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LowCountryAl

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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 9:01:40 PM

I've found incorrect photos for at least one station in my area. When attempting to upload my own, at times it does not work or the ones uploaded are saved in my uploaded photos. I suppose changes to the displayed station photos have to be done by an admin. So what method do we use to alert you for updated photos?
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jrsva
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2013 12:48:09 AM


Per my previous message, I reported a poor-quality photo using this comment: “It is very dark, badly framed, and does not give as good a view as another posted photo.” The report was made on 4 August; I looked again just now and the photo is gone. It appears that the system works.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Aug 4, 2013 6:27:24 AM

That happens a lot GoGoGoodyear.

I have reported a couple photos when brands changed and they were removed.
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jrsva
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Message Posted: Aug 3, 2013 11:57:06 PM


I’ve been wondering whether reporting a photo actually results in its removal. I’ve reported several but have not (until now) kept any notes so I can determine the result. I will post here again in a week or two with the result of this experiment.
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GoGoGoodyear
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Message Posted: Aug 3, 2013 10:30:13 PM


Looks like once again the OP hasn't returned or visited GB much.

IMO if a station has changed brands the photos showing the old brand may as well be removed to avoid confusion, unless there is true historical significance to keeping them.

Although photos are of limited use, the most useful photo IMO is one taken in daytime from across the street at the diagonal opposite corner, showing the entrances, spacing between pump islands, roof height and turning area. This kind of visual information can be useful to those arriving with a large truck and trailer or RV. Other than that the photos don't contribute much that can't be gleaned from the MSL info such as availability of air/water, convenience store, etc. It's not as if one would be looking for an obscure little gift shop or eatery tucked away between other buildings, gas stations are large and mostly located at intersecting streets.

Something nobody has mentioned is that even without uploading a new photo, if a station already has more than one photo anyone can select one of those as the 'main' photo which changes which photo is displayed on various parts of the GB site. (subject to the 10k points rule)
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Aug 3, 2013 3:42:22 PM

If you have 10,000 and over there is no need to contact the mods about station photos. As TxJeans summarized, and very nicely I might add, a photo can be dealt with in the MSL.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Aug 3, 2013 3:03:48 PM

For the Original Poster (here after to be referred to as OP if that is okay with Gas_Buddy)...

Here is a summary:
GoGoGoodyear posted this:
"Any photo you upload to a gas station's profile will appear in both the All Station Photos tab and in the My Uploaded Photos tab. Photos uploaded by others will only appear in the All Station Photos tab.

As far as I know anyone who can access the Master Station List can upload photos in connection with a gas station. A member must have at least 10,000 points to access the MSL.

Since photos are scaled down by the website, I found that keeping files small (around 100KB-200KB) and resolution down to the 900 x 400 range works ok."

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Jrsva posted this:
"I’ve been told that members with <10k points can upload photos by doing it from a price table. Click on the name of the station to bring up a data page for it. There is an “Upload Station Photos” link on that page. For certain anyone with >10k points can upload photos. If it is not working for you, you are doing something wrong.

As for reporting problematic photos, there is a “Report this photo” link right below the photos in the MSL. I have reported quite a few pix that were posted sideways or so poorly focused as to be worthless. I have not checked back to see if they were ever removed.

And for size, it will save a lot of server space if pix are reduced before posting. I make mine 600 x 300 or close to that and the files come out in the 20-40 kB range."

CK mentioned contacting the MODS

and

And Scoutmaster offered up this:

"When you click on a Report this photo in the MSL you get a pop-up box that states

Reason
Please enter the reason that you are reporting this photo.

Enter your reason and hit submit and the photo will be removed."
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For the OP -- do you have any further questions? Can you give us any more detail after reading the responses summarized below and found at the bottom of the thread?
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As for Gas_Buddy's name, I was using that as an example. I agree that for a screen name it is pretty late for the PTB (Powers that Be) at GasBuddy.com to request you to change your screen name just because they didn't have any filters in place like many websites to prevent screen names that could be confused as "official" or "moderators" -- especially since they do state that those that are OFFICIAL for the Gas Buddy organization have big red buses next to their profiles. You, Gas_Buddy do not.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Aug 3, 2013 2:19:48 PM

As for confusion with my membership, which is irrelevant to this thread, I've explained the reasoning/logic of the choice of my screen name multiple times, and at no time have I tried to come across as a being a part of Gas Buddy LLC, as being a moderator, or as being part of Gas Buddy management, any more than any other regular to these categories (Suggest a website improvement, and Talk Back to us!). But, as a nine-year member of Gas Buddy, I think that I've established as much a track record for my opinions, etc., as others here, and to change my screen name at this point (to placate the very small number of members that have implied or were lead to believe I was part of Gas Buddy) would put me at a posting disadvantage.

Second, as TxJeans noted in her link, the member name "gasbuddy" as the organizer and creator, does make it a more positive association with Gas Buddy LLC than anything I have done (inadvertently or otherwise).

