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saxonsraven1

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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2013 9:30:47 AM

I have joined this website one to find the cheapest prices and two to alert people to the fact that people are posting fake prices. For one carroviejo is one who says a gas station in Rocky Point sells Diesel at $4:09 . They don' t sell diesel period.
If you want the points at the expense of people runing out of gas your not much of a man.
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Don
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Message Posted: Mar 6, 2013 12:09:09 PM

saxonsraven1,

As you may already know, all prices on GasBuddy are posted by local volunteer spotters.

We do have systems in place (automatic and manual revision checks) however, with the volume of data that comes through the sites and applications it is not possible to review every single price submitted through GB.

That is why we ask users that, as a user driven service, if they notice an inaccurate or outdated price on GasBuddy, they please update it with the current price for everyone else in your area to see.

Otherwise, both registered and non registered users can contact us through the Leave Feedback area of the Contact page to report 'Incorrect Prices' (drop down menu item).

Ideally the reporting user will let us know the username of the poster, the station details (station name, address, area, state/province) and approximate time posted, so we can review their prices and bring it to their attention.

I'd say this topic has ran it's course, it's been over a month since the topic date, the wrong price is long outdated, and we've seen little input from the OP.

-Don


[Edited by: Don at 3/6/2013 12:09:53 PM EST]
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Mar 6, 2013 11:16:23 AM

"The mobile app limits our ability to spot internet posting, plus the internet prices are increasingly reliable."

True, but I don't think it's necessary to know if a price was posted via the app or the web. I post 99% of my prices from the app but I spend a lot of time on the web site as well.
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SUVFan
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Message Posted: Mar 6, 2013 11:06:34 AM

To those dismissing saxonsraven1's issues and concerns because they're new, I'll point out that none of us have been in their shoes.

When most of us joined, there was no mobile app. The big deal during my early tenure was prices posted from the internet that were not personally observed. Folks doing that stood out back then just based on the sheer number of prices some posted, typically all over town at the same time.

The mobile app limits our ability to spot internet posting, plus the internet prices are increasingly reliable. But the mobile app with all the awards has created a new issue that is particularly troublesome for diesel buyers. If a lot of diesel prices are being posted incorrectly and someone, such as saxonsraven1, is trying to actually use the site for its intended purpose -- finding the lowest available gas price -- then their frustration with the site is extremely understandable and their suggestion that the site is useless to them is quite accurate.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Mar 6, 2013 9:11:59 AM

If someone is posting a price for a grade a station doesn't carry, zero it out and report it to the moderators.
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Scrapheap
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Message Posted: Mar 6, 2013 8:55:25 AM

ElsieL - In order to zero out (delete) a price
1) You must have more than 10,000 points.
2) The price can not be older that the expiration time for the site the station is in (in the case of New Jersey, that time is 24 hours during the weekdays and increases to 36 hours during the weekends).
3) You must use the full site.
4) You must use the full site, not the mobile sit or an app.
5) You must search for the bogus price using either an area search or the map, physically click on the bogus price and enter a price of zero. Entering a price of zero using report a price, an FSL, the mobile site or the app will not work. You must search for the price and click on the bogus price.

If the price is older than the expiration time,of the site, for example you can see a prices up to 96 hours old using the maps, update the bogus price so it has a current time stamp and then delete that price using the method above.

[Edited by: Scrapheap at 3/6/2013 8:55:38 AM EST]
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ElsieL
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Message Posted: Mar 6, 2013 8:44:13 AM

So if you know a station doesn't have diesel and someone has put in a price, if you are updating prices, how can you show that it does not have diesel? What if we put in a "0" or "-"?
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enshaw
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Message Posted: Mar 6, 2013 7:42:58 AM

crazyness
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RogerB
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Message Posted: Feb 25, 2013 3:30:24 AM

This disclaimer is posted on every GB price search page -
Legal Issues: As this site depends on visitor price updates, (location) Gas Prices is not responsible for information inaccuracies, inconsistencies or errors.

Despite this, Gas Buddy sites have become one of the most complete and accurate sources for gas price information available.

If saxonsraven1 chose to not be part of this team, it looks like no great loss!

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tdioiler
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2013 11:36:16 PM

I'm with Saxon on the point of people posting prices when there isn't a pump on the station listing. It's not the points thing that bothers me, but the posting fuel that isn't there! They should have learned there are faster ways of getting points.

Sort of what Benz4matic did last week. No pump; I checked as I thought they might have installed one lately. Just pushing buttons for points.

