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DoctorV

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Message Posted: Jan 22, 2013 3:23:24 PM

I'm new here but I occasionally notice what looks like points or award level cheating. Today, a member in my area posted the same prices at over a dozen stations for each brand: 3.29, 3.39, 3.49, 3.79. I noticed hours later, as I drove around my city, that most of them were incorrect. I suspect the member was trying to reach a new level in the perfectionist category. I don't care if they are cheating to get points, I just don't like having incorrect price data out there. What do you do or recommend, if anything?
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krazkar
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Message Posted: Jun 2, 2013 4:33:28 PM

I suspect you are right plastic. I hope the mods caught it. I still rather just write on their wall and tell them to smarten up. I wonder why some are on gasbuddy. Just to troll I guess.
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plastic
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Message Posted: Jun 1, 2013 9:44:15 PM

Well maybe your note to the mods worked since that guy disappeared. Good job! The mods are pretty busy and can't always respond immediately.
Totally agree with you about the cheaters. Problem is that there is value in making posts, right or wrong.
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krazkar
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Message Posted: Jun 1, 2013 11:24:46 AM

I know I should of fixed the price when I knew it was wrong. Here in Alberta, most stations only show the price for Regular. So if you update mid and Perm, you need to go up to the pumps and look. Many stations are differant for how they price mid and prem. Someone updated thise grades like a station nearby. Sorry, but I like to see how people update prices. Many just copy, they don't take the time to check. Why be on Gasbuddy is all you are going to do is copy the price that is thare?
As for writing on peoples whiteboards. Maybe some never notice, but some do. I have seen some change their updating practices after writing on their walls. One 'red' guy, it lasted for a couple of days and he went back to making up numbers. Writing to the moderators has done nothing.
I wrote on a guys wall saying that for being on Gasbuddy for 10 days and all you do is copy prices and many are wrong. Smarten up. Yea that is a real threat. He kept doing this for a few more days. He seems to have vanished, so maybe the moderators have done something.
Say what you will, maybe I shouldn't care when people just copy.
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plastic
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Message Posted: May 31, 2013 9:13:27 AM

Krazkar, your post brings up a lot of questions:

>"I was watching a station where I saw someone post the wrong mid and prem price. For almost a week everyone just copied the wrong prices. I finally put the right price on and now my price gets copied."

Why didn't you put the right prices in at the time you noticed them for that week?

>"Most times they do, but I have also gotten in trouble from the moderators for doing this."

Most times they do? That seems to be a stretch as many app users never check their whiteboard. I don't know of anyone who has had much success contacting people who are abusing the site. Also, how could you possibly have gotten in trouble from the moderators? That seems like an all-out lie. The moderators do not care what you do on a whiteboard unless it's a direct threat. They'll refer you to the block feature. Also, if someone was abusing the system, then why would they report you?

Sorry but your stories just don't add up.
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kona763
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Message Posted: May 30, 2013 11:31:34 PM

Perhaps the weekly gas card should be based on a random drawing, not points. Still award points to satiate those that like to rack up the numbers, maybe have some kind of "top 10 reporters" list or something. One would think that the limitation of points awarded only for 5 entries per day in each category would be discouraging but if the mis-reporting is being done with malicious intent, well, the points aren't their motivation anyway. It's too bad there are always some people that think it's fun to tear things down, rather than build them up.
I'm grateful for GasBuddy and will report prices I see along my routes anyway, regardless of points.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: May 30, 2013 9:43:03 PM

This behavior has increased with the APPS in my opinion...especially the awards.
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krazkar
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Message Posted: May 30, 2013 9:04:09 PM

I was watching a station where I saw someone post the wrong mid and prem price. For almost a week everyone just copied the wrong prices. I finally put the right price on and now my price gets copied.

I dont have time to email for every wrong price I see. I know we all post the wrong price sometimes, but there are some people who post the wrong price day after day. This bugs me. I find is simpler to just write on that persons wall and tell them to smarten up! Most times they do, but I have also gotten in trouble from the moderators for doing this. I dont have time to email all the people who make up and copy the wrong price day after day. The list of stations and the time.
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: May 15, 2013 10:09:37 PM

It should be obvious that it is necessary to correct the price; this should go without saying.

