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kevinshawnda

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Message Posted: Oct 27, 2013 4:44:33 PM

In the last week we have seen two gas stations that have been BP for as long as I can remember. They are changing to sinclair. Anyone know what is going on there is that a BP decision or is their gas too high or what. Should I be avoiding those stations just wondering what is going on whether it is a BP, Price, or to avoid in because it is going to sinclair?
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borsht
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2013 11:24:20 AM

ARCO is BP
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2013 7:18:09 AM

Bad_Petroleum = Rotesque who was banned.
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Bad_Petroleum
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Message Posted: Nov 4, 2013 5:31:50 AM

By NO means I am gone. I'm still here !!!!

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coflyer
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Message Posted: Nov 1, 2013 11:45:24 PM

BP and Texaco left Colorado eight years ago. Shell took the Texaco stations, and Conoco, Phillips 66, and Sinclair bought up all the old BP stations. BP claimed that it couldn't compete in Colorado because they didn't have the distribution capability that other oil companies have here. I found that puzzling because Standard Oil/Amoco/BP had stations in CO for over 50 years prior to their pull out.
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Byte_Doctor
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Message Posted: Oct 30, 2013 7:13:53 AM

kwzh wrote "I thought it was common for a single delivery truck to service multiple brands. I haven't spotted it myself, but I've heard reports from people who have. "

Many, if not all, delivery trucks have multiple tanks so they could make deliveries to multiple brands if they so desire.

Also, if the brands use the same additive package I could see a partial load from the same tank being delivered to multiple brands. For example, I imagine Speedway and Marathon use the same additive package so a single truck could deliver half its load of each grade to each store without a problem.
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jrsva
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2013 11:59:15 PM

Fuel additives are done by the distributors as BD indicated. There are many reasons for rebranding a station. Two BP stations in my area changed to Sunoco not too long ago. A couple of years ago Texaco pulled out of this area completely; those stations were picked up by a variety of other brands, not by a consistent changeover.
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2013 11:27:30 PM

I thought it was common for a single delivery truck to service multiple brands. I haven't spotted it myself, but I've heard reports from people who have.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2013 7:49:39 PM

"As I understand it. additive packages are done at the distributor as the fuel is pumped into the delivery truck. "

That was my understanding as well.
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2013 7:23:24 PM

kwzh wrote "The gasoline that's delivered to the station is generic; any brand-specific additives are done at the station. "

That's not correct. As I understand it. additive packages are done at the distributor as the fuel is pumped into the delivery truck.
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2013 6:45:06 PM

You mean if I go to the back room of a Shell station, I'll find a bottle of Platformate and an eyedropper? Hmmmmm.
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2013 7:15:55 AM

The gasoline that's delivered to the station is generic; any brand-specific additives are done at the station.
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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2013 12:46:00 PM

I have only seen one Sinclair in Sacramento. What happens if there is only one station in an area? They aren't going to truck in tanks of gas from some other area, so is it really Sinclair gas or just whatever is available from the local distributing yards? In other words, it might not be a dino in your tank, but a tiger or some other marketing mascot, so the brand is really irrelevant.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Oct 27, 2013 9:30:55 PM

To add to what Gas_Buddy said, it may be that the two stations were part of a franchise with the same ownership and were sold or changed branding and they changed both of their stations.

Again, you probably can find out more by talking to the owners and asking around in the local forum.
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Message Posted: Oct 27, 2013 9:20:51 PM

kevinshawnda:

While it may not seem frequent, it's not unusual for gas stations to change their branding when their franchise agreement expires. It's simply a matter of economics; if they can get more benefits from re-branding (lower delivery fees, unscheduled delivery options, advertising and/or station support, among other benefits) or if they can re-brand and pay lower franchise fees than they current pay, it may be worth the station owner/operator re-branding, especially if it's in an area where brand consciousness is less important to the customer base than price.

It's also not unusual for companies such as BP, Sinclair, Exxon-Mobil, Texaco, etc., to change their distribution areas for any number of reasons, including ease of distribution, support to stations, and simple marketing ability.

But, as this thread is for "talk to the moderators", and your shopping is based on what you think is important, I doubt that the moderators will suggest that you shop at or avoid BP and the moderators will themselves avoid suggesting that you avoid those stations because they are changing to Sinclair.

What you might want to do is simply ask the gas stations what's happening and why they're making/have made a branding change.

And, of course, post the gas prices for those stations, regardless of brand, in order to help your fellow Minnesota Gas Buddy members be more knowledgeable shoppers.


[Edited by: Gas_Buddy at 10/27/2013 9:21:44 PM EST]
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Oct 27, 2013 7:00:23 PM

Ditto to what TxJeans posted. There are no Sinclairs here and none of the BP's are closing.

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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Oct 27, 2013 6:22:46 PM

Probably a better question in the General Gas or your local forum. I haven't seen any BPs going away near me. I haven't seen a "Sinclair" in years - don't have them around here.
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