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Gas_Buddy

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Message Posted: Mar 1, 2013 9:31:50 PM

OPIS Takes It to Street With GasBuddy Acquisition

Because the initial story is so brief, here is the entire news report:

"Oil Price Information Service (OPIS) has acquired GasBuddy, the mobile app and website used by more than 26 million motorists to pinpoint retail gasoline prices at gas stations and convenience stores across the United States and Canada.
"Access to OPIS's database of spot and wholesale gasoline prices will enhance Brooklyn Park, Minn.-based GasBuddy's ability to alert consumers to retail gasoline and diesel price changes.
"OPIS will also accelerate investment in GasBuddy's OpenStore software, which brings mobile app, website, email, SMS and social media marketing to c-store companies.
"Gaithersburg, Md.-based OPIS, a subsidiary of UCG, is a leading source for worldwide petroleum pricing and information It publishes daily spot prices for all refined products, more than 30,000 wholesale gasoline and diesel rack prices and more than 110,000 retail fuel prices Through its subsidiary, Axxis Software, OPIS also provides software for petroleum marketers to automate price collection, data storage and repricing of dealer and commercial accounts."

Perhaps now is a time to intelligently and rationally discuss, for the benefit of new ownership, what general improvements in gas price posting we (the members) would like to see, as gas price posting, in the words of the Gas Buddy logo ("Consumers working together to save on gas") is the primary purpose of this website. Discussion might encourage Gas Buddy (the staff of which will apparently be retained by OPIS) to further improve the quality of price posting.

Discussion about other facets of Gas Buddy, the discussion forums, prizes and drawings, information about the energy sector, etc., could be in other topics.

For the sake of discussion, perhaps we can start by asking the moderators:
As OPIS already obtains and publishes retail prices, Gas Buddy will continue to be a primarily member price posting activity, or should we expect that price posting will move from member-contributed to input from other OPIS automated activities and/or greater "Gas Buddy Direct" (i.e., prices being updated by individual gas stations) activity.

Updated link (PD)



[Edited by: PD at 3/4/2013 10:58:23 PM EST]
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: May 24, 2013 4:52:30 PM

tomknox2001 PTU --- Pay To Use
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tomknox2001
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Message Posted: May 24, 2013 3:14:15 PM

> "It would be suicidal from a business perspective to try to make GB a PTU site"

"PTU" ?
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gaspricepasser
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Message Posted: May 21, 2013 3:52:22 AM

It would be suicidal from a business perspective to try to make GB a PTU site, unless we got "credits" for reporting prices. Otherwise, there will just be a mass migration to other fuel price sites, and OPIS will have bought an empty shell [no pun intended, but left in anyway].
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Sneakers55
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Message Posted: May 3, 2013 10:43:38 AM

As to the OPIS acquisition of GasBuddy: Just as long as they keep around the GasBuddy forums for what amateur radio operators call "chewing the rag" it will be great.

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yuckandmuck
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Message Posted: Apr 20, 2013 7:18:44 AM

Thanks for the confirmation and reassurance CC. Seems like a positive thing overall. The only anomaly I noticed is that at a couple of stations which have cash/credit differences, the credit price was posted by GB_Direct instead of the lower cash prices. This seems contrary to the latest posting guidelines in the FAQs.
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CC
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 1:03:56 PM

yuckandmuck,

We are indeed in the process of integrating more OPIS data into GasBuddy. We're still testing a lot of different things out, but ultimately, we hope it will help keep prices more up-to-date and accurate than ever.

Naturally, this does not discount user-updated prices. GasBuddy users still contribute the vast majority of prices on GasBuddy and are the very reason we are able to do what we are today. Rest assured, nothing is going to replace the need for all of us to work together in updating prices.
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yuckandmuck
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2013 12:36:46 PM

I've noticed quite a few GB_Direct price postings today at stations that were not part of that program previously. Perhaps this is evidence of the OPIS data being integrated? If this results in more up-to-date and *accurate* postings, then it seems like a plus.
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Brindfan
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2013 11:51:22 AM

Making this place a pay to use site would not be a wise move. If they did that, someone would just start a new free site.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2013 10:23:35 PM

@SUVFan - there was a topic or three a while back about this area being not used -- So, at some point they back loaded a bunch of stuff. They still haven't addressed making the list more functional and easy for folks to stumble upon.
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kemorc
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2013 9:46:50 PM

