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CampKohler

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Message Posted: Jun 25, 2013 9:13:36 PM

This example seems to contradict the recent FSL "fix." (There be clues here.)

These are actual screen shots.

[Edited by: CampKohler at 6/25/2013 9:14:55 PM EST]
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 10:11:57 AM

In reality, this topic is nothing more than bait that we all bit on. More evidence that CampKohler should not be permitted to start new topics. This one is of no value and should be removed all together.
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 9:58:33 AM

Are you able to add different comments to these entries? If you report prices from these multiple entries, such as reporting regular with one entry, mid-grade with another and premium with the thrid, and have different comments for each grade, will these show up on the price boards.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 7:36:02 AM

As long as CK put this out there...
1- Easy to put first header w/out any of CK dances, not so second ones.
2- how is the grid to look? In each of my lists, the station name and address are combined to one column, or the address and comments are combined. My first list was fine, I think before CK got me to mess w/ it.
Going forward, I will ignore and not test any CK theories.
There is productive exploratory testing, and non-productive and I am concluding that following any of CK's would be non-productive. I'll leave confirmation to those that want to test CK's theories.

[Edited by: TxJeans at 6/27/2013 7:38:57 AM EST]
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 6:32:53 AM

So since the OP in this topic was nothing more than a sham, this topic should be closed and CampKohler should be banned from starting new topics.
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 12:16:27 AM

Sounds like this was not a request for action, but just an "FYI" post? In any case, thanks for posting it, CK. I haven't had a need to add any new header lines since it became awkward to do so, but it's good to know of a way to do it.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Jun 26, 2013 7:32:42 PM

Basically, CK was not giving the full information to create discourse from those that ZIM complains about.

TB was very nice in asking CK to ask an actual question so we (including the MODS) aren't guessing what he is doing to prove what point.

CK "If you mean by label breaks, headers, I would be very interested in how you did that if not as described above."
I really don't remember and don't care how I did it and am not going to waste time going back to try it again.

I had another post last night, but chose to put on my oven mitts and didn't post it, but I had noticed the changed and figured it was due to them not being properly matched (also noticed the comments with different numbers).

Of note, in my FSL the address and comments are not separated like his screen shot.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jun 26, 2013 5:08:32 PM

So, has this issue been resolved?

Or are there still outstanding issues?
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jun 26, 2013 4:57:17 PM

So, CampKohler, are you saying the screenshots you linked to were, for the lack of a better term, Photoshopped?
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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Jun 26, 2013 3:43:13 PM

TB got it in one. kwzh gets "mentioned in despatches.". To the Nattering Neighbobs of Negativity: please be positive and uplifting.

The three apparent duplicates are not the same station as the fourth one; they are three different stations disguised as the fourth. A telling clue is that the three show no current prices, whereas the fourth does. The true identities of the three are revealed by the Station ID numbers typed in the Comments field. The only care was that the station selected as the example must have Exact Address and Cross/Nearby Cross Street field data that would fit in the FSL address field.*

At some time in the past, one could add stations to one's FSL without reference to the MSL. From the FSL, one would click Edit My Favorite Stations to reach the Manage Favorite Stations page, and use the Add a New Favorite function to add a station, even an imaginary one. These stations could then be edited into headers or for any other purpose. As these stations were not real, no prices would show up to mar the appearance, nor could any prices unintentional be posted. However things have changed. No longer can you add a station directly to the FSL. The function looks like it completes, but nothing shows up in the FSL. Only by matching an existing station in the MSL (or by adding a new station to the MSL and then matching it) will it be added to the FSL. There is no record in What's New that this function has been changed.

I therefore sought a new source of stations to add to my FSL for conversion to headers, namely the MSL. Any station could be used, but live stations have prices showing and there is always the danger of unintentional posting. So I used stations with a Deleted status, of which there is no shortage, and, prices, even if they could be posted, would have no place to appear. Just as documentation, any station so used has its ID number placed in the FSL Comments field.** So while one has to rely on the MSL, headers can still be made.

TX: >>"I even tried adding the label breaks (successfully)"
If you mean by label breaks, headers, I would be very interested in how you did that if not as described above.

Question: Is it intentional that Add a New Favorite no longer adds directly to the FSL without reference to the MSL? If not, can it be fixed so that it works as before?

