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gax

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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2014 11:13:22 AM

I see that yesterday, 1/29/14, that bobmroski from Austin, TX won the $100 in free gas. Congrats to him! That has to be a record to win the drawing on the day you joined up.

Not to take anything away from bobmroski's good fortune, but I am a little confused. Does GB automatically give a prize entry just for signing up? Because bobmroski just joined on 1/29/14 and only has (as of this writing) 100 points TOTAL. I have to spend 1000 points just to get 1 entry. So I am wondering how bobmroski even was able to enter the drawing at all.

[Edited by: gax at 1/30/2014 11:15:03 AM EST]
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2014 12:25:44 AM

Sneaker - the new user gets a free ticket when they sign up...automatically, however there is one winner that said she didn't even enter, and she was way beyond being a new user...

"by dianaymundo Feb 04, 2014

Thank you everyone!!! I didn't even know I had won something until I started to read your messages!!! I'm so grateful! Actually I did not enter my name, but I've been reporting gas a lot lately, it must have been submitted somehow since I've been active, but I've been a member since 2008, I NEVER EVER win anything, so I never enter to any draw, because for me, was a waste of time, but now I realize it's possible to win something, THANK YOU VEGAS GAS PRICES & ALL OF YOU, MY FRIENDS!!"
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Sneakers55
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2014 11:38:15 PM

On Feb 15, 2014 7:40:59 PM, TxJeans wrote:

>First, I am NOT from Ybor City, and I am not a disgruntled poster.
>I was just making an observation that they seem to have made more
>changes to the contest than just changing it from $250 to $100 per
>contest and from weekly to daily.

The T&C's, for some reason, do not mention the ability to get a free ticket every week (when the prize was $250) or every day (when the prize is $100). One time, I saw a contestant get a $250 gift card with only 120 points. The mods explained to me why they were able to win; they used a free ticket.
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Sneakers55
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2014 11:32:20 PM

I don't get out every day, only the days where I have errands to run. And on the days when it's cold and rainy outside, I don't get out until I have to. I did get out on Tuesday, a cold and rainy day, because I had an every three months doctor's appointment. But I would have let her routine blood work slide a day if Wednesday would have been a cold and rainy day. But Wednesday was a cool and sunny day, so I went in and got it over with.

Whether or not I get a ticket from points, I do get a free ticket nearly every day. The days I don't, I've messed up the free ticket.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2014 8:40:59 PM

BP - what is your problem? Hmmm?
First, I am NOT from Ybor City, and I am not a disgruntled poster. I was just making an observation that they seem to have made more changes to the contest than just changing it from $250 to $100 per contest and from weekly to daily.
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buckeyecountry
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2014 3:22:37 PM

If I hit the $330 million Powerball tonight I won't need a gas card....lol
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CelticHeart
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2014 12:28:57 PM

GLM4205 - "I am still waiting to get one>>> I report gas prices and read articles to the max. points allowed but not winning agas card or ticket???"

Still waiting to get what? A gas card? It's a contest, a drawing, a lottery. It's not something you get because you post prices or read articles.
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Bad_Petroleum
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2014 8:02:33 AM

another disgruntled poster:

~Somehow they are able to post winners within seconds - so I don't know why it was taking WEEKS to validate some winners previously.~

TxJeans from Ybor City.
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Bad_Petroleum
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Message Posted: Feb 15, 2014 8:00:36 AM

My motto, one a day keeps debtors away !!!
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Feb 6, 2014 10:23:14 AM

Seems the random drawing has become even more random.
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GLM4205
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Message Posted: Feb 6, 2014 10:21:42 AM

I am still waiting to get one>>> I report gas prices and read articles to the max. points allowed but not winning agas card or ticket???
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Feb 6, 2014 7:18:22 AM

<<<"I see in the "Recent Winners" forum that *dianaymundo* won without even entering. ???">>>

I think Nippor was referencing dianaymundo's white board. And, yeah, I would like an explanation of that.

