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CampKohler

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Message Posted: Sep 1, 2013 12:48:51 AM

One or twice a day I see a station on the list of stations sorted by distance that shows dashes for a price. I prepare to enter all the prices, but when I pull up the station, all the prices are there and just need to be reposted. If the app managed to receive all the prices of the other stations for the list, why did it miss the one showing dashes? Anyone else see this?

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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Sep 9, 2013 12:35:17 AM

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Message Posted: Sep 8, 2013 7:08:39 PM

byetbug wrote > Dashes is not the same as blank. Dashes means "unknown" in that the server has not (yet) responded to a price query.

Well what is a blank then? Are there times on the iPhone app when there is a blank (i.e. no price or dashes)?
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Message Posted: Sep 8, 2013 2:57:34 PM

>> seeing dashes (aka "blank", in this context)

Dashes is not the same as blank. Dashes means "unknown" in that the server has not (yet) responded to a price query.
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2013 8:10:38 PM

kwzh, you realize trying to use logic and reason with scoutmaster where CK is concerned is a waste of time, right?

All we can hope for is, well, silence from all parties involved in this continual fracas.
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Message Posted: Sep 6, 2013 10:31:36 PM

scoutmaster, if CK is seeing dashes (aka "blank", in this context) the first time, and a price the second time, surely one of them is a bug? Either the first time should have shown prices, or the second time should have continued to come up blank, no?

If it's true that the price entry was so recent that it should not have aged out, then it sounds to me as though Don's explanation doesn't cover the current situation, and it is indeed a bug of some sort.
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Message Posted: Sep 5, 2013 10:27:10 PM

CampKohler,

There is no problem other than your total lack of understanding of how things work.
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Message Posted: Sep 5, 2013 10:21:15 PM

At the times that I have noticed this problem, the station in question had been reported by me the day before or only a few hours previously, so it would not be aged out of the system.

If it was a cache problem, it would seem unlikely that simply reloading the list would cause the price to show in the list when nothing was done other than touching RELOAD. (But that's just guess.)

>> ...flagged for review...." If there is some way to flag prices, I could understand that they might not show up in the list, but how would they get "unflagged" by simply reloading the list?

>> "...closing/hard closing the app and reopening it SHOULD resolve that kind of problem." If simply touching RELOAD fixes it, I don't think this will be of any help unless, Don, you are meaning that it will prevent it from happening at some future date, say, by cleaning up something that is hung in the app.

In summary, while there obviously has been some effort put forth to think about this problem, none of the "usual suspects" furnished seem to fit the exact circumstances. The key characteristic of the problem is that it is temporary, that is, it shows up on the first loading of the list, but not reloadings. What could cause that? It would be helpful to have a programmer provide a list (which surely is fairly short) of all the circumstances that are intended to produce dashes, to allow comparison with those of the problem. If none match, then there must be a logic problem (race condition, etc.).
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Message Posted: Sep 5, 2013 6:20:34 AM

Great explanation Don. Thanks.

So a false blank price is a misnomer!
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Message Posted: Sep 5, 2013 5:13:14 AM

Thanks kwzh. Yup that is what I read!
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Message Posted: Sep 5, 2013 3:54:30 AM

TxJeans writes,
> But, yes, I noticed the extra "to" in Scoutmaster's first response."

scoutmaster writes,
> Where?

As noted, it's in your first response -- which will be pushed onto page 2 when I post this. The word "to" appears exactly once in your message, and references a phrase that originally did not have that word; both are syntactically correct, but it changed the meaning.

To be precise, CK was talking about "pulling up the station", which is done by tapping something on the app, but you misread it as "pulling up TO the station", which is something done in a vehicle.
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Message Posted: Sep 4, 2013 10:22:33 PM

>> I could see a lapse in cellular data or non-refreshed cached data exhibiting this kind of problem

This is what I've seen to cause the dashes. If you are in a bad spot signal-wise, I've seen dashes displayed before the app gets the prices sent to it, at which point the prices fill in.
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Message Posted: Sep 4, 2013 8:45:49 PM

Thank you Don, for your explanation.
Sorry for any discourse this thread took.
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Don
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Message Posted: Sep 4, 2013 3:21:12 PM

Dashes ("--") indicate a price hasn't been reported for a station in quite awhile. Listed prices are removed after a period of time (the amount of time varying from area to area, based on how many prices are typically being reported) to avoid showing old/inaccurate info.