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*The FSL Address field is a combination of the MSL's Exact Address and Cross/Nearby Cross Street fields. In the FSL, the combination is edited when the Address field is edited. I suppose when either of the MSL fields change, the combined field is refreshed with a new combination when matched.
**Headers with no ID number are from "the olden days," when the Add a New Favorite worked as before.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jun 26, 2013 2:07:26 PM

Well, Zim, I'm gonna click on any topic I can click on just like you probably do. And if I think it shouldn't have been started, I'm gonna say so. My mom taught me to be honest.
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Zimcity
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Message Posted: Jun 26, 2013 2:04:25 PM

"I have no one on ignore and refuse to use the feature."

In that case, then perhaps you might just resist clicking on CampKohler's topics, so as not to be sidetracked from harassing new members posting already asked questions. Though I assume you take pleasure in harassing CK, so maybe that's not an option either.
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Message Posted: Jun 26, 2013 1:18:03 PM

Thanks TB. So what you are saying is the only way to achieve what CampKohler did was to have it not match the MSL which is not a good thing that could lead to posting duplicates?

Looks like this isn't an anomaly at all but the way it is supposed to work.
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TB
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Message Posted: Jun 26, 2013 12:39:43 PM

The reason that those stations exist multiple times in the list is the status on the right of the fsl. If they are not matched to the station master then they have no station id and so we don't know that they are the same station. We don't do string matching in the fsl (match address,city,station name).

I realize that it doesn't say "not matched" but changed also has the same affect. This means that something within the msl listing for that station has changed significantly enough to warrant you re-matching your favourites list.

CampKohler in your topics it would be great if you asked an actual question in your post so that members and mods know what to look for.

Thanks for all your input.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Jun 26, 2013 10:47:56 AM

I have no one on ignore and refuse to use the feature. In my opinion, it serves no purpose and make conversations harder to read.

No it wasn't a suggested improvement. It was a PM to the moderators and numerous post in erroneous topics like this that CampKohler has started.
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Zimcity
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Message Posted: Jun 26, 2013 9:45:57 AM

"It was requested long ago that CampKohler not be permitted to start new topics. I formally renew this request."

Was that in Suggest a GasBuddy improvement? If so, was it added to the wiki.

Bytebug, Scoutmaster to install that feature
Click → HERE ←   it's in beta mode but probably is bug free.

[Edited by: Zimcity at 6/26/2013 9:47:59 AM EST]
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Jun 26, 2013 6:59:37 AM

I even tried adding the label breaks (successfully) but still couldn't add a duplicate station.
I also see that some of my stations are not marked by borders - 2 at a time. Saw no pattern to those that were grouped and those not.

CK seems to spend a lot of time trying to find anomalies on this free site to post about. Maybe he should get a job as a software tester where they might have the resources and desire to work on every little anomaly he finds.

[Edited by: TxJeans at 6/26/2013 7:05:33 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Jun 26, 2013 6:39:28 AM

I can't add a station to my FSL that is already there. Tried a couple times and it didn't work. I don't have those headers like CampKohler has in his screenshots.

I'm not seeing this anything but another topic that didn't need to be started. I agree with bytebug 100% that CampKohler should not be allowed to start new topics.
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bytebug
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Message Posted: Jun 26, 2013 5:30:21 AM

It was requested long ago that CampKohler not be permitted to start new topics. I formally renew this request.
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Jun 26, 2013 3:47:49 AM

Gas_Buddy writes,
> Could this not be an anomaly in someone's Favorite Stations list

I think that's exactly the point -- the recent "fix" was to prevent such anomalies from being possible.
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jrsva
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Message Posted: Jun 26, 2013 12:32:03 AM


I’m with GB — I have no idea what the issue is here.
Probably does not affect me but I’m just curious.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Jun 25, 2013 9:36:37 PM

Am I missing what the question or issue is?

I know a search of gas prices for the station at Madison & Dale indicates there's only one ARCO station at that location, and the Master Station List only shows one station at that location.

Could this not be an anomaly in someone's Favorite Stations list rather than a deliberate or on-going contradiction to the "fix"? I ask because I have no problems with any stations on my Favorite Stations list so perhaps I (for one) don't understand the problem or if it can't be resolved by a one-time removal of duplicate stations from the list. I did note, in the example, that there were differing "comments" for the duplicate stations.
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