From T&C:
" As requested by each site member one entry will be issued for each 1000 outstanding GasBuddy points balance. Multiple entries are allowed providing an adequate GasBuddy points balance. All entries become the sole property of GasBuddy/OpenStore, LLC. and none will be returned. "

and

5. Prize Draw: A random drawing will be conducted on a date within 2 weeks of Contest Close Date by GasBuddy/OpenStore, LLC., whose decisions are final. Each entrant selected as a winner must comply with all terms and conditions set forth in these rules and regulations, and winning is dependent upon fulfilling all such requirements. Winners will be notified by email within ten (10) days of the drawing. GasBuddy/OpenStore, LLC. is not responsible for notifications that are misdirected or not received because of email addresses or mailing addresses that are not correct. If a winner cannot be contacted within fourteen (14) days after the first attempt to contact such winner, an alternate entrant will be selected at random from all entries received. If the prize notification is returned as non-deliverable, the winner will be disqualified and another winner selected in the original winner's place. Winners may be required to sign and return an affidavit of eligibility within fourteen (14) days of the first notification attempt. Winners who are located in Canada will be required to answer a time-limited, mathematical skill-testing question, without assistance, to be awarded the prize.

6. Winners List: GasBuddy/OpenStore, LLC. will attempt to post contest winners to the web site within thirty (30) days of contest closing date.

link

And this:
4. Prize: The prize will consist of 1 $100 valued at approximately $100 US. An equal amount of gift certificates or cash payment by check may also be substituted by GasBuddy/OpenStore, LLC. in lieu of the prize

consist of 1 $100 valued at...

Somehow they are able to post winners within seconds - so I don't know why it was taking WEEKS to validate some winners previously.

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Nippor
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2014 11:05:52 PM

I see in the "Recent Winners" forum that *dianaymundo* won without even entering. ??? She says that she didn't buy any tickets, yet "must have won because I've been more active reporting prices recently."

So, she says she didn't buy any tickets. She's been a member since 2008, but has been "more active" recently. If you get a free ticket when you enter the site (back in 2008 for her), how is it that this VERY old ticket was automatically entered recently, without her actively buying any tickets???

Is every member issued one ticket each day, even if they aren't active on the site?

I'm confused!!!
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GoGoGoodyear
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2014 9:43:32 PM


There is probably a legal reason for GB handing out free drawing entries along with those entries obtained by participation on the site. Something to do with laws on gambling. It's also the reason why participating in the free daily gas draw from Canada involves a silly "skills" test where one answers questions like what is 2+3=?
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bytebug
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2014 6:51:51 PM

I've long said that if it were up to me, I'd completely base the drawing on participation. You enter a price, you get an entry. You read a news article, you get an entry. You add a forum post, you get an entry. All entries per prize period are made as each member contributes to the site. In that way, the prize won for each prize period is completely based on a member's participation in a pool of all members contributing during that prize period.
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pilotmass
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2014 3:01:03 PM

I saw that win and commented on it elsewhere.

Not only did he/she get $100 they never even filed any gas reports.

Add in the fact that some 50% of the prizes go to those with less than 10000 points, you begin to wonder....
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2014 4:10:35 PM

My earlier post: "there's little incentive for the "big contributors", those who post multiple gas prices, etc."

Scoutmaster's response: "My incentive is helping others, not chasing prizes."

Larrymarg's response: "Well, my incentive for posting multiple gas prices is to make this a good resource, so lots of other people will also post gas prices, so I'll know where to find the cheapest prices."

My post about "little incentive" wasn't in any way - as many people can tell you - that the primary purpose of this website isn't for posting prices, regardless of points earned (and I've long opposed "more points" and "unlimited posting and getting points" suggestions. If anything, I've been criticized for "strongly suggesting" that members post prices before asking for more from this website, even if it's just to help their fellow area members be more knowledgeable shoppers. My comment was made in conjunction with the affect of "awarding" the daily prize to people that literally "just showed up", the "late arrivals", and get a gas card versus the scoutmasters and LarryMargs - members who Scrapheap accurately called "people who actually contribute to the site" - who contribute both significantly and significantly more than the "just showed ups" and the "late arrivals".