And the 'mistake' would be viable if there was a station even a half mile away. So Gas_Buddy you point about the site being only as good as it's member is spot on!! Call 'em out for corrections. I've had to quickly repost before as I have made the mistake too; but no pump, no sign, no local alternative? Now your running on fumes, or standing too close to the pump :)
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jrsva
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2013 1:45:12 AM

My, what a sour attitude, Saxon. You could have posted correct prices for that station and perhaps others. You could also monitor reports of incorrect diesel prices and report them to the Moderators if there is a consistent problem; perhaps this was just an error. In about two weeks you could have enough points that you can remove bad price posts. I’m guessing none of this will happen. Don’t let the door smack you on the way out.
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Byte_Doctor
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Message Posted: Feb 6, 2013 9:40:47 PM

bicycler

You get 25 points for loading the page with the news article, 20 points for posting a response, then (and this is the tricky part) 25 more points because the new article page loads again to show your new post, giving you 70 points. It is just like if you load the news article and hit the reload page button in your browser, then posted a response to a non-news article. Make sense?
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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Feb 6, 2013 6:26:40 PM

Posting a price for a non-existent fuel/grade would be a foolish way to reach one's point maximum when only five valid prices are needed. That statement stands even if someone is taking the shortcut of repeating existing prices. More likely the reporter is just mistaken, which can be controlled by monitoring your local stations and reporting any repeaters to GB.

Close-up eyeballs on one's local stations is the way to keep GB pricing valid and accurate.
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bicycler
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Message Posted: Feb 6, 2013 1:27:10 PM

saxonsraven1; 1- Or woman 2- I have found a strange one: when I post a`Reply` to a `News item` I earn 20 + 25 points, but I get 70 points!
I still continue to read 5 items or more as well as 5or more posts to get 225 in total!
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2013 8:00:57 PM

Sorry, saxonsraven1, but I must not be understanding your post.
I understand you joined Gas Buddy to find the least expensive prices for fuel, but you also joined to alert people that another member posted a false price?

Maybe I'm naive but you're calling out the other member saying "your not much of a man", but are you sure that the diesel price post wasn't a mistake? Maybe the member confused two stations, or erroneously posted to a station on his/her favorites' list?

As for:
"The average diesel price on Long Island NY is about $4:19 to $4:59 so if anyone thinks it going to get cheaper think again."
The member in question, carroviejo, a long time member, has posted diesel prices for three different stations, one each $4.01, $4.25, and $4.26. He's also posted gas prices for a number of stations, none of which seem to be in question. Not knowing which of the three stations doesn't sell diesel (f any doesn't), it's entirely possible that one of three posted prices was a simple typing error. Those things do happen, an it's a more common typing error on mobile devices because of the small keyboard. And, considering that all other price posts he/she's made seem to be reasonable, it's all the more likely that the diesel price post was an honest or inadvertent error.

"As to allowing fake prices to get point makes this website validity a joke, if I find this to be an issue on LI I will leave and go elsewhere."

No one has suggested fake prices be allowed, but the website doesn't independently check fuel prices as other websites (MSN Auto, Motor Trend Gas Prices, AAA, among others); gas and diesel prices on Gas Buddy are posted by members, updated by members, and corrected by members. If you don't have confidence in the price posting of others (just as if they don't have confidence in your price posting), then it's your choice to go elsewhere. After all, this website is only as good as the input of the members, almost all who try to be accurate and help their fellow members be more informed and knowledgeable about fuel prices, just as they're appreciate the help of others such as you.
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CelticHeart
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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2013 5:08:00 PM

Wow, such an attitude. Brand new member and already talking about leaving and knocking the site? Why not stick around, post some prices and help others. In no time at all, you'll have enough points to correct the wrong prices.

This website is very valid. It has helped me very much over the years.

And the word you want is "you're".
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Scrapheap
Champion Author Virginia

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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2013 3:51:46 PM

Thanks for nothing.
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saxonsraven1
Rookie Author Long Island

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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2013 1:03:08 PM

Wait till they need gas.
The average diesel price on Long Island NY is about $4:19 to $4:59 so if anyone thinks it going to get cheaper think again.
As to allowing fake prices to get point makes this website validity a joke, if I find this to be an issue on LI I will leave and go elsewhere.

[Edited by: saxonsraven1 at 2/2/2013 1:05:49 PM EST]
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Scrapheap
Champion Author Virginia

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Message Posted: Feb 2, 2013 11:06:46 AM

Hopefully you will contribute spotted prices to the site as well.

The problem you brought up has been an ongoing problem ever since the app awards were introduced. There doesn't seem to be much concern amongst TPTB regarding the issue.
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