If you're seeing dashes in the list, with prices being shown on the station details page, this could very well be because the price expired from the list but remains on the station details page. This in itself is not a bug and is not a problem because this would be happening by design (why the prices remain on the station details page, is because this indicates the station has been active in the last X hours but clearly the station requires more user input).

Eventually the "--" and the station itself would expire entirely from the list if the station does not see any user in put at all - the amount of time it takes for this to occur is also variable.

If you're seeing recently reported prices on the station details page (remembering that there is a variance in what "recent" can be considered) but the list is showing "--", I've a hunch that occurs when prices have been automatically flagged for review (another way to look at this could be "in queue") and would need to be checked - this makes sense if there's recently reported prices that have been selected for manual revision and hidden from display until given a full green light.

Sometimes we get complaints from users about all the prices showing as "--" or all showing as being reported "a moment ago" because of the user's device date/time settings.

I could see a lapse in cellular data or non-refreshed cached data exhibiting this kind of problem, in most cases force closing/hard closing the app and reopening it SHOULD resolve that kind of problem.

All of you, please reduce the amount of bickering amongst yourselves. If you cannot handle seeing one another in the forums, politely use the Ignore Member feature.

Retired-Coastie, you can use the Report Abuse link to suggest a topic be reviewed. Members will usually utilize that tool when they feel a topic heads too far south and should be closed down to prevent any further negative discourse between members.

-Don

[Edited by: Don at 9/4/2013 3:24:26 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Sep 4, 2013 9:15:30 AM

So How do you contact a Mod? to lock a topic? This one has turned into a witch hunt.
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Message Posted: Sep 4, 2013 8:57:31 AM

TxJeans wrote > You seem to follow a bunch of people around with your hall monitoring.

How ironic coming from the stalker who follows CK around trying to pick apart every nuance in everything he says. If you take time to notice, I take control freaks who try to limit others ability to post to task.

You have a personal issue with CK. I doubt you would behave remotely in this manner if anyone else had started this thread and said the things he said in the way he said them. It is a pity that you can't see your faults in this matter. I think many of us respect your thoughts on many other issues but when it comes to CK, you align yourself with some rather unsavory individuals, and this diminishes your reputation.
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Message Posted: Sep 4, 2013 8:16:44 AM

"But, yes, I noticed the extra "to" in Scoutmaster's first response."

Where?

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Message Posted: Sep 4, 2013 7:58:15 AM

kwzh - Funny that Scrapheap attacked me when I actually said that although in MY opinion much of CK's posts are not very concise, baiting or of poor humor, that this one might actually be a real issue. But, yes, I noticed the extra "to" in Scoutmaster's first response.

CK's responses to the thread have been like pulling teeth.

The second post - the one after the SM one you say threw you off was by his buddy ByteDoctor:

"CK, I see the same thing upon occasion - and when I looked more closely, I noticed I've only seen it for prices that have gone stale - that is, they are too old to show on the price list. For some reason, the iOS app still shows the old prices int he price entry screen even though it doesn't show the price on the main price list. "

Sounded pretty clear then. GONE STALE. Makes sense to me.

But, CK responded to Bytebug with this remark:
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BB: Their is a real problem if the list shows dashes for a price that is indeed in the system. Now we could SAY there is no problem and ask that every blank price be touched by every user in order to confirm that the price is indeed blank, but that would be silly. If the price is blank (dashes showing) in the price list, then it should really be blank. "

This is the typical "trying to be a humorous or whatever" remark, but is just plain waste of words. AND, he didn't correct the fact that ByteDOCTOR said that the prices were aged. He DID respond to questions DIRECTLY and said it only happens infrequently to him but that prices rarely go stale by him. He said he would watch to see if it happened as he hasn't watched too closely (doesn't seem to bother him much).

Even you kwzh asked "I'm not familiar with the app, so I don't know the conditions under which it shows "blank" vs "dashes". CampKohler, you say you've seen the dashes replaced by numbers when you're at the station -- when that happens, how old is that price?"