I can voice what I would like to see. I would absolutely LOVE to see what measures can be taken to rid of the cheaters.

another change? addition to ethanol fuels/grades for pricing. Shoot, I wouldn't mind seeing all sorts of things: propane, co2, kerosene... higher octane/racing fuel pricing. That would be fantastic, too!
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SUVFan
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2013 11:49:28 AM

I wandered into the Site Announcements section a short while ago looking for something ancient and found that there have been quite a few "recent" announcements (less than half a year old), including one from March 4th about the OPIS Acquisition and its implications.
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robbybaby
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2013 3:48:19 AM

With as much time and effort that I have had over the years to this site - it would be a real shame if they made it a PTU site. I can imagine most of the rest of us would feel the same....
Thanks to RogerB for keeping updated on this subject!!
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Edpap
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2013 12:30:52 PM

Sometimes change is good...but not always!
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Zimcity
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Message Posted: Mar 5, 2013 12:08:26 PM

Gasbuddy is the 4,574th most visited US site over the last 3 months according to alexa.com

Not sure if this encompasses all the sub-sites or not.

Gasbuddy Unique views look to be between 600k and 1.2M for US domains.

[Edited by: Zimcity at 3/5/2013 12:13:25 PM EST]
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drpepperTX
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Message Posted: Mar 5, 2013 12:03:12 PM

I have to agree with Bar1035, this is a great deal for the parties involved. It is good to see the enthusiasm expressed by PD as well. Run a good business as Gas Buddy and all their staff has done and success will find you!
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bar1035
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Message Posted: Mar 5, 2013 10:55:26 AM

Congratulations to JT and the other co-founders on selling their home grown business. A great example of American Capitalism.
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FULL OF FUN
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Message Posted: Mar 5, 2013 9:36:49 AM

As long as they don't make it a pay to use site, I think it will be a good thing. I think a pay to use site would end GasBuddy.com or maybe that is what they want to do, so the public don't have a hand in letting others know what the actual gas prices are. (just a thought)
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SUVFan
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Message Posted: Mar 5, 2013 9:12:24 AM

26 Million is probably a decent estimate of GB traffic.

Though you don't have to have an account to vote, the weekly poll has drawn slightly north of 23,000 weekly votes since late January (I didn't look back any further). I doubt that it's the same 23,000 week after week, and even allowing for multiple votes from one person from multiple machines or after clearing cookies, 26,000 seems very plausibe over the course of, say, a month.

Not everyone who posts prices votes in the poll. There was a group in the 30 day points list that averages exactly 750 points per day the last time I checked, meaning they don't click on articles, don't post messages, and don't vote in the poll. I'm sure there are many others who post only prices when they come here, but not each day and less than 5 prices. Plus, I'm sure there is considerable traffic that only searches for prices without ever posting anything.


[Edited by: SUVFan at 3/5/2013 9:14:51 AM EST]
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Mar 5, 2013 6:38:07 AM

I agree with RogerB. Gas Buddy is the most accurate site for consumer gas prices.

The GB Direct program has been a mess since it's inception. I don't think Gas Buddy anticipated this when they instituted the program.
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RogerB
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Message Posted: Mar 5, 2013 2:44:47 AM

I believe that the GasBuddy sites ARE the most accurate, complete, and current (timely) price information available. True, there are a FEW incorrect prices posted, but they are a very small percentage of the total prices posted, but there are so many members continuously monitoring the posted prices, that such errors are quickly corrected or eliminated.

The number of complaints about incorrect postings are evidence of this. "If it ain’t checked in the MSL you can’t post it." - I agree that would be a nice improvement.

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teafortwo
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Message Posted: Mar 5, 2013 2:25:27 AM


Good suggestion jrsva. Thanks for bringing it up.
There are several stations here that do not offer diesel .... except occasionally in the deluded minds of several local members ... LOL

The GasBuddy Direct postings have frequently been delusional as well.
I have suggested that if we take in a copy of a screen shot with the delightfully low price, that the station should have to honor the price they have "advertised" on GB ....

I still think it is a solid idea, but that one never got anywhere either ;0}

The biggest bug, IMHO, is the mix of cash credit prices.
Especially if there is no comment for clarification.

