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tenasha12

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Message Posted: Aug 24, 2013 8:42:02 PM

Is it fair that people from other Cities and Countries other than where you live go too your city and repost a Gas Price??? Especially when this price came directly to your own email address
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Aug 29, 2013 6:43:48 AM

Good point kwzh and that is just another reason to lock this topic.

Also, smugutu1234 reported again.
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Aug 29, 2013 5:34:50 AM

Since every post from tenasha12 so far has been confusingly worded (possibly based on a mistaken assumption that we all already know about whatever service she's talking about), it's hard to guess whether Don's answer is complete. However, if she doesn't come back to clarify, we can just stop responding to each other and let this topic age out of visibility all by itself.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2013 9:26:57 PM

Gas_Buddy,

Yes for me.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2013 9:26:44 PM

A couple of things...Don's first paragraph is great, but after listing the link to the FAQ, the next two paragraphs could be misinterpreted by those that "choose" to misinterpret them to continue their incorrect posting or are ESL.
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Done said "If you're receiving emails about pricing for an area that you are nowhere near, even if it's directly from a company, you should not be posting those prices."
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While true, you should also not be posting from those emails for an area you are NEAR unless you confirm that price by seeing it at the station's own street sign or pumps.
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Don said "There are no rules set in place to prevent people from posting prices outside of their locale."

That is not well worded in my opinion, because there are rules to prevent people from posting outside their locale -- the "PHYSICALLY SEE". ;-)
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I hope that Don has communicated this to the OP because we are not sure the OP is still reading the board. She was writing to my WB, but has not acknowledged the information provided. So, if Don did not communicate to this member, it might be good to let it age off on it's own.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2013 8:43:12 PM

Is there a consensus that, because the moderators have provided a definitive response to the original post (and in response to subsequent discussion) that no further discussion is necessary and that this thread can be can be closed?

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Don
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2013 6:23:35 PM

Users should only post prices that they have physically seen and confirmed for themselves. Reporting prices from a forwarded email message does not count, if you haven't seen the prices yourself, you should not post them.

Here is a link to a related FAQ

If you're receiving emails about pricing for an area that you are nowhere near, even if it's directly from a company, you should not be posting those prices.

By chance, if you're referring to if it's alright for people to post prices outside of their own geographic region, your password and username can be used on all GasBuddy websites and mobile applications. There are no rules set in place to prevent people from posting prices outside of their locale.

-Don
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smugutu1234
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2013 6:02:02 PM

Why not
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ziyulu
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2013 10:38:44 AM

Why? Foreigners have equal rights as people from home. Do stores charge different prices for foreigners? No.

[Edited by: ziyulu at 8/28/2013 10:39:23 AM EST]
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2013 7:50:45 AM

More:DOMO - interesting - previous id w/out the 12

Message Posted: Oct 8, 2012 6:53:48 AM
tenasha

If anyone purchases Gasoline from Domo you must go to their site and sign up then you are going to receive an email as to which Domo is having a dischounted price far below anyother

Also: The domo on marion and turenne in winnipeg is undergoing renovations and it is closed someone posted 116.5 incorrect i have been in contact with domo

So, from reading her posts, apparently there are several major chains/gas companies where you can subscribe to get pricing. Still not something you should be posting to GB according to the rules as I understand them, and doesn't explain her "other poster" part of the post.
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Did they extend the edit time?


[Edited by: TxJeans at 8/28/2013 7:57:37 AM EST]
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2013 7:40:51 AM

Good question GoGo - Apparently she wrote on at least 1 other whiteboard besides mine. I was responding on the thread, and she kept responding on my whiteboard so I think she is/was reading the thread.

I just wrote on her WB and asked her to come back and clarify.

I also had to contact the PTB about a different issue and tagged a PS on to that requesting that they look at this thread so maybe they can clarify or ask her questions as well.

Posting from some email subscription on pricing to GasBuddy would be against the intent of "visually recording the price for yourself".

As to the other person posting from "her email" I have no clue, but if that person did not "visually recording the price" they also are against the FAQ.

Interesting - must have changed her name or started a second IDforum

[Edited by: TxJeans at 8/28/2013 7:46:19 AM EST]
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GoGoGoodyear
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2013 1:40:52 AM


tenasha12's additional info is just adding more confusion.