It wasn't until after my summary that CK dissed anyone that could not follow the details of his problem, on SEP 3 that he said:
"When that station is touched, on the next displayed page, i.e. the station detail, all the prices for the station show normally; none are OLD nor missing."

Scrapheap said:"Seems to some of us that CK's original question was clear enough. He got a plausible answer from BD"
Yet there have been questions directed to CK for clarification by both ByteDoctor and yourself, and ByteDoctor's original response does not fit with CK's response once pushed to word things more clearly.

I don't know if CK's mind just is going in too many directions, or if he is intentionally obtuse in some of his threads he starts, but we had the recent one about the favorites list where he was called out for leaving some of what he was doing to make the problem appear out of the original post. He was also told that his way of stating something was a "less polite" way. I think Don (or CC?) was trying to politely suggest that CK put a little more thought into SOME of the things he types.

So -- Bytedoctor - it was not just BB, SM and me that he was ignoring.

"If he doesn't respond to SM, who routinely baits him and others, Bytebug, who violated the TOS twice with her petty name calling, or you, who stalks him and has some sort of need to control what he says and how he says it, well I for one can't blame him. Why should he waste his time when it is unlikely that anything he says will satisfy any of the three of you?"



[Edited by: TxJeans at 9/4/2013 8:00:33 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Sep 4, 2013 7:21:39 AM

Who posted that Byte_Doctor?
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"If he doesn't respond to SM, who routinely baits him and others, Bytebug, who violated the TOS twice with her petty name calling, or you, who stalks him and has some sort of need to control what he says and how he says it, well I for one can't blame him. Why should he waste his time when it is unlikely that anything he says will satisfy any of the three of you?"

^^^ This.
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Message Posted: Sep 4, 2013 5:12:29 AM

"TxJeans, you're right, it was scoutmaster's misquote that threw me off. CK's original wording was clear on the point in question."

What misquote are you referring to kwzh?
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Message Posted: Sep 4, 2013 12:18:55 AM

TxJeans, you're right, it was scoutmaster's misquote that threw me off. CK's original wording was clear on the point in question.
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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2013 10:39:10 PM

Scrapheap - Bytedoctor said it was aged prices. CK did not correct that misconception.
You seem to follow a bunch of people around with your hall monitoring.
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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2013 9:27:06 PM

TxJeans wrote > Why? Maybe because CK always tends to wind a tale and agin never directly answered some questions?

Seems to some of us that CK's original question was clear enough. He got a plausible answer from BD. If he doesn't respond to SM, who routinely baits him and others, Bytebug, who violated the TOS twice with her petty name calling, or you, who stalks him and has some sort of need to control what he says and how he says it, well I for one can't blame him. Why should he waste his time when it is unlikely that anything he says will satisfy any of the three of you?
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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2013 9:01:52 PM

Gas_Buddy "It doesn't matter why some people are having such a hard time understanding this but apparently what you wrote is confusing or misleading to some of those who are trying to help you."

Why? Maybe because CK always tends to wind a tale and agin never directly answered some questions?

Way back in the thread, Bytedoctor said "CK, I see the same thing upon occasion - and when I looked more closely, I noticed I've only seen it for prices that have gone stale - that is, they are too old to show on the price list. For some reason, the iOS app still shows the old prices int he price entry screen even though it doesn't show the price on the main price list. " But it wasn't until today that CK clarified the age of the prices in question.

Or, maybe because they have developed a mistrust of how CK presents the facts based on past history (especially the one where Don one of the PTB came right out and said that it might be better if CK be more direct in posing his issues).

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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2013 8:55:05 PM

"So BD-how frequently do you see this happen?"

Rarely, but in my area it is rare for a station's price to get stale. I cannot recall seeing it happen under any other circumstance, but I also don't look too closely - if the price shows on the entry screen and is current, I tap it to refresh it, and if not, I update it to the new price, and then submit the price.

I'll keep an eye on it and watch more closely the next time I see it happen.
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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2013 8:46:03 PM

CampKohler:

"I don't know why some people are have such a hard time understanding this."