I am still chewing on 26 million :0]

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jrsva
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Message Posted: Mar 5, 2013 12:50:20 AM

GB, average accuracy may be pretty good but there are still a lot of faux prices posted. I monitor a limited number of stations that do not sell diesel for diesel postings and a few that do not sell mid and/or premium for those prices. I delete several every day.

The greatest single improvement that could be made to improve accuracy is to link price posting to the grades of fuel available as listed in the MSL. If it ain’t checked in the MSL you can’t post it. That change has been promised for years. Perhaps now it can be done.

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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 11:41:55 PM

afortwo wrote:

"Oil Price Information Service (OPIS) has acquired GasBuddy, the mobile app and website relied on by more than 26 million motorists to pinpoint the most comprehensive and accurate gasoline prices"
and then added:

"26 million?"
and
"accurate?" (adding a second "?")

26 million is how many people signed up as members via the website or the app (and may include app downloaders who haven't actually joined the website but prefer to post as a "visitor"). That number doesn't mean that all members are currently active posting prices or taking part in the discussions, and likely includes very active members, infrequent members, and those who simply signed up and made one message post (without posting a gas price - the 120-pointers as they're sometimes called); others simply lurk in the background taking no part other than benefiting from price posting that others make.

As for "accurate?", I would say that price posting on the website, for the most part has been very accurate. Granted, the website's only as accurate as members posting and typing accuracy, but for the most part, I haven't seen blatant posting of wrong prices in the several diverse Gas Buddy areas for which I post, nor members who have taken over price posting and inundated the site with blatant false posting. Most of the inaccurate website posting I've seen over the years has been isolated posts. As for app posting, despite all the discussion about false price posting and posting for "app awards" (easily evidenced by all the topics and posts asking about the awards, consecutive days, perfectionists, etc.), almost all the app price posts I've seen have been or appear to be accurate.

"26 million" and "accurate"?

I would say that both are correct. For the most part, anyway.
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PD
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 10:26:42 PM

Also, OPIS articles may be posted.

EDIT: If anyone has questions I can try to answer them if I know the information. I'd like to point out that our motto has not changed. I hold the entire OPIS team above anyone else in the industry- any analyst, etc. I couldn't be more thrilled that we've teamed up with OPIS.

[Edited by: PD at 3/4/2013 10:51:20 PM EST]
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PD
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 10:19:15 PM

NHLiveFree,

You've been warned countless times for your own "my way or the highway" approach and your blatant disregard for rules. As for being one step closer to Big Oil, any other conspiracies? It just goes to show how out of touch you are.
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teafortwo
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 9:24:28 PM


Thanks for that link RogerB.

The article information found is .... well, judge for yourself:

"Oil Price Information Service (OPIS) has acquired GasBuddy, the mobile app and website relied on by more than 26 million motorists to pinpoint the most comprehensive and accurate gasoline prices"

26 million?

accurate?

?

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RogerB
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 8:58:26 PM

This appears to be similar to the original article, in a different location: OPIS Acquires GasBuddy

Here is what the National Post has to say on the subject.
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Scrapheap
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 7:10:57 PM

I am going to guess that the link Gas_Buddy provided has been taken down because of newer information. If you look on the left hand side of the screen on that link, there is another link to this newer article.
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SUVFan
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 11:01:34 AM

>"Does this mean that we can now post articles from OIPS?"<

At first I wondered why this was a question, as cspnet.com is not found among the blacklisted sites. Then I tried to access an article and found that the new owner's site requires registration, a definite article posting no-no.

I'd hope that would mean it's an exception, but the golden rule may apply here. After I post this message, I'm going to post the question in PDs Newsville thread.

--------- Edit--------

PD's post appeared before mine, but while I had my drafting window open. If no immediate Newsville changes are planned, then article posts from cspnet.com should still be banned, though that's pretty much PDs call on an article by article basis.

[Edited by: SUVFan at 3/4/2013 11:05:35 AM EST]
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PD
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 10:57:48 AM

You will probably not notice any significant changes immediately. The site is still run and managed by the same people. The OPIS aspect will help fund improvements and allow hiring. You all know that GB has been a smaller community driven site. It's obviously gotten big, and while we don't anticipate much changing that you'll notice, it will help in the long run as we hire people to implement some of the suggestions you've been making.