Third, if you search for members named Gas_Buddy, GasBuddy, Gas-Buddy, and similar variations, you'll see that there are numerous members with similar screen names, just that, while I'm not necessarily the most prolific in the discussion categories, I am in the three most substantive discussion categories. (While there is only one TxJeans and only one kwzh, there are two "CampKohler" members, two "Scrapheap" members, and numerous "scoutmaster" members. Sorry, but my screen name choice was available at the time, nine years ago, when the membership was much smaller, and during that time, even with the growth of membership, only a minute few have confused my screen name with Gas Buddy LLC or my being a moderator, and I doubt that I've received as many as a half dozen white board comments to me as a moderator (almost all of which I've passed on to the moderators if it warranted such passing).

Now, can we dispense with CampKohler blogging, wiki-ing, or whatever, and with my screen name, and get back to the issue of gas station photos, something that LowCountryAL, who started this topic, finds important enough to start the discussion, despite his not acknowledging any comments to date? Hopefully all the peripheral discussion hasn't run him off from following-up on his issue.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Aug 3, 2013 12:46:09 PM

Maybe because the "member" for the site is listed as such:

member: gasbuddy

Same thing with some new folks that confuse Gas_Buddy sometimes as being part of the GasBuddy organization.

Sorry Gas_Buddy, but many sites would not have let you have such a screen name for that reason...even though it is clear you do not have a BIG RED BUS by your name ;-)
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Aug 3, 2013 8:21:47 AM

Take a look at the wiki kwzh. One could get the impression it is part of this site. There are titles like "GB-Tracking", "Maintenance Instructions For the GasBuddy Suggestion Tracking List", "GasBuddy Sandbox Wiki", "GB-Sandbox" that all give the impression it is endorsed by GasBuddy.com.
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Aug 3, 2013 1:57:52 AM

scoutmaster, of course the wiki is not part of GasBuddy; I've never heard anybody claim otherwise. I don't think I've heard anybody but you claim that someone might *think* otherwise.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Aug 2, 2013 8:38:11 AM

Well, Byte_Doctor, maybe the mods will chime in here regarding CampKohler's wiki. If I remember correctly, one of the mods stated it was not endorsed.

CampKohler has started topics that used purposely altered data to evoke a response. CampKohler has even admitted to this! Absurd - yep. Down right wrong - absolutely!

"Pretty much explains most of your topics and posts, scoutmaster."

Based on the number of posts I have made in these forums, I would say your statement is incorrect and if you think otherwise, back it up with some data, Byte_Doctor.
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Byte_Doctor
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Message Posted: Aug 2, 2013 8:04:57 AM

scoutmaster, give it a rest. Nobody wants to hear your rants about CK, we all know your feelings on the matter. GB is aware of his wiki and has declined to ask for its removal and I seem to recall a post by one of the mods that tacitly endorsed it (though I'm not going to bother searching for it, even if GB had a reasonable topic search which it doesn't.) Your *opinion* notwithstanding, your personal attacks on CK are wearing thin and I for one am tired of it. In my *opinion* ALL of your posts that disparage CK, his wiki, homor, etc. are absurd.

TxJeans, indeed.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Aug 2, 2013 7:34:17 AM

Absurd begets absurd?

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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Aug 2, 2013 6:14:09 AM

They do really suck Byte_Doctor! The wiki is a mess of stuff where some of the links don't exist any more and CampKohler has no idea how many hits it gets! Plus, he give the impression the wiki is part of this site and it is totally unendorsed by GasBuddy.com. An CampKohler's humor is crass and bad.

What topic of mine are absurd, Byte_Doctor?

[Edited by: scoutmaster at 8/2/2013 6:15:00 AM EST]
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Byte_Doctor
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2013 8:42:48 PM

"Typical extrapolation to the absurd"

Pretty much explains most of your topics and posts, scoutmaster.

CK's posts, humor and wiki are not that important. They are just as informational as what you post. Unless they really suck there is no need to do anything especially gripe about them.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2013 7:16:39 AM

"Typical extrapolation to the absurd"

Pretty much explains most of your topics and posts, CampKohler.

The photos are not that important. They are just another piece of information. Unless they really suck there is no need to do anything especially gripe about them.

Exactly TxJeans! Well said!
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jrsva
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Message Posted: Aug 1, 2013 12:44:16 AM

“Personally I agree that the photos don't really contribute that much . . . .”

The station pix are just a sidebar to the real data on each station but, since they exist, they might as well be somewhat in focus and reasonably framed. I have never requested removal of a photo unless a better one was present, except in a few instances of total hopelessness.

This is one of several situations where the site could be improved if the Mods would co-opt some long-time members as volunteers to assist with specific tasks. The Mods do not have to do everything if they would just solicit a little help.