First, I'm here to share information - I get pricing information from others that ends up with me spending less at the gas pump, and I'll continue to accurately post as many prices as I reasonably can to help others be more knowledgeable shoppers, regardless of whether I get points, icons, or gas cards. Second, while I generally didn't remember to enter the weekly drawing let alone enter the daily drawing - and probably have most of my earned points still "in the bank" - it's discouraging to "older members" who've given a damn about helping the next guy and, in the process, maybe winning the gas card, seeing someone who just showed up get rewarded for, essentially, showing up. The "award process" has to be more favorably (if not entirely) balanced towards what Scrapheap called "people who actually contribute to the site." Even if that's not what they're primarily here for.
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2014 7:06:16 AM

Interesting question about the new found efficiency of the daily drawing. I wondered this myself.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2014 6:54:30 AM

"there's little incentive for the "big contributors", those who post multiple gas prices, etc."

My incentive is helping others, not chasing prizes.
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LarryMarg
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2014 1:22:10 AM

"there's little incentive for the "big contributors", those who post multiple gas prices, etc."

Well, my incentive for posting multiple gas prices is to make this a good resource, so lots of other people will also post gas prices, so I'll know where to find the cheapest prices.

Winning the gas card would be a nice perk, but I realize that the odds are against me, so that's certainly not what's keeping me active.

When I see "...people who actually contribute to the site", I generally think about people who post (real) prices, but as you pointed out, it's the number of page hits that keep the lights on; as far as the advertisers are concerned, viewing a "news article" reposted from some half-wit's blog, or counting to infinity in hex, is equally meaningful as posting a bargain price on gasoline or diesel. In that regard, simply entering the draw gives you two page hits, and so counts as contributing to the site.
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Daddioio
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2014 12:21:07 AM

humm
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REKEY
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2014 10:38:28 PM

Good luck to all!
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2014 9:13:10 PM

Gasbuddy, back to my question about how they have changed the drawing. Before we often had winners that were weeks out before being announced. Now, they are announced immediately (so maybe posting their name immediately is working somewhat like the notifications - a visual when they log in). But most of the entries have the specific gas card, and a pic much faster than what we would have seen before. So, are they getting better at getting contact, and are none of these having to go to the "redraw/second chance" that they indicated previously held up the posting of the winner's name?

And, remember the Canadians can't really be validated until they take the "skills" test...

So - if it is incumbent on the winner to come forward and claim the prize, are they just not issuing that prize if the person doesn't come forward, or having another draw?

[Edited by: TxJeans at 2/2/2014 9:12:56 PM EST]
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2014 9:02:54 PM

LarryMarg:

You don't get the "speed wings" that accompany your icon in the profile block in the discussions to indicate you've performed a points action for 90 or more consecutive days. For example, gax (who started this thread) has his "speed wings". However, if you open a person's profile, such as yours, it will show how many consecutive days you've done a "points action". In your case (for example), you don't have 90 day "speed wings" but your profile indicates you've done a "points action" for 56 consecutive days.
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LarryMarg
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2014 7:03:00 PM

GB - as I understand it, you don't get a "consecutive days" indicator until you hit 90 consecutive days, and if you miss one day, it starts over at 0.

I'm a pretty good contributor here, but I don't have that indicator because every so often there's a day when I don't go anywhere and so don't have any prices to post.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2014 4:39:24 PM

TxJeans:

"I am also curious about how they changed the drawing that they can announce a winner immediately when previously it sometimes took weeks..."