It doesn't matter why some people are having such a hard time understanding this but apparently what you wrote is confusing or misleading to some of those who are trying to help you. Better to have to make a "less hard time" with a "second time around explanation" for those that are having a hard time understanding this.

Maybe I'm naive because I don't understand how cache works, what sits in memory or why reloads are necessary so don't see it being a significant distraction or inconvenience to "reload" or refresh (and I do understand your points of expediency, etc.) but if all anyone wants or needs, in order to help you and respond accordingly, I'd simply bite the bullet and make is "less hard".

On that note, I'll wait for the moderators......
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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2013 3:12:30 PM

CK - Are you reporting prices between the time you open the station details page (where you would report prices) and the second search?
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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2013 2:47:23 PM

"I don't know why some people are have such a hard time understanding this. When you open the app and touch Find Gas Prices Near Me, the resulting list may have one station that show dashes (what I have called blank, meaning no price shows). When that station is touched, on the next displayed page, i.e. the station detail, all the prices for the station show normally; none are OLD nor missing. Thus the prices were all in the system and one should have shown in the list, but did not. That's the problem."

Refresh after you open the app. That should solve this issue.

If you would have worded this so normal people would have been able to understand it, CampKohler, the answer would have been easy. And this has been asked and answered in the past.
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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2013 2:36:20 PM

I don't know why some people are have such a hard time understanding this. When you open the app and touch Find Gas Prices Near Me, the resulting list may have one station that show dashes (what I have called blank, meaning no price shows). When that station is touched, on the next displayed page, i.e. the station detail, all the prices for the station show normally; none are OLD nor missing. Thus the prices were all in the system and one should have shown in the list, but did not. That's the problem.

If the search is repeated, the station prices show normally, which is what should have happened on the first search. So why does it intermittently fail on the first search for just one station, but none of all the other stations on the list. And can this problem be fixed?

I would be delighted if a moderator could tell us why this happens and what the solution might be. Perhaps he could tell us under what conditions (other than there being no non-OLD prices in the system for the station) dashes would be displayed, such as, say, a communications error occurring as that station's price is being sent. If dashes are displayed ONLY when OLD or no prices are in the system, then the mystery deepens.

[Edited by: CampKohler at 9/3/2013 2:37:35 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2013 10:59:45 AM

Very nicely put TxJeans.

I'm not sure there even is a problem!
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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2013 10:32:10 AM

TxJeans pretty much summed it up. Maybe discussion can stop until CampKohler clarifies the issue so its better understood or until the moderators provide some input.

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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2013 8:16:26 AM

CK said "One or twice a day I see a station on the list of stations sorted by distance that shows dashes for a price. I prepare to enter all the prices, but when I pull up the station, all the prices are there and just need to be reposted. If the app managed to receive all the prices of the other stations for the list, why did it miss the one showing dashes? Anyone else see this?"

Once or twice a day - how far apart - one station, multiple stations at each occurrence, or maybe it is just the iOS not loading all the data (which could be a result of his phone connection, not just the software/app)? Is see something similar with other software I use when the network gets congested.

This is an example of the OP trying to be "cute/funny/creative/silly" (or whatever you want to call it with his wording:

"Now we could SAY there is no problem and ask that every blank price be touched by every user in order to confirm that the price is indeed blank, but that would be silly. If the price is blank (dashes showing) in the price list, then it should really be blank."

So far we have had a few folks indicate that they have seen something that appears to be what the OP is describing on "occasion":

Bytedoctor: "CK, I see the same thing upon occasion - and when I looked more closely, I noticed I've only seen it for prices that have gone stale - that is, they are too old to show on the price list. For some reason, the iOS app still shows the old prices int he price entry screen even though it doesn't show the price on the main price list. "

One explanation that maybe Don or CC can confirm/clarify.

Neither BD or CK have indicated just how old the prices were on the in the APP that are not showing on the main price list. And apparently it seems to happen a more to CK. So BD-how frequently do you see this happen?