I can't envision a day when this site ever becomes pay to use. In addition, I'm not sure about the news. Not much will change there- at least immediately. We're going to look at the biggest challenges first.
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MARIOWERX
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 10:53:31 AM

Well possibly explains quantity of members over quality of members posting prices dilemma.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 6:52:30 AM

They will agree in my area DavisSta. There are very few dual priced stations.
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teafortwo
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 2:23:04 AM


Interesting question MidNJ. I second.

Interesting observation and question Cake. I also second your question.

So,

"Does this mean that we can now post articles from OIPS?"

"Just wondering if GB will continue to the bastion of NeoCons, or will it become more neutral in its outlook?"

And may I add, will there be more moderation? :0}

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DavisSta
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 2:06:58 AM

It will be interesting to see whether the acquisition has any effect on straightening out the cash versus credit price reporting confusion. The prices OPIS collects (reported on sites such as AAA, MSN Autos, and Mapquest) are credit card prices from Wright Express transactions. GasBuddy prices, according to current policy, are supposed to be cash prices (although credit prices are often reported). Therefore the OPIS and GasBuddy prices will not agree at many stations.
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Alex9990
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2013 9:45:12 PM

@Gas_Buddy: Calinda0530 was making light of the fact that OPIS did purchase Gas Buddy and there is always the chance they turn this site into a pay to use site. My opinion is that will never happen.

It's a win-win for both companies but no way will they turn this into a P-T-U site. Although, there is possibility of OPIS possibly putting more $$$ into this site.
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LetemEatCake
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2013 8:39:36 PM


Just wondering if GB will continue to the bastion of NeoCons, or will it become more neutral in its outlook?
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2013 8:14:36 PM

Calinda0530:

You wrote:
"I just hope that, as a result of the transition, we find ourselves on a PTU (Pay-To-Use) site."

Can you explain why you hope the site becomes a Pay-To-Use (or membership fee) website?

Are you also suggesting that the app be a paid-app or subscription fee app, in addition to the website being Pay-To-Use?
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MidNJ
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2013 7:57:01 PM

Oil Price Information Service is located in Wall, NJ. Very close to where I live. I drive by their offices.

In the past articles from OIPS were removed from the news forum. (Was OIPS considered competition?)

Does this mean that we can now post articles from OIPS?
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livedream
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2013 7:32:54 PM

Thank-you for the update.
This will be interesting.
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teafortwo
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2013 4:16:36 PM


This is interesting.
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Scrapheap
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2013 9:44:59 AM

jes wrote > As far as any changes or improvements, OPIS will do things the way they want to do them. Sure, they'll listen to our suggestions, but in the end they'll do what they want. That's just how it is in the corporate world.

Pretty much the way it has been here for years. In fact, I think they stopped listening at all.
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jes
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2013 8:10:34 AM

Time will tell on how this all plays out. As far as any changes or improvements, OPIS will do things the way they want to do them. Sure, they'll listen to our suggestions, but in the end they'll do what they want. That's just how it is in the corporate world.
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Calinda0530
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2013 8:10:01 AM

I just hope that, as a result of the transition, we find ourselves on a PTU (Pay-To-Use) site.
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DoctorV
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Message Posted: Mar 2, 2013 10:01:10 PM

I'd gladly trade points for access to their paid subscriptions or data.
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GoGoGoodyear
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Message Posted: Mar 2, 2013 7:44:26 PM


Well, if OPIS wants to know what the members think needs improvement all they need to do is read through TBTU and Improvements forums. There are years worth of good suggestions and bug reports.
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Message Posted: Mar 2, 2013 7:38:38 PM

Good idea consolidating. Just will have to wait and see.
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Message Posted: Mar 2, 2013 7:34:12 PM

It would be helpful if the site did not allow prices for fuel types that aren't sold, i.e.: midgrade @ Sams and diesel where it is not available.

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Mudsprings
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Message Posted: Mar 2, 2013 6:45:04 PM


I like the whole idea.

PD, how can you make your window so much smaller. Just like magic.

It would be nice if I could get my MSL access back so I can edit stations again. That's the only thing I miss and could live without if it had to be. You didn't read it here. LOL

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Message Posted: Mar 2, 2013 5:19:55 PM

l just don't want to lose the GB's l have befriended. Smile.
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yuckandmuck
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Message Posted: Mar 2, 2013 2:01:24 PM

Thanks for the update PD, and for the reassurance about spotter-provided data from this thread. I'm interested to learn more about how the new (OPIS) and existing (spotter-provided) data will be integrated.
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