"theses prices are not against rules, in
fact they advise I that I may post to
Winnipeg gas stations..."

I wonder if it's the opposite of what we understand; e.g. that tenasha12 is receiving email updates and/or posting price updates (possibly by email) at somewhere other than GB?

"These emails are legitimate I receive
emails from others saying thank you for
the heads up..."

This adds to the confusion since GB members can't email each other via GB. It's also highly unlikely (but not impossible) that any GB member would contact another member to thank them for updating prices.

And WHY is tenasha12 answering our questions by way of TxJeans' WB instead of returning here to this discussion that tenasha12 started?!
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2013 7:53:19 PM

Here are the updates from my Tenesha from my white board....
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"theses prices are not against rules, in fact they advise I that I may post to Winnipeg gas stations this company always has sales did not answer question I have done nothing incorrect"
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What? Unless this is something from GASBUDDY.COM, the retailer cannot give permission to post to Gasbuddy, unless in Canada the rules are different.
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"Absolutely live in ontario re-post in 21 hours. These emails are legitimate I receive emails from others saying thank you for the heads up. My gasoline is supplied from this one and only one place when I post it people repost it afterwards as an update and these are people from Winnipeg who have been filled"
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I haven't a clue what she means by these are legitimate - they may be legitimate notices of sales, but I don't see how the posting of these prices fits with the FAQs -- and statements by Don and other GasBuddy.com PTB about prices being VISUALLY confirmed. I don't think they mean visually confirmed in an EMAIL, but at the STATION.
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She can post SALE notices in the FORUM, but not as prices.
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Anyone from Canada that can explain the price controls in Canada and if it somehow plays into what Tenesha is trying to say??
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2013 4:27:51 PM

You are not supposed to post prices that come to your e-mail. You are only supposed to post prices that you see yourself. People from other countries (US) and cities may post your local Manitoba prices if they are in town and actually see the prices.

Fair has nothing to do with it.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2013 7:39:03 PM

Not knowing what part of Manitoba the other member is posting for (i.e., how close to the border), or from what province they're posting (I assume it's from a neighboring province), it might be that the other member did (in fact) see the price but didn't update the price until the end of the trip/end of the travel but didn't update the Time Spotted option. (That is, the other member might have seen the price at 8 a.m. but didn't update the price for several hours, at the conclusion of the trip).

Also, is it possible that the other member is, in fact, still travelling in the area of the gas station being reported? What wasn't said in t he original post is if this is an isolated incident or a regularly occurring incident. The reason I suggest this is, from a personal perspective, while I'm a Maryland Gas Buddy member, I routinely post prices for the Southern Georgia/Northern Florida area because of my travel; it's not uncommon for me to post Florida prices for an extended period (without anyone in Florida/Georgia questioning my posting).

As for posting prices based off of e-mail, the posting guidelines (listed in the Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) section reads: "...in no event shall a member post a price from an online source or via telephone without visually recording the price for yourself." That seems pretty self-explanatory.

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GoGoGoodyear
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2013 4:06:55 PM


The OP's original question created more questions than answers. Maybe tenasha12 will return and fill in the blanks.

"I receive email about local gasoline company stating
when prices are on sale."

Where does the email come from? From Gas Buddy? From the gas station?

Does the email contain prices for gas or just tell you that certain gas stations will have sale prices?

If the email contains gas prices, are you using those to update the gas station's prices on Gas Buddy, or updating what you actually saw while at the gas station?
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"Second someone rookie author not in this province
took my post and re-posted as update..."

Does "took my post and re-posted" refer to an update you made to one or more gas station prices, or a post you made in a discussion forum (such as this discussion) on Gas Buddy?

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PS: the OP left the same explanation on my WB as TxJeans.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2013 1:52:38 PM

"Second someone rookie author not in this province took my post and re-posted as update that is unfair."

Why is this unfair/
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2013 11:06:25 AM

SUVfan
The OP posted the below on my WB - which to me indicates posting prices from an email and not seen. As far as the person from outside her area, it might or might not be the case that they posted from receiving the same email alert and posted, or the person could have visually spotted the new price while traveling.
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Explaination, I receive email about local gasoline company stating when prices are on sale. Second someone rookie author not in this province took my post and re-posted as update that is unfair. I am not asking about travellers I am asking while you are in your own city/country.
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In any case, posting prices that you did NOT SEE PHYSICALLY AT THE STATION is against the rules. That includes her PRICE EMAIL.
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It is my understanding that pricing is different in Canada with more price controls, so I am not sure how that plays into the post, but posting from an email is NOT correct.
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SUVFan
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2013 10:55:17 AM

I think folks misunderstand the question. I'm sure the OP is seeing prices they believe are being posted by folks who were not in Manitoba. Why? I have no idea.