Unfortunately, correcting the price in the morning and having to do it again in the afternoon or the next day, because the offender either isn't contacted or ignores warning by GB, simply doesn't address the cause.

RG
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Don
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Message Posted: May 14, 2013 3:39:23 PM

A lot of the time we'll get emails such as ex. "X-Member reported A-Price, B-Price, and C-Price wrong, but the prices are actually A-Price, B-Price, C-Price please contact them/ban them/etc".

Because we get so much feedback along those lines, we have a few primary responses that we stick to before jumping to the next email/message.

Typically these are along the lines of "The member has been contacted...", "To delete a price...", or "...If you notice an inaccurate price, please update for everyone in your area to see".

Personally I prefer to use a combination of those responses when I can.

>TxJeans

"I take it to mean that that they would be following up with the member but just might take a bit longer for them to contact the member and it would be expedient for the member to correct the prices as they see them in the meantime."

Bingo!

You can report a user for posting an inaccurate price, and we can respond to those messages when time allows, but if you have confirmed the current price and know what the right price is then ideally we'd like users to correct the price to help keep (accurate) prices up on the sites and apps (but you could also choose to remove the wrong price).

-Don
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rspiano
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Message Posted: May 12, 2013 3:14:13 PM

Here's an interesting response I received from the mods about 1.5 years ago. A "spotter" from San Antonio was coming on the Tucson site and updating 70-100 prices at a time from all over the city, some of which were proven to be bad. I first got the standard "The member has been contacted" response. After a couple more emails from me (I notify the moderators after I see 5 bad posts from one poster), I received the following response, then never saw this person's posts again:After attempts to contact the member about this, with no apparent relief, we've been forced to ban this account. Our developers are going to use the account for testing (to prevent this type of thing in the future) over the next hour or so, so you may still see some posts from them during this time, then all of their posts will be gone. Thanks for your patience.

Regards,

CC
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smugutu1234
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Message Posted: May 10, 2013 7:05:00 AM

I have seen the same thing with other members.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2013 10:11:58 PM

Like Scoutmaster, I too got the same email from "CC" as Scoutmaster did when I reported a poster posting bad prices.

I take it to mean that that they would be following up with the member but just might take a bit longer for them to contact the member and it would be expedient for the member to correct the prices as they see them in the meantime.

[Edited by: TxJeans at 3/16/2013 10:15:41 PM EST]
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2013 8:57:38 PM

Interesting. Here is the response I get from CC.

"Hello scoutmaster,

Thanks for bringing this to our attention. The member has been contacted.

As a senior member, you can delete false prices, duplicates, etc. by clicking the price, and setting the new price to 0 (zero). When you do this, ALWAYS leave a quick note as to why it was deleted in the comments field (just delete the existing comment, and input your reason). Only site administrators can see these messages.

This is typically the best way to go about this as we deal with such high volume of e-mail that we may not be able to address the issue for days or even weeks.

If you have any questions or problems, please e-mail me.

Thanks for your help.

Regards,

CC
GasBuddy.com"
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DoctorV
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2013 12:02:55 PM

QUOTE: "How about copying and pasting that response here, DoctorV."

I did get a personal email the first time indicating that the offender had been contacted. It must have ticked them off because he/she continued, with more frequency, to post inaccurate prices and prices for grades that a station didn't sell. I contacted the moderators twice more and received the following response both times:

"Thanks for the e-mail.

As you may already know: all prices on GasBuddy are posted by volunteer spotters. Unfortunately, with the massive number of prices being reported across our 200+ websites and mobile apps for Android, iPhone, Windows Phone 7 and BlackBerry, prices posted outside of our guidelines do make their way to the price lists, occasionally. While we may not be able to prevent every discrepant listing, we do attempt to remove any information that is obviously wrong.

By having thousands of prices entered daily this is how the process of a "real-time" gas price information system works. Our goal is to get tens of millions of people posting gas prices. Once that happens, prices will rarely be out of date or inaccurate. I'd like to encourage you to post any gas prices that you spot which meet our guidelines. The more current prices there are posted in accordance to our guidelines, the more we'll all save at the pumps!

