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kmapjr

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Message Posted: May 1, 2013 7:05:41 PM

I've been seeing some GasBuddy users mentioning some stations are going GasBuddy-Direct, where you (Gas Buddy) get the stations prices automatically & don't need us to report on those stations manually. My question is how to find these stations, as to not waste time on reporting gas prices for those stations participating?
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Brindfan
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Message Posted: May 15, 2013 3:15:52 PM

I'm done posting prices. I still have a ton of points to buy tickets.
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MARIOWERX
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Message Posted: May 15, 2013 2:44:44 PM

talking about misleading what happened to " I'm done!"
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Brindfan
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Message Posted: May 15, 2013 1:49:25 PM

"How do we know when a station goes GB-Direct?"

When it reads, "GB-Direct" instead of someone's user name. Also, the prices will probably be wrong and/or misleading.....
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davisadm
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Message Posted: May 15, 2013 11:39:47 AM

Both accuracy and recent posting times are important. With the way gas stations fluctuate gas prices, if a post is more than 24 hours old, there is a good chance the price is not correct. Reposting the correct price, even if it is the same, lets us know that it is current.
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kmapjr
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Message Posted: May 4, 2013 1:02:50 AM

I agree, that would be great if you GasBuddy can get the info out in a way the members know to post "Cash" prices, NOT the credit price, I've seen this every now & then, a credit price posted, instead of the correct cash price that needs posting.
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bytebug
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Message Posted: May 3, 2013 7:47:48 AM

>> This is all about having the most up-to-date price posted, no matter what the source.

Actually, accuracy is much more important than how recently a price was updated.
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kwzh
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Message Posted: May 3, 2013 2:34:09 AM

I'll treat GBD and non-GBD stations equally when posting prices -- that is, if I spotted the price, then I'll update it. This seems like the obvious thing for us to be doing.
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: May 3, 2013 12:38:08 AM

And, remember, if you pass a station, and update the price, it doesn't matter if it has been reported by GB Direct or not, your update shows and you get the points. I haven't seen a GB Direct price yet that I couldn't update, whether it had changed or not.
This is all about having the most up-to-date price posted, no matter what the source.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: May 3, 2013 12:00:44 AM

Gas_Buddy, I might agree with you if all they had for the GBD was their logo, but the fact that they get listed in preferential order on the price board - should come w/ more responsibility. THEY know when they change their prices and it is not the same as waiting for a volunteer to drive by and post the price. Take away that preferential positioning, and I am fine with it.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: May 2, 2013 11:50:58 PM

"...if they are to get the preferential treatment in where they fall in the price list, it should be part of the agreement that they update GB w/in X amount of time of any price change"

I don't think that gas stations should be required to update prices within X amount of time of any price change any more than other members should be required to post updates for stations that they pass. What Gas Buddy Direct does, from my perspective (and I'm allowing for the cash/credit issue or honest typing errors, etc.) is provide almost universal accuracy at the time of posting. The station is putting its credibility on the line; it shouldn't have to put it's time on the line. That it posts accurately should be all that's required; there should be no other obligations on the part of the (Gas Buddy Direct) poster/member. The only thing different between a Gas Buddy Direct posting and my posting (as an individual member) is recognition of the poster's professionalism and its posting credibility.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: May 2, 2013 11:27:11 PM

GoGo -- Heck, much of the general membership never got that memo! ;-)
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GoGoGoodyear
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Message Posted: May 2, 2013 10:56:21 PM


As someone else pointed out here, maybe some of those GB_Direct members are still posting credit instead of cash prices.

I wonder if just like other members are correcting the GB_Direct prices, the GB_Direct member is correcting what they think are wrong prices posted for their station by other members?

Maybe GB needs to send a memo or press release to all the GB_Direct members to make sure they are all on the same page when it comes to posting prices.
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BarbieLoveJax
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Message Posted: May 2, 2013 9:32:08 PM

Don, thank you for the info on GB_Direct. There is a station near me that must have a bug in the software. GB_Direct posts the price at least 10 cents too high on all grades. Various posters will correct it, but then it goes back to GB_Direct & is incorrect.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: May 2, 2013 8:49:41 PM

Don - this statement concerns me a bit....
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"Some stations and chains feed prices directly from corporate headquarters on GasBuddy sites (this being said, those prices may not always be right - and you can update and correct them just as any other station). "
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If they are to participate, it should be expected that the prices be right at the time of the feed. Additionally, if they are to get the preferential treatment in where they fall in the price list, it should be part of the agreement that they update GB w/in X amount of time of any price change.
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Don
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Message Posted: May 2, 2013 5:21:10 PM

> kmapjr

You're more than welcome, we're here to help!

> Furball

Prices posted by GB_Direct behave the same as any other price reported by any other user, it's the same as when you update a station and your price overwrites the existing price. The only difference being is the physical source of the prices (prices being sourced and reported by site operators/chain headquarters).