CK stated "Well. it's not a killer for reporting, but it would remove one station from the list of someone searching for prices. I wonder if it is something that could fixed. "

If they are too old to show on the price list, as bytedoctor said, then it should not be much to worry about as the initial dashes are then an indication for the aged prices. Does the time posted show for both the list and when you "pull up the station" on the iOS?

kwzh asked "'m not familiar with the app, so I don't know the conditions under which it shows "blank" vs "dashes". CampKohler, you say you've seen the dashes replaced by numbers when you're at the station -- when that happens, how old is that price?"

I didn't see the answer to this question,

I also don't *think* that CK meant it changed when "at the station" (as in pulled up to the station) but that it was when he pulled up the station. I think I saw one mis-quote indicating by Scoutmaster "When you pull up to the station all the prices are where? On the pumps? On your phone?"

From what discussion there has been, I have several conclusions:
1 - CK is again not being clear and direct in describing his problem and answering the questions.
2 - It doesn't seem to be a major problem for most and for some reason CK sees it more often.
3- So far, it seems to be only reported for the iOS.
4- We seem to have a lot more complaints of problems and lacking functionality from the iOS users.

Hopefully Don or CC can make sense of what CK is saying and explain why it happens.

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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2013 8:07:25 AM

>> That would be great except no one is sure what CampKohler is asking.

Let me translate the question… it's as if the OP asked "I noticed that the sun came up in the east. Is the sun really supposed to come up in the east?" To which another member replied, "Yes! I can confirm your observation that the sun came up in the east, and I, too, don't really understand whether that is correct."
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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2013 6:56:37 AM

"Seems to me that scoutmaster and bytebug are the ones trolling here. If you don't understand the problem, ask for a clarification rather than asking for the OP to be censored."

Did you read my 1st post in the topic, kwzh? I did ask for clarification. Never got any.

"And then maybe we can get on with what CampKohler's asking about, instead of bickering."

That would be great except no one is sure what CampKohler is asking. Or is he baiting again?
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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2013 12:53:01 AM

I think the issue, for this topic, is that CampKohler's wording is less then clear.

He first wrote: "...I see a station on the list of stations sorted by distance that shows dashes for a price. I prepare to enter all the prices, but when I pull up the station, all the prices are there and just need to be reposted."

That makes it seem as if there were no prices listed (for whatever reason) and then when he arrived at the gas station the prices "reloaded" and were visible. But I'm not sure if that's what he actually meant to say.

Adding to the confusion is his saying "If the app managed to receive all the prices of the other stations for the list, why did it miss the one showing dashes?" That makes it seem as if he's comparing price postings for other stations versus the station he's pulling up to. If that's the case, that's an entirely different issue because there easily could be prices posted for one station but not an adjacent station (i.e., not every member will post prices for a station just because it's next to a station for which they are posting prices).

Adding to the confusion (in my opinion) is CampKohler's follow-up, in which he says "If you break it down like that, then there is a difference." That seems to concede that there could be misunderstanding about what was originally said. He goes on to say "...I used the two words together—false blank—meaning it shows blank, but it is not, so it is a false blank."

The phrase "false blank" just seems confusing. While he may have meant to say, in fewer words, "the price entry box had dashes instead of price that should not have been (apparently) automatically deleted" (or whatever else he meant to say). Maybe the solution is to say what can be easily understood without having to read into what's meant by "short-cutting" the explanation. (Yes, I know I suggest that abbreviations, especially those made up by the member but "should be understood", be spelled out, but maybe in this case the original post can simply be rewritten.

And then maybe we can get on with what CampKohler's asking about, instead of bickering.

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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2013 12:51:32 AM

>> He asked a question and brought a bug, verified by another member,to their attention.

Again, not understanding how something works is not a bug. Just because another member verified the entirely appropriate behavior of the app doesn't make the original report of a bug any more legitimate. This fellow has cried "wolf" entirely much too often.

[Edited by: bytebug at 9/3/2013 12:52:53 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2013 12:14:22 AM

What do you think "in this case" means?

You are the hypocrite because at least my post related to the OPs post where yours was just complaining about a post that you felt didn't add anything you felt pertinent.

And, yes, CK has used poor humor, and CK has been called out by the PTB on using "less polite" wording, and not coming straight out with his question but holding back part of the information to leave folks guessing.
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Message Posted: Sep 3, 2013 12:13:49 AM

bytebug wrote > Not understanding how something works is not a legitimate issue.