It appears that they're doing what other organizations and local drawings are doing when the person entering the drawing includes his/her name and/or contact information on the "drawing ticket". Gas Buddy seems to simply be "pulling the winner", announcing to everyone who the winner is (giving the "winner two chances to learn of the drawing - by reading the "Recent Winners" page and by e-mail, which could default into their "spam" folder).

Then it's incumbent on the winner to come forward and claim the prize. This would relieve Gas Buddy from receiving complaints that "I didn't get an e-mail", regardless of whether the e-mail was lost in the "delivery" (for whatever reason) or the winner not providing up to date contact information. That's speculation on my part but it would seem to make sense.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2014 3:15:08 PM

I am also curious about how they changed the drawing that they can announce a winner immediately when previously it sometimes took weeks...Especially for the Canadian winners that have (according to the T&C I read, unless they changed them since the beginning of January) an extra step to qualify and validate as winner.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2014 2:04:29 PM

As an addendum to Scrapheap's posting: "...a giant loophole that screws people who actually contribute to the site" (which discusses the "free" under-1,000 points ticket), 9 of the 31 January gas card winners have under 16,000 points, 5 of them under 10,000 points, one with 4,600 points and one with 100 points. While there's no obligation to post on this website (Screapheap's words "...contribute to the site"), and I'm sure there are any number of good reasons for not posting, it's interesting that none of the "low point" winners, 16,000 points or fewer, has a "consecutive days" indication.

It's hard to understand how nearly one-third of the winners of the daily drawing can have so few points (yes, I actually do understand the odds and the logic of the drawings) and then seemingly "quit" (maybe a bad choice of word). If the intent of the daily drawing is to attract viewers to the website, viewers who continue to view the website (and the advertisers), rather than attract virtual one-and-doners, those who win early and then leave, maybe there needs to be something of a "minimum" level that needs to be reached before being eligible to win. If there's no great incentive to participate in website activities other than getting a free ticket to win, there's little incentive for the "big contributors", those who post multiple gas prices, etc. (again, Scrapheap's words: "...people who actually contribute to the site") to continue contributing as they have been.

Maybe the question is, does anyone, anyone, believe that any majority of of the low-point winners will continue to "actually contribute to the site"?
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LarryMarg
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2014 11:58:35 AM

Well, let's not keep advertising it, Scrapheap. :-)
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Scrapheap
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2014 4:13:12 PM

Most people are unaware of the loophole bytebug.
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bytebug
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2014 4:02:14 PM

>> Might as well double my chances for free.

Except it doesn't double your chances, as everyone else is doing it as well, so you end up with the same unlikelihood of winning, which is why they probably have done nothing to curtail these 'free' entries...

Or perhaps they just filter out the 'free' entries.
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LarryMarg
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2014 2:27:53 PM

Scrapheap - I've been trying to do the same thing since I noticed the daily "free entry", but I only get on when I have prices to post, and half the time I post the prices before I remember about the free entry, and lose my change for it.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2014 2:27:18 PM

While I may disagree with Scrapheap on some other issues, I can't find any fault with his posts below. If anything, they're absolutely correct.

For those wondering, the least I could was acknowledge the posts and give credit where credit's due.
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Scrapheap
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2014 9:24:22 AM

Not kidding. I try to make sure I redeem my free ticket the first time I log in every morning. Might as well double my chances for free.

[Edited by: Scrapheap at 2/1/2014 9:23:11 AM EST]
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WR-INC
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2014 9:14:41 AM

You've got to be kidding. That means that the points mean nothing as far as the contests go.

I wouldn't know I guess. I've never entered the contest.
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Scrapheap
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2014 8:18:26 AM

If you had less than 1000 points after the last drawing, you can get a free ticket on the website until you earn 1000 unredeemed points. You have to get on the website to redeem the free entry. You can do this every day.

What this essentially means is that anyone can enter the drawing every day without earning any points (staying at 100 points forever). It is a giant loophole that screws people who actually contribute to the site.
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WR-INC
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Message Posted: Feb 1, 2014 6:53:36 AM

DiannaFan,

"You get a free entry if you don't have enough points to "buy" one each time a (n)ew contest start, which is daily now."