That would be agaisnt the site's rules. For the mobile app, I saw one of the mods post recently in one of the threads that GPS must be enabled on the device and that prices don't earn credit if the device location is remote from the station. How remote? They didn't say.

If the poster actually spotted the price, then it's absolutely fair that they be allowed to post it. If they didn't, they shouldn't be posting it. Controlling that is not easy. I would expect the problem to be greater in time zones along the coasts, especially the east coast, where midnight arrives an hour earlier than the "eastern" time zone. Hawaii probably sees a few prices that nobody actually spotted, too, with it's 5 hour difference from the US east coast, and 6 from eastern Canada.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2013 9:23:37 AM

Here is the explanation from tenasha on my white board:
Explaination, I receive email about local gasoline company stating when prices are on sale. Second someone rookie author not in this province took my post and re-posted as update that is unfair. I am not asking about travellers I am asking while you are in your own city/country

Check the FAQ
Q: Some gas station websites have their prices listed online. Can I post those prices here? Show Answer Link to This
A: No, in no event shall a member post a price from an online source or via telephone without visually recording the price for yourself. These sites are known to be inaccurate from time to time in their prices coupled along with some station address inaccuracies as well. That said, they're just typically not a reliable source.FAQ

Prices in emails are not legitimate to post.
- you are not to post prices found listed online.
- When you see a price (see it visually at the station yourself), you post the price. Even if it was posted 10-15 minutes before you, as it keeps it fresh and on the board longer. Other members when deciding to get off the expressway for station 1 or 2 that both have the same price posted, will tend to chose the freshest -- especially when prices are on the rise.

Additionally, are you sure that said person was not traveling when they posted? If they were posting also prices in areas outside the same time range for sighting, you should report them. But you must be sure that they were not traveling in your area.

It really is NOT about the points, and is more about helping each other know the most current pricing. There is life beyond the points and app awards and consecutive days.

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[Edited by: TxJeans at 8/25/2013 9:26:26 AM EST]
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Scrapheap
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2013 7:55:17 AM

As far as people posting prices in other states/provinces/cities, not only in it allowed, it is actually encouraged by the app awards. The only issue is whether or not the person actually saw the price he posted.

If the store you are talking about posts the price on a sign or at the pump, it is fair for someone else to post the price.
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ziyulu
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2013 7:48:25 AM

Define "fair". Life is unfair.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2013 6:27:40 AM

It's all about saving people money. It really makes no difference who posts the price as long as it is accurate. Fair has nothing to do with it.
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tenasha12
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2013 6:23:24 AM

Explaination, I receive email about local gasoline company stating when prices are on sale. Second someone rookie author not in this province took my post and re-posted as update that is unfair. I am not asking about travellers I am asking while you are in your own city/country
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Aug 24, 2013 9:19:50 PM

Fair? What does fair have to do with reporting gas prices?
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Aug 24, 2013 8:57:11 PM

Tenasha, what do you mean that the price came directly to your own email address?

And, yes, I post in other than my "home" city when I am traveling so you will see people from other areas posting in your area. We see lots of Canadians posting here in FL where they spend time during the winter. It really is about people posting the freshest prices they physically observe themselves to help each other find the best gas prices. The points are not all that important in the scheme of things.

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[Edited by: TxJeans at 8/24/2013 8:57:48 PM EST]
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GoGoGoodyear
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Message Posted: Aug 24, 2013 8:55:28 PM


IMO don't see how it's unfair, as long as the person posting the gas price actually saw it at the gas station personally (instead of guessing) since there is no rule about only posting prices for your own city or town. If someone is in another city (on vacation or whatever) and wants to take the time to update gas prices there is no reason they shouldn't.

As to the price coming directly to your own email address, I don't understand what you mean. Members can sign up to receive email notices when prices change, but that is not exclusive to any one member and those emails are sent by the system, not by any member. You might need to explain that a bit more.
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