Actually, that is an entirely legitimate issue for this forum. The forum is Talk Back to Us. The subtitle says 'Ask us a question a question or bring something to our attention." He asked a question and brought a bug, verified by another member,to their attention.
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2013 11:45:40 PM

Well I'm not the hypocrite gainsaying the OP in a thread that you yourself said "In this case, there may be a real problem".
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2013 11:11:50 PM

....says one of the biggest wannabe mods on the boards.
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2013 11:04:19 PM

>> I'm not familiar with the app, so I don't know…

…that the issue raised is absolutely bogus. Anyone who has used the app would realize that it is working (properly) as designed.

>> Blank might mean the station is closed

Blank means that there is no recent price entered. It might mean the station is closed, but more likely it means that nobody has entered a price within the current reporting period.

>> false blank—meaning it shows blank

No, you said that it showed dashes. Dashes have a distinctly different meaning than blanks.

>> attacking the OP when he brings up a legitimate issue

Not understanding how something works is not a legitimate issue. The OP has repeatedly posted bogus "problems", at times even making them up by Photoshopping screen captures, and maintaining a Wiki of "problems" that the moderators have said they do not endorse or support.

[Edited by: bytebug at 9/2/2013 11:11:37 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2013 10:57:53 PM

I'm not sure how me putting you on ignore will stop you and the other wannabe mods from repeatedly targeting and attacking the OP when he brings up a legitimate issue that has been verified by other members.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2013 8:57:40 PM

SH - here is a solution -- YOU can put ME on ignore.
Problem solved.
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Champion Author Virginia

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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2013 8:40:02 PM

TxJeans wrote > In this case, there may be a real problem

In which case perhaps you should say nothing if you have nothing of substance to add to the issue the OP raised. Or perhaps you should put the OP on ignore if you can not prevent yourself from actually adding to the subject of the thread.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2013 3:13:17 PM

"However, I used the two words together—false blank—meaning it shows blank, but it is not, so it is a false blank. I hope that clears that up."

If it shows blank but is not, then what is it?
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2013 2:48:07 PM

Seems to me that scoutmaster and bytebug are the ones trolling here. If you don't understand the problem, ask for a clarification rather than asking for the OP to be censored.

I'm not familiar with the app, so I don't know the conditions under which it shows "blank" vs "dashes". CampKohler, you say you've seen the dashes replaced by numbers when you're at the station -- when that happens, how old is that price?
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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2013 12:40:38 PM

z: If you break it down like that, then there is a difference. However, I used the two words together—false blank—meaning it shows blank, but it is not, so it is a false blank. I hope that clears that up.

BB: Their is a real problem if the list shows dashes for a price that is indeed in the system. Now we could SAY there is no problem and ask that every blank price be touched by every user in order to confirm that the price is indeed blank, but that would be silly. If the price is blank (dashes showing) in the price list, then it should really be blank.
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ziyulu
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2013 10:59:23 AM

There's a difference between a blank and a false price. Blank might mean the station is closed or no one reported a price. A false price is one that is not true.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2013 8:09:35 AM

I'm still wondering what false blank prices are. A dash on the app means no recent price has been reported for the station. There is nothing wrong with that and in no way is this a false price.

bytebug is correct about the OP And TxJeans is right on the money about the OP.

Time to lock this topic down since the premise blank prices are false isn't accurate.

Moderators, please consider limiting the OP's ability to start topics.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2013 7:52:17 AM

"The OP is a troll. There is no real problem, except in the mind of the poster, who has made up or misstated "problems" in the past. "

Even management recently called the OP out for posing a question in a manner that would generate discourse amongst those that routinely post here when the OP intentionally w/held information. The OP has routinely used crude humor based on other's tragedies (storm victims, etc.).

But, bytebug, we will be criticized for such statements by the OP's pit bulls.

In this case, there may be a real problem, but the OP likes to find every little mole hill and make it into a mountain. He seems to look for things to complain about so, maybe he should spend less time creating his "anything suggested sticks" wiki and start programming his own competitive site ;-) After all, he as lots of information in his wiki to make the "perfect" site. ;-)
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