Not correct.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2014 9:31:18 PM

Unless I remember incorrectly, you (a new member) receive one ticket automatically upon joining to enter the drawing (I don't remember if you have to actively enter the drawing or if you're automatically entered) and, if you have no points remaining (that is, you used all your points in previous drawings), you are automatically provided a ticket (again, I don't remember if you have to actively enter the drawing or if your "automatic ticket because you have no points" is automatically entered into the next drawing.

Perhaps older members can clarify or correct what I wrote above.

That said, if a member is automatically granted a "ticket" because he/she has no points remaining, it would make sense (unless you want to hold your points for a specific up-coming drawing) to use up all the points you have and "live off" free tickets awarded you by Gas Buddy.

Consider me cynical for a moment, but for a member who just won a gas card with only 100 points it would make sense to simply never post again and to re-join Gas Buddy under a new screen name (be it with a new e-mail address, and perhaps under a family member's name). Actually, that makes sense for any "low point" gas card winning member. It is interesting that the three recent winners, two with under 10,000 points and one with 100 points, have "0" consecutive days of posting (and yes, I realize that it's only been a couple days since winning and that not every member posts every day).

It's one thing for a low point member to win, however it does seem to be a slap in the face of long-time contributors when a 100 point member is eligible for the gas card. If we're going to discuss (in other threads) about how many points a member needs before posting to the discussions or linking website addresses, how can we not consider that there has to be (okay, there SHOULD be) some participation/points activity before being eligible for the gas card. I don't have a suggested points level or membership time frame but I think after seeing a "not-even-one-and-done" winner, the issue deserves some discussion.
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buckeyecountry
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2014 5:56:28 PM

Pretty positive you do get a ticket when you join...period. Points or no points.
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gax
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2014 2:36:23 PM

Wow. Thank you for your gracious response, bytebug. I don't recall me taking anything away from bobmroski's good luck. Sheesh!
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espo85
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2014 2:21:41 PM

Lucky dude. I never win!
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2014 10:46:31 AM

bytebug infers: "...and glad that guarantees that none of you will ever win."

Bad lottery karma then for those not drinking the Kool Aid?
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bytebug
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2014 8:28:31 AM

Really amazing how gracious you all are given another member's good luck, and glad that guarantees that none of you will ever win.
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CelticHeart
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2014 8:03:14 AM

It does smell rather badly that the winner has not posted a single price in three days, much less post a "thank you."
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CelticHeart
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2014 7:48:53 AM

I got it now, gax. I was reading that you just remembered the quarterly. That's what I get for speed reading and using a kindle.

Dianna, you do get a free ticket upon joining.
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AdaBob
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2014 12:44:28 AM

I'm thinking a rule change is due. You can win without ever posting even one price. Isn't that what this site is all about, posting prices so others can save money????
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DiannaFan
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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2014 11:12:26 PM

Celticheart is partially correct. You get a free entry if you don't have enough points to "buy" one each time a few contest start, which is daily now.
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gax
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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2014 11:08:48 PM

CelticHeart, I am not sure why you think I didn't notice the weekly contest. I have entered it many times over the years. Whether I save up my points and spend them on one drawing or spread them out, I have not had too much luck (as in ZERO luck) winning any money. So far.... :)
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CelticHeart
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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2014 9:37:00 PM

Just noticed, gax, you've been here for a bit longer than I. Guess you didn't notice the weekly contest. I saved up a good amount of points and blew them all on the drawing yesterday. That's the kind of luck I have! :)
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gax
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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2014 7:33:35 PM

No one has ever won on the day they joined before now. The quickest before this was warlord1 who won on 5/30/10 after joining 3 days prior on 5/27/10.

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buckeyecountry
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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2014 6:36:23 PM

CelticHeart is correct.

I saw it happen a year or so ago. Exact same thing.
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