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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2013 7:57:05 PM

"Typical extrapolation to the absurd"

Pot Kettle
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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2013 5:31:24 PM

BB: <rant>I must state that I just turned 70 and have a well-developed sense of history. I spend hours at the county recorder constructing a database of all Sutter deeds for the 6600 Sacramento downtown lots so that others doing research won't have to do it in the future. I just read "Rocket Girl," the history of the first American woman rocket engineer who invented Hydyne that replaced the alcohol fuel in the Redstone missile to give it enough specific impulse to allow our first satellite to reach orbit. I am taking hundreds of photos to document the fracking process of the polluted ground at the old McClellan AFB that will cut 17 years off the cleanup process. Even my nickname was the result of studying the WWII Walerga Assembly Center, and later Camp Kohler Signal Corps facility. But since branding is just putting new lipstick on our local pigs, I feel no tug at the heartstrings about replacing obsolete photos that might confuse users. So there.</rant>

Personally I agree that the photos don't really contribute that much, because after all, how much imagination does it take to see in one's mind's eye what a Shell station looks like? Having said that, there may be some stations in locations like this, that has, at the least, some artistic merit and makes you grateful that the station even exists.

SM: Typical extrapolation to the absurd. I never said that all the photos were bad, just many of them. Can you say you have never seen those where the member holds up his camera and shoots while he is driving on the side of the street opposite the station? However, your confidence in my photographic abilities is touching (I just don't want to be touched there).

[Edited by: CampKohler at 7/31/2013 5:36:59 PM EST]
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jul 31, 2013 7:13:53 AM

"Second, and CampKohler is correct, if the Master Station List shows outdated photos for a station that that has been rebranded, the photos should be removed, but that (again) can be done by contacting the moderators."

When you click on a Report this photo in the MSL you get a pop-up box that states

Reason
Please enter the reason that you are reporting this photo.

Enter your reason and hit submit and the photo will be removed.



[Edited by: scoutmaster at 7/31/2013 7:14:26 AM EST]
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2013 9:23:26 PM

Consider it just my opinion, but the quality of photographs is the least of the problems of this website. First, I don't think that photographs add any significant value to the Master Station List but, as jrsva noted, photos can be reported and moderators will take action (time permitting) just as they move or close misplaced topics and warn members that post prices erroneously; it's just that some things aren't a particular priority and a second request may need to be made.

Second, and CampKohler is correct, if the Master Station List shows outdated photos for a station that that has been rebranded, the photos should be removed, but that (again) can be done by contacting the moderators.

As for "There are many, many photos of stations in the MSL, many of which were poorly made, poorly framed or otherwise worthy of reshooting. Let's say someone has a decent camera and is willing to take the time to get a good quality and representative shot of the station." Unless someone is suggesting that only professional quality photography be used, or suggesting that professional-quality photographers among the membership take it upon themselves to ensure that all stations have professional quality photos, this is a non-issue. It's a member-participation issue, and not all members are using top quality equipment to take the pictures, nor are all members taking quality photos, and (if you think that station photos are THAT important) any photo is better than no photo.

I, for one, am not looking at photos of a gas station as a determining factor regarding whether I will or will not buy gas from that particular gas station. Availability of services MIGHT determine if I stop at a "strange" or distant gas station, but photos (or lack of), fuzzy or otherwise, won't influence my getting fuel if I need it.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2013 8:22:45 PM

I vote for CampKohler to be the official station photographer since he feels the rest of us are woefully inadequate photographers.

[Edited by: scoutmaster at 7/30/2013 8:23:59 PM EST]
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bytebug
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2013 6:40:14 PM

>> If the branding changes, all photos of the obsolete branding should be removed.

That's the problem with most youngsters… no sense of history.
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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2013 6:10:54 PM

Another thing that could generate more photos is a change in branding. If the branding changes, all photos of the obsolete branding should be removed. Again, I would think that it would be too much to ask moderators to do this. (However, if they are volunteering....)
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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2013 4:52:53 PM

There are many, many photos of stations in the MSL, many of which were poorly made, poorly framed or otherwise worthy of reshooting. Let's say someone has a decent camera and is willing to take the time to get a good quality and representative shot of the station. It would be a bit much to expect a moderator to plow through all new photos and figure out which should be used. There needs to be a mechanism in place to allow the locals (or users or someone other than a moderator) to pick which photos should be either discarded or made more prominent, etc. Any ideas how this could be done without hurting the feelings of the first submitter with that blurry pix taken leaning out his car window from across the street? (Or even WITH hurting his feelings, as long as the job got done.)
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jrsva
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2013 11:54:09 PM

I’ve been told that members with <10k points can upload photos by doing it from a price table. Click on the name of the station to bring up a data page for it. There is an “Upload Station Photos” link on that page. For certain anyone with >10k points can upload photos. If it is not working for you, you are doing something wrong.

As for reporting problematic photos, there is a “Report this photo” link right below the photos in the MSL. I have reported quite a few pix that were posted sideways or so poorly focused as to be worthless. I have not checked back to see if they were ever removed.

And for size, it will save a lot of server space if pix are reduced before posting. I make mine 600 x 300 or close to that and the files come out in the 20-40 kB range.

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GoGoGoodyear
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2013 11:46:51 PM


Any photo you upload to a gas station's profile will appear in both the All Station Photos tab and in the My Uploaded Photos tab. Photos uploaded by others will only appear in the All Station Photos tab.

As far as I know anyone who can access the Master Station List can upload photos in connection with a gas station. A member must have at least 10,000 points to access the MSL.

Since photos are scaled down by the website, I found that keeping files small (around 100KB-200KB) and resolution down to the 900 x 400 range works ok.
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