If you notice an inaccurate price on GasBuddy, please update it with the current price for everyone else in your area to see.

If you notice prices or station information being entered inaccurately by a poster on a regular basis, please let us know the username of the poster, the station details (station name, address, area, state/province) and approximate time posted, so we may bring it to their attention.

Thanks for your help."

[Edited by: DoctorV at 3/16/2013 12:03:44 PM EST]
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RogerB
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2013 10:29:37 AM

Here is a recent example where I contacted a moderator. Incidentally, I have not seen any repeat offenses from the same member (whose name I replaced), so this SOMETIMES does some good.


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SomeMember - posted incorrect prices
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From Me to GB Moderator
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This member (SomeMember) posted incorrect prices that appear to be made up for the following stations. I visited most of these stations less than an hour after the incorrect priced had been posted.

3.21 - Village Pantry
2030 W Washington St & Belmont Ave
Indianapolis - Central
SomeMember
2 hours ago (Sun 7:19 pm)

3.22 - Speedway (Correct price: 3.31)
3250 W Morris St near S Tibbs Ave
Indianapolis - Central
SomeMember
2 hours ago (Sun 7:19 pm)

3.22 - Speedway (Correct price: 3.31)
1404 W Washington St & White River Pkwy
Indianapolis - Central
SomeMember
2 hours ago (Sun 7:19 pm)

3.22 - Marathon (Correct price: 3.31)
1224 S Harding St & W Morris St
Indianapolis - Central
SomeMember
2 hours ago (Sun 7:19 pm)

3.33 - Valero
2504 W Washington St & Belleview Pl
Indianapolis - Central
SomeMember
2 hours ago (Sun 7:19 pm)

He also posted a diesel price of 3.99 at all stations. That was the wrong price at the Speedway stations (too high), and the other stations don't sell diesel.

I posted correct prices for the stations I had seen, and deleted prices for a couple others that were way too low for the area.

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From GB Moderator
-------------------------- Jan 21

Hello RogerB,

Thanks for bringing this to our attention. The member has been contacted.

As you may already know: all prices on GasBuddy are posted by volunteer spotters. Unfortunately, with the massive number of prices being reported across our 200+ websites and mobile apps for Android, iPhone, Windows Phone 7 and BlackBerry, prices posted outside of our guidelines do make their way to the price lists, occasionally. While we may not be able to prevent every discrepant listing, we do attempt to remove any information that is obviously wrong.

By having thousands of prices entered daily this is how the process of a "real-time" gas price information system works. Our goal is to get tens of millions of people posting gas prices. Once that happens, prices will rarely be out of date or inaccurate. I'd like to encourage you to post any gas prices that you spot which meet our guidelines. The more current prices there are posted in accordance to our guidelines, the more we'll all save at the pumps!

If you notice an inaccurate price on GasBuddy, please update it with the current price for everyone else in your area to see.

Thanks for your help.

Regards,

CC
GasBuddy.com

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As the comments indicate, the huge amount of correct prices being continuously posted by dedicated members who make every effort to be sure all posted prices are correct, greatly minimizes the effect of those few "cheaters" who post incorrect prices.

[Edited by: RogerB at 3/16/2013 10:32:53 AM EST]
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RogerB
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2013 10:14:48 AM

SOME incorrect prices may be innocent typo errors. I know. Yesterday I posted prices to the wrong station, resulting in incorrect prices, and a diesel price posted for a station that didn't sell diesel. However, I know that some members deliberately do what you describe, just for points, or other malicious reasons.

When I see this in the area where I post prices, I copy such postings and post them in our local forum, so other members can know which members are doing this. I like to copy the posting from the gas price map which shows all grades at once, along with the exact time and day they were posted, For example: Spotted: Thu 5:13 PM
By: Visitor

Reg $3.69 9
Mid $3.79 9 < WRONG !
Prem $3.89 9 < WRONG !

Marathon
2013 W Michigan St & Belmont
Indianapolis - Central, IN, 46222

Correct Prices:

Reg $3.69 9
Mid $3.82 9
Prem $3.95 9

When any member repeatedly posts incorrect prices, I send a message to the moderators, and they always reply that the member has been warned. Occasionally, members who continue to post incorrect prices despite warnings, have been terminated.

