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tommyz23

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Message Posted: Apr 14, 2013 12:31:12 PM

Did something change on the gasbuddy homepage? It like the sections all blend together now. I find it harder to follow.

Does anyone else notice a difference? I liked it the old way.
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kwzh
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Message Posted: May 5, 2013 4:13:50 AM

I'd previously commented on the loss of the gold background for prices posted by the current user, which brought a response that it was still there, just fainter. In a new test just now, I find that I can easily see the color, even on my defective monitor, so it seems that they did fix that.
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ziyulu
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Message Posted: May 5, 2013 1:22:18 AM

This seems to be a new trend going on. Look at Facebook and YouTube and you'll see why.
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pupule777
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Message Posted: May 4, 2013 2:08:59 PM

Yes, I did but I just thougt my mind was going !! I don't especially like it either !!
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HeavyDuty_cache
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Message Posted: May 4, 2013 8:53:41 AM

In a response to my message about the icons being harder to see, CC said they were going for a simpler look.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: May 4, 2013 8:51:03 AM

I had to laugh when I clicked Birdfan's link - that page displayed horribly!

Scoutmaster - borders on the price page are faint. I knew I couldn't see them, and then you said there were there, and I could see them faintly. Depends on which monitor on my computer. I will have to play with the adjustments, but they could be made a bit more prominent. Even on my laptop screen they are pretty faint. All my other apps and websites have enough contrast. I really shouldn't have to "adjust" my monitors specifically for one site.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: May 4, 2013 7:51:03 AM

The Americans with Disabilities Act ( ADA) has a three-part definition of disability. Under ADA, an individual with a disability is a person who: (1) has a physical or mental impairment that substantially limits one or more major life activities; OR (2) has a record of such an impairment; OR (3) is regarded as having such an impairment.

And you still haven't answered the question, bytebug.

The borders are still there jrsva.
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jrsva
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Message Posted: May 4, 2013 12:52:41 AM


Lack of contrast is a problem in some sections, especially the faded-out links, but a major factor making the Home page difficult is the lack of borders. The price tables and all of the features in the left column run together, just a bunch of text floating in a sea of white.
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Brindfan
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Message Posted: May 3, 2013 10:48:26 PM

Is Your Site ADA-Compliant ... or a Lawsuit-in-Waiting?

[Edited by: Brindfan at 5/3/2013 10:50:11 PM EST]
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bytebug
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Message Posted: May 3, 2013 6:16:17 PM

Well, fortunately the ADA disagrees with you, Scoutmaster.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: May 3, 2013 10:04:47 AM

You are missing my point, bytebug. If your eyesight, or anything else for that fact, is declining ONLY because of age, that isn't a disability.

Still no answer to the question.
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bytebug
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Message Posted: May 3, 2013 7:52:11 AM

>> Declining eyesight due to aging isn't a disability.

While you may not feel that your declining eyesight is a disability, the ADA is concerned with those who have poor eyesight, regardless of whether it's because of the aging process, an accident, or just being born that way.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: May 3, 2013 6:13:23 AM

Declining eyesight is usually a result of aging. I am now wearing my glass 24/7 but I don't have a disability. Declining eyesight due to aging isn't a disability.

And we are still waiting for you to tell us the ADA requirements this site violates, bytebug.
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kwzh
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Message Posted: May 3, 2013 2:38:03 AM

People requiring a screen reader will probably find it impossible to get current prices out of the images that are currently used in the price fields on the main page!

(Of course, those people also shouldn't be driving. But let's assume that the driver and the price fetcher are different people.)
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bytebug
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Message Posted: May 3, 2013 12:54:57 AM

Not all visual impairment requires a screen reader. My eyesight isn't to that point, yet. However, the lack of contrast means that the site is far more difficult to use, and is a symptom of using non-professional web designers who are probably twenty-something with excellent eyesight.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: May 2, 2013 9:11:43 PM

Well, if it's text to speech, the look makes no difference.
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mwjones
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Message Posted: May 2, 2013 8:11:24 PM

Actually, it's not ADA specifically, but Section 508 of the Workforce Rehabilitation Act of 1973.