-Don

[Edited by: Don at 5/2/2013 5:21:57 PM EST]
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kmapjr
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Message Posted: May 2, 2013 5:05:44 PM

Thanks Don for clarifying that matter for me & to the rest of the Gasbuddies that commented on the topic, thank you very much for the great feedback, it is much appreciated....Kelly
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Furball
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Message Posted: May 2, 2013 4:28:06 PM

<The GasBuddy Direct program is not meant to compete with member price reports.>

Then, why should GB_Direct ever override a previously posted member price?
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Don
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Message Posted: May 2, 2013 12:39:33 PM

GB_Direct was a program created in 2008 designed for station owners and operators to more easily submit prices to Gasbuddy.

As the GasBuddy websites became more popular, stations are noticing that the GasBuddy sites were having an impact on their sales. Some stations and chains feed prices directly from corporate headquarters on GasBuddy sites (this being said, those prices may not always be right - and you can update and correct them just as any other station).

Many stations still currently report prices to Gasbuddy manually. There is no cost or fee for stations to access the GasBuddy Direct program itself. It is simply a way for stores to get their prices on the site more easily on regular basis.

The GasBuddy Direct program is not meant to compete with member price reports.

(The prices posted under GasBuddy Direct do not count for points and those stations etc are not eligible for the contests etc).

It is also used under partnership with a sister-company called "OpenStore", essentially a new media service for convenience stores.

The clearest indication a station is using GB_Direct is when that username is updating prices for a station.

If you notice prices being entered inaccurately by GB_Direct, just as any username, please let us know the the price(s) they posted, the station details (station name, address, area, state/province), the price posted and the approximate time posted, so we can review the price feed data.

The same as any other station being reported, if you notice an inaccurate price, and you know of the current correct price, please update it for everyone in your area to see.

Thank you for your help!

-Don
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bytebug
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Message Posted: May 2, 2013 7:51:09 AM

>> My question is how to find these stations, as to not waste time on reporting gas prices
>> for those stations participating?

PLEASE continue to report on all stations you can. As has been stated, GB Direct often reports inaccurate pricing information.

>> I doubt that any gas stations deliberately post incorrect prices

I've seen it happen often enough that I'll conclude the actions to be deliberate. And the preferential treatment they receive taints the accuracy and good name of the site.

[Edited by: bytebug at 5/2/2013 7:52:28 AM EST]
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: May 2, 2013 7:36:38 AM

Personally, I think that since GBD show their logo, and give preference in listing order on price board, part of being GBD should be that they DO update their price on GB when they change it. Otherwise, their special positioning (which I disagree with anyhow) on the price list should be lost when the price is changed by a non GBD, and only regained when GBD posts the correct price again.
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WR-INC
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Message Posted: May 2, 2013 6:14:33 AM

GasBuddy-Direct stations don't always display a special logo, but do always show at the top of their list of equal prices despite the time posted.
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jrsva
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Message Posted: May 2, 2013 12:27:05 AM

You can spot GBD stations in an instant — just look for the company logo instead of the name in regular type. GBD stations retain their special display even if the price is entered by a regular member. Too bad. I would eagerly report GBD stations if so doing would display their prices like all the other stations.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: May 1, 2013 11:27:11 PM

krazkar wrote:
"I don't fully trust GB-Direct prices. Many times they are right, but not always. As GoGoGoodyear said, prices can change or are just incorrect."

Just as many times the prices you and I and others post are right, but not always. And, as GogoGoodyear said, prices can change. But just because prices CAN change doesn't mean that gas station operators are (or should be) continually on this website, updating prices immediately each and every time a change occurs. Gas station operators in the Gas Buddy Direct program in many cases (apparently) update their prices once a day, and not necessarily seven days a week, and we the members update the prices on a "whenever we can" basis.

As for incorrect prices (forgetting that many of the stations began Gas Buddy Direct participation when credit prices were the required post), I doubt that any gas stations deliberately post incorrect prices; the number of additional customers it might generate would be minimal, few Gas Buddy members would go far out of their way to buy gas, and most Gas Buddy members would notice if one station in an area had an abnormally low price in comparison with the competition; furthermore, if there was a pattern of erroneous price posting under Gas Buddy Direct, other members would report the station just as they report other false posting, and Gas Buddy management would take Gas Buddy Direct privileges away from the offending station.

As for the original post, "My question is how to find these stations, as to not waste time on reporting gas prices for those stations participating?", you're not wasting your time posting prices for stations participating in Gas Buddy Direct; you're updating the prices as you notice the prices, possibly updating prices that the station hasn't yet updated itself, and (if necessary) making corrections to prices. Your updating prices also extends the time a price is visible, something important if a station isn't updating Gas Buddy Direct daily.



[Edited by: Gas_Buddy at 5/1/2013 11:31:33 PM EST]
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krazkar
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Message Posted: May 1, 2013 9:52:07 PM

I don't fully trust GB-Direct prices. Many times they are right, but not always. As GoGoGoodyear said, prices can change or are just incorrect.
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GoGoGoodyear
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Message Posted: May 1, 2013 8:28:32 PM


IMO even if a station has joined GB_Direct the members still need to keep an eye on the price updates because there have been instances of GB_Direct stations posting their own prices as lower than they actually were, probably to attract customers.
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