That would probably cause me to miss a day, too. Maybe more. Those things are more important than posting here and, in a way, restoring your consecutive day standing under those circumstances might be viewed as a slight to your brother and family members who needed your support far more than gasbuddy needed your posts. Unlike so many who simply forget to post (and I've been within 15 minutes of doing just that), you have a compelling reason why you didn't.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2014 8:28:42 PM

CK -- what defect? We often have posters that think they posted but didn't or missed the cut off, or don't understand the nuances of the various awards. The OP shows his consecutive day streak and stripes.
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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2014 7:46:08 PM

If the system has a defect that is causing this problem, it is important to fix it permanently for the good of all rather than trying to get someone to accept it philosophically.
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Animal2u
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2014 3:17:17 PM

Thanks TxJeans and Scoutmaster...YES it's nothing to get upset about..Things happens....It's the way it happen to me but I missed a day and I'l pay for it...Just have to start again...And yes I don't lose sleep over Gas Buddy. I enjoy posting to help other.
I thank all of you that have respond...I'm going to stop on this days lost..

Thanks Again
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2014 9:57:37 AM

@Animal2U:

I am sorry about your loss. I know that it is a sad time and an emotional time, but it is time to focus on family and friends and not worry about something like Gasbuddy.

I am not surprised they said they are thinking of a "total days posted" -- it fits well with a discussion over on the other board. They seem to have more focus on "awards" and "games" than accuracy and a community helping others.

The thing is, Gas-Buddy should be seen as not a game, but a tool to help find lower priced gas and to help other members to find lower priced gas. It should not be a controller of your life.

My understanding is that Gasbuddy moderators have and will restore consecutive days a max of (3?) days over the life of one's membership for extenuating circumstances. I don't necessarily agree with all the cases they have done (especially when someone had the rules explained and was still losing CD counts and was NASTY back to the membership that explained point earning activities).

But, in the end, I know that a busy and stressful day will come, and I will forget and I will start my CD count over. When it happens, I will have a momentary disappointment, but will then start posting to re-earn my stripes and life will go on. Gasbuddy is not something I will lose sleep over and should take an appropriate level of importance in the bigger picture of life.



[Edited by: TxJeans at 3/16/2014 10:02:26 AM EST]
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2014 6:42:52 AM

OK so you missed a day. Big whoop! It happens. It's really nothing to get all in a tizzy about.
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Animal2u
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2014 1:03:34 AM

First I would like to say THANK YOU...WR-INC and GAS BUDDY... For your input. Yes I understand the consecutive days. What I was trying to point out was that there was a sad day on our family and forgot to post...Something like this happens maybe GB would have understand...
Also got a message from GB that they were thinking of doing a TOTAL DAYS POSTED..so if you posted for 264 days out of 365 days a year...You wouldn't have consecutive days posted but you would have 264 posted days not zero days...Hope you understand what I'm trying to say...Sometime what I say in person is not the same as writing it on paper...But, For years I have enjoyed posting for Gas Buddies to help other find less cost prices on fuel...But most of all I enjoy chatting with other Gas Buddy like the two of you...
Thanks
Animal
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2014 11:56:53 PM

No need for additional awards or points.
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skaboss79
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2014 12:54:02 PM

There should be a reward for ppl posting for 365 consecutive, just saying, some kind of bonus points or reward card for doing a whole year without skipping
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Mar 9, 2014 2:43:09 PM

Animal2u:

"So if you don't post on one day or two in a row you lost two days not all the days...Should be up to us to keep count on our days..."

The first part, if you don't post on a given day, no points earning activities on one full day, "you lost two days not all the days"k, is wrong. If you don't have any points earning activities on any one day, your consecutive streak is is broken because the next day you earn points is not a day consecutive with the previous day you earned points, and you start your new streak of consecutive days from zero days.

Think of it this way: You earn points Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday, you don't earn points on Thursday, and you earn points on Friday and Saturday. As of Saturday, you have two consecutive days of posting.

As for: "Should be up to us to keep count on our days...", if you're saying that you (the member) should be responsible for ensuring that you have posted on consecutive days, you're correct. It's the member's responsibility to ensure that - if the consecutive days "streak" is that important that it should be continual and not interrupted by a non-points earning day - that you do, in fact, make a points earning action day, whether it's a gas price post or simply opening a daily news article. So yes, in that way it is "up to use to keep count on our days." If you're saying that the consecutive days streak should continue and simply not count the non-points days, then no, you're wrong. Consecutive means "in a row", "day after day"; it doesn't mean "how many total times..."

Does that answer your question, or are you saying something else?

[Edited by: Gas_Buddy at 3/9/2014 2:43:27 PM EST]
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WR-INC
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Message Posted: Mar 9, 2014 7:45:32 AM

Animal2u,

Consecutive days means just that. You're confusing this with Gasbuddy age, which is not being taken away just because of missing a day or two.
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Animal2u
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Message Posted: Mar 9, 2014 3:18:48 AM

I lost my days...doing so good. But, too GB it's nothing...I got a call from my Brother in Idaho that our Brother in Texas had passed away...So I drove to Casa Grande to pass the bad news to our sister..with everything that was going on. Calling other family members and making arrargements to meet in Phoenix so we could go Texas...I forgot to post for the day and lost my days...And Yes it's VERY FRUSTRATING. That the only thing I hate about Gasbuddys...The consecutive days...So if you don't post on one day or two in a row you lost two days not all the days...Should be up to us to keep count on our days...I feel like (My get up and go just got up and left) on this consecutive days...Just taking my Frustration out...
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FuelPump
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2014 6:31:10 PM

I was once at just under 2,000 consecutive days, but apparently missed a day somewhere sometime.
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roadkingfl
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Message Posted: Mar 5, 2014 11:32:05 AM

They did restore it yesterday but today it was back to zero consecutive days so I contacted GB again and they reset it for me...thanks for all the helps :)
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fishwood
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2014 4:50:01 PM

Is that web site consecutive days? (I also see 85 for you.) Or Iron Man?

I've got a 230 report streak on the App and in my profile on the web site, but I'm only 25% of the way to IronMan level 4, which would indicate about 91 days. And I had the same thing happen around 91 days ago, called it to the attention of the moderators too. I could see the points, for entries I know I made in the App, but I was back to 0%.
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Scrapheap
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2014 1:12:02 PM

I don't know if the moderators restored it but when I look at your profile, it says 85 consecutive days.
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