In 2011, Health and Human Services started pushing private businesses to make their websites compliant to Section 508 under Title III of the Americans With Disabilities Act. Government websites were already required to comply under Title II.

The long and short of it is compatibility with "screen readers" (text to speech) for the visually impaired.

[Edited by: mwjones at 5/2/2013 8:12:47 PM EST]
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: May 2, 2013 7:47:37 AM

"and not vIolate ADA requirements for accessibility."

You keep spouting this, bytebug. What ADA requirements are being violated?
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bytebug
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Message Posted: May 2, 2013 7:43:03 AM

>> it needs, dare I say, a few tweaks to make it easier to view

…and not vIolate ADA requirements for accessibility.
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Don
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Message Posted: May 1, 2013 3:38:36 PM

Thanks for your patience as we continue to develop and improve our website and mobile app services, guys!

-Don
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: May 1, 2013 6:47:24 AM

"That issue seems to have been fixed."

Yup fixed. Thanks
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jrsva
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2013 11:28:11 PM


"That issue seems to have been fixed."

So it has; good work!
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drunkhabib
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2013 5:13:18 PM

hell i like it
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Michael29644
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2013 3:28:15 PM

"I do like the Ignore Short Messages feature, though it should be possible to revert simply by unchecking the box without backing out of the topic."

jrsva,

That issue seems to have been fixed.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2013 3:02:17 PM

There are pluses and negatives to the "schema" update. It does look a bit more modern, but it needs, dare I say, a few tweaks to make it easier to view and still keep the more modern look. In page design it is important to have adequate contrast and color choices for easy reading, including considering those with color blindness. It also helps to have the appropriate lines/frames/shading to help the eye follow the data across the screen. This is particularly true with today's wide format screens at the desktop. Think of the old fashioned green-bar paper. It had alternate rows shaded for exactly that reason - to guide the eye across the page.
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reb4
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2013 1:37:59 PM

Don,

I won't go as far as scrapheap, but it is less appealing than the old style (I thought there were changes a few years back)...

Since there are other ways to post gas prices it is not as much of a deterrent for me.
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Scrapheap
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2013 11:35:42 AM

"we strongly feel the space on the GasBuddy.com main site is being used more effectively, and these styling changes have helped improve and modernize the site image."

This pretty much tells you how little they care about the opinion of their volunteer content providers.
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Don
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2013 11:25:45 AM

The main GasBuddy website was updated with styling changes on April 03, mostly changes were made to color scheme and some minimal changes to the page layout and organization, a Gas Price Report feature was also added (this gives a "snap shot image" of local and national price average for the metro area you select).

Granted the sites had not seen a styling change for about 5 years, we strongly feel the space on the GasBuddy.com main site is being used more effectively, and these styling changes have helped improve and modernize the site image.

The local sites followed up with a similar site update on April 12.

-Don
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sagnat
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2013 5:21:13 AM

I don't mind change but the new color scheme is a little hard on the eyes...not enough contrast maybe.
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sks1586
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2013 4:22:39 AM

Change is the Law of the Nature in the universe.
IMHO Best strategy is to change oneself with the changes.
I focus on my research to find interesting issues & therefore not affected by any of the changes.
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jrsva
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2013 12:45:21 AM

I do like the Ignore Short Messages feature, though it should be possible to revert simply by unchecking the box without backing out of the topic. I also discovered accidentally that the check box can be activated by clicking anywhere on the three words, not just in or near the box. That seems like a bug. Those words should be inactive text, not part of the check box.
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2013 9:17:48 AM

In response to the questions raised by jrsva:

It has been apparent for some time that GB doesn't currently have on staff the technical expertise and wherewithal to make significant programming changes to the web site. I really don't think anyone here would hold this against the owners since this is likely a function of current economic trends and or ongoing financial constraints. However, feathers seem to be ruffled all around now.

