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TumaloDodge

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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2013 9:35:35 AM

I've always posted the general price a person can get using a credit card.
Recently Safeway started posting their prices in Oregon that is a cash price, and the credit card price is 10 cents higher. So I started posting the credit card price. However I see that people usually post again with the cash price. What is the general policy here?
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brazilianguy
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2013 8:59:11 AM

cash
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2013 11:05:11 PM

Boy am I glad in my are there are exceptionally few dual priced stations.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2013 8:31:59 PM

driver169 wrote:

"Geez, bugbite, tell me how ya really feel! I've read quite a few of your posts over the years. What makes you feel all high and mighty?"

bytebug may have been blunt, but I don't fell bytebug's comments have been "all high and mighty". The rules of the website, like them or not, are that the cash price, if there's a difference between cash and credit prices, should be the price posted on the website. And the comments section can be used to indicate price differentials if the cash and credit prices aren't the same.

bytebug may have been blunt but bytebug wasn't the one who wrote: "I post credit...My habits haven't changed since. Don't expect 'em to, either." Seems that the person that said they're posting prices the way they want to, regardless of the website's rules, is taking a "high and mighty" attitude. But, that's just my opinion based on what I'm reading.
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driver169
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2013 12:43:45 PM

That's a big part of the issue. Some stations post the higher credit prices, some post the cash prices, some are the same price, either way. One station posts the higher price and has a car wash there. With a wash, gas is cheaper. I can only post what I can see from the road, regardless if it's cash or credit. Some stations ... you never see (or know about) a credit price until you're parked at the pump.
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Kathy2617
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2013 4:25:41 AM

I am new to this site as of 15 minutes ago and live on the west coast. I have been reading the thread re cash/credit with interest because Safeway gas stations in June starting posting their CASH prices on their signs and their 10 cent higher credit prices on the pump with out advertising, (why would they) We have never heard of dual pricing as you are calling it. We are incensed and at least feel they should have been honest and forthright with this new policy.

Don't know what will make everyone on here happy about the posting cash/credit prices...good luck!
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driver169
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2013 8:09:10 PM

Geez, bugbite, tell me how ya really feel! I've read quite a few of your posts over the years. What makes you feel all high and mighty?
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bytebug
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2013 7:39:16 AM

>> I post credit after being chastised for posting the cash price long ago. My habits
>> haven't changed since. Don't expect 'em to, either.

My hope is that you are reported and are banned. It does none of us any good to try to find the cheapest gas when there are people polluting the data.
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2013 5:49:06 AM

Nice that it's consistent. Still, please include the comment line when possible.
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driver169
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2013 4:56:26 AM

The vast majority of other local posters (nearly all) use the credit price, too. That's what the large price signs state, with one exception.
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2013 5:48:19 AM

I hope you at least include a comment identifying your post as the credit price, and the amount of the credit surcharge. (E.g., "-6c cash".)
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driver169
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2013 10:46:54 PM

First it's cash, then it's credit, back to cash.

I post credit after being chastised for posting the cash price long ago. My habits haven't changed since. Don't expect 'em to, either.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2013 7:35:42 AM

Rich - the problem goes beyond just posting credit or cash. In many areas of the country the CREDIT is not posted at the curb for dual priced stations. For this reason, most prices cash unless someone 1) is actually fueling, or 2) is purposely adding the "credit" surcharge based on what it was the last time they actually pulled up to the pump. MOST prices are posted from the BIG SIGN. The BIG sign may not have credit prices and then you get a mix which is worse than just the cash price.

Even when we get price fields for both cash and credit, this issue will still exist to some extent. The credit prices will tend to be more stale except in those areas where both sets of prices are posted at the curb. And with the posting from the APP, there will be those that in the hurry at the light will incorrectly enter the pricing due to the larger number of values to enter during that brief moment.

I have called for something that could be implemented fairly quickly - a DURABLE FLAG to designate such a dual priced station. Then, the BUYER can BEWARE of the potential problem of posted prices.

I currently avoid ALL EXXON, BP and CITGO in my area as they all seem to be dual priced. I am also more likely to avoid a Marathon or Mobile off my normal path as they have a significant number of dual priced stations - though not all.

Fortunately, I can ALWAYS find a station with prices within 0-2 cents of the CASH price at the dual stations --- and that is before applying my 5% PF or SM cash back :-) in my normal local travel. Unfortunately, when I am out of my home town area, I am not as familiar with the dual price practice. I WANT A DURABLE FLAG to indicate these types of stations!

Please PTB at GBO -- Please give us the DURABLE FLAG (at the price level not just in the MSL).
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2013 7:15:27 AM

TumaloDodge,

The majority of people agree with you, most if not all of whom use credit cards to purchase fuel. Credit card users would rather know whether or not a posted price requires cash before they drive to the station and find out the hard way, but this is what GasBuddy has mandated, so in order to be uniform in price reporting, we just have to post the cash price.

Thankfully, nearlly all of the stations along my area of travel do not utilize separate cash and credit prices but I still feel the pain of those who have to deal with this problem.

RG

[Edited by: RichWLIN at 11/4/2013 7:16:37 AM EST]
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2013 4:13:12 AM

TumaloDodge writes,
> in my opinion, this is not consistent with the policy to post prices before discounts

But in someone else's opinion, it's not a high price with an optional discount, but rather a low price with an optional surcharge. (Lawyer-specific language notwithstanding.)
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2013 11:47:21 AM

Cash/Credit is different than discount prices

FAQ
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[Edited by: TxJeans at 11/3/2013 11:48:41 AM EST]
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2013 11:44:20 AM

The faq has changed from cash to credit to cash over the years. No one needs to do anything special to get the cash price other than use cash - no membership, no special card, no special purchase.

Question to you - what is posted on the SIGN at the street curb?

I think a large percentage of the membership would prefer the "credit" price, but in reality, in much of the country they do not post both prices at the big sign where most people post from (how many stations do you pull into the pumps each day vs drive by and see the prices?). In most areas of the country where they post only one set of prices, it tends to be the cash price (though I have heard of some locality where they must post the higher credit price if there is a difference).

In my area we have ~15-20% dual priced stations. They must post a hang tag at the curb sign indicating that the price is for "cash". Most say Cash or XXXX card with XXXX being the brand of the station. And around here many only post the REG price or REG +Diesel on the big sign. And around here, I can usually find a single priced station that has as good of prices as the CASH discounted place.

I have been calling for a DURABLE flag to indicate the dual priced stations as a "buyer beware" warning, and TPTB at GB have indicated they are working on a solution. To that end, they have added an additional checkbox in the MSL to indicate dual priced stations.

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TumaloDodge
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2013 10:48:41 AM

Ok, if that's the policy that's what I'll do.

I must add that in my opinion, this is not consistent with the policy to post prices before discounts. In my area, stations such as Fred Meyer have a standard 3 cent discount. Anyone can get the discount, if you don't have the card they will just give on to you. Yet we have always posted the price "before" the discount. Yet you say on a sign that does not say "cash only" we should post the cash price.

I'll accept your answer for what it is, but I don't see the logic in it.
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2013 10:17:29 AM

The answer to this question is found here.

Post the cash price.
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