The lack of programming competence is in evidence here when the "Ignore Short Messages" somehow made it to the top of the list of improvements? It appears that this feature was thought to be a suggested improvement that was attainable and that would serve to mollify at least part of the membership. Instead it seems to have aggravated contributors who have long waited for substantive changes that would tend to improve both the accuracy of reported gas prices and the overall web site experience.

These latest graphic modifications upsetting some members have the look and feel of a default to pre-formatted or canned web site software, something a novice programmer with no graphic design experience might stumble into when attempting to make seemingly minor alterations to existing programming.

Unfortunately, this dust up will in all likelihood cause further delays in changes to the web site. Might as well get used to the way things are. It may be like this for a while.

RG
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jrsva
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2013 12:36:46 AM

How paranoid can you get? Lock the topic if you don't want any more such discussion but deleting it completely? That indicates clinical problems.

I believe that is the thread in which Don stated, “However, ultimately we do not need to consult the user base before making changes to our own website.”

True, true, true but also sad, sad, sad. Why would the owners of any web site not want to keep their users happy? Why would they not announce changes, install them on a trial basis on just part of the site and ask for feedback? Why indeed would they make changes that make the site harder to read — shades of gray with no borders, bits of faded text floating in space? And most of all, why were these changes considered important on a site that has a seriously out-of-date map base [discussion topic now locked], has a continuing problem of fraudulent prices posts because posting is not tied to the MSL, and has seemingly done nothing to resolve the constant cash/credit pricing issue? These are just a few of the problems that the site owners have failed to resolve while dealing with fluff like color schemes.

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GoGoGoodyear
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2013 12:20:09 AM


Removing that entire discussion thread, for whatever reason that made management think it was necessary, really stinks.

This site is headed the wrong way if management can't handle a bit of negative feedback and goes around deleting user comments it doesn't like.
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Brindfan
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2013 11:38:14 PM

Too harsh??? Perhaps, I've never been the diplomatic type.
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Brindfan
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2013 6:34:08 PM

This place blows more and more as every day passes. They refuse to respond, (or have decided to just flat out ignore me), about the problems I have been having on their now crappy site. As far as I'm concerned, they can all go pack sand.....
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KHF
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2013 3:08:36 PM

I realize that it is THEIR website, but it could not exist if they did not have all us members posting prices for them for free on our time.

What would happen to their advertisers if whole blocks or areas united and stopped posting prices?
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2013 9:54:48 AM

Censorhsip is alive and well.
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TUrtLE1625
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2013 9:03:18 AM

It would be funny, reading all your comments, if it wasn't so sad.

The most I would have expected would have been a locked topic, not complete removal without an explanation other than the last post from Don.

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kwzh
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2013 7:33:50 AM

Sometimes this forum seems like testing grounds for a new sitcom.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2013 6:40:07 AM

How exactly does this web site violate the ADA guidelines for web sites, bytebug?
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bytebug
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2013 6:10:07 AM

>> Where did the existing discussion about the poor new website layout & colors go?

You can probably blame me for that. I mentioned how the website now violated ADA requirements for accessibility, and instead of merely stopping discussion by locking the topic, they chose to completely remove the topic, essentially leaving us with their last position of "we don't need the users' permission to change our own website."
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jon_laura5
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Message Posted: Apr 28, 2013 1:48:33 AM

Where did the existing discussion about the poor new website layout & colors go?

I note that some of my other comments and postings about suggesting a poll on the new color scheme have been removed.

Is this what we can expect now that OPIS owns this website?
Any "unwanted feedback" will be treated with Soviet era censorship tactics?

;-)

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kwzh
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Message Posted: Apr 14, 2013 11:35:25 PM

Click here for existing discussion.
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