I think the best solution for incorrect prices is the multitude of dedicated members who continually keep the prices posted here reasonably accurate.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Mar 16, 2013 8:16:06 AM

How about copying and pasting that response here, DoctorV. Like Byte Doc posted, I have always received a positive response from the moderators regarding this.
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Byte_Doctor
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2013 8:02:17 PM

That's odd, DoctorV - each time I've reported a member for posting bad prices (usually diesel for a station without diesel), I get a response from one of the mods (usually a day later) that, although very similar and almost form-letter looking, is an individualized response that thanks me and tells me what they are doing about it and to be sure to let them know if the member keeps doing it.
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DoctorV
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Message Posted: Mar 15, 2013 4:55:29 PM

Well, over the past few days I reported a cheater several times but I just get a the same form-letter response basically saying thanks, we're too busy, fix the prices yourself. I tried - probably like many newbies have in the past - and like them, I'll give up trying to do anything about it. At least I'm not in a financial position that I need to depend on price reports to make my budget.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2013 7:00:33 AM

I agree kwzh. I think the time and effort to build such heuristics would be huge and those energies could be steered to more important issues on this site like linking the MSL grades to price postings.
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2013 2:58:28 AM

> How would this work?

It's not an easy problem, but -- like spam detection, or gaming the pagerank system, say -- it's possible to create some heuristics that would detect suspicious situations. I don't know whether it would be worth doing, though.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2013 9:52:42 PM

If you find cheaters, delete their prices and report them to the moderators. I get a response on each and every one I report. Right now, it's the best way.
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kemorc
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2013 8:24:42 PM

"Does it really matter? If the owners of this program were really interested in accurate price reporting they'd. Design interlocks in the software (i.e., a second person reporting the same price within a set period of time before points are awarded) to prevent inaccurate reporting."

How would this work? If the area is plagued with cheaters that just post what is seen on their phone or on the website, then there is nothing to show that it is indeed "valid". Gas Buddy already disables you from posting prices from X amount of miles from a gas station that you are trying to update. Since they already know that you aren't in the area to post the price via GPS, why can't they program it to know where you HAVE been? All I see in populated areas are members reposting prices for every station in the town at the same exact time... and sometimes reposting for ALL grades of fuel for every station in town for upwards of 20+ days in a row just to get that "Top Spotter" position in the app. It's really pathetic.

[Edited by: kemorc at 3/7/2013 8:26:25 PM EST]
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JustMe10
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2013 9:34:08 AM

Does it really matter? If the owners of this program were really interested in accurate price reporting they'd. Design interlocks in the software (i.e., a second person reporting the same price within a set period of time before points are awarded) to prevent inaccurate reporting.
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kemorc
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2013 5:39:46 PM

The contact form that a moderator mentioned a while back is not efficient, as I'm not even sure if they are fully reading the email. There needs to be a more efficient way, other than getting a generic response saying

" We welcome any current prices members are willing to report."

How will THIS stop cheaters? I busted a cheater who posts the same price for most gas stations in town without verifying. How do I know? Because I've seen the prices change and I've watched their habits... they've reposted old prices based on what they MIGHT have seen at another station. And that is the response I got when reporting it.

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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 7:17:50 PM



RogerB wrote:
"I don't think people who post incorrect prices are motivated by points or awards. There are easier ways to earn maximum points and awards than by posting incorrect prices."

Mot really; simply open the app (if that's what you use), click on a station, and repost the same prices already entered. Entering prices "is" the easiest way to earn maximum points and awards; after all, you don't earn "app awards" by reading news articles or posting messages.
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PD
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 4:29:49 PM

Anyone can PM me any time with user name, details, etc. of offender and I'll look into it ASAP.
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DoctorV
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 9:29:42 AM

There are a couple of posters near me who are constantly posting prices for all four grades at stations that only have two or three grades of gasoline/diesel. I'm sure they are just trying to rack up awards, especially the perfectionist. Also, they post all four prices at different stations within minutes of each other, which is possible while driving around town, except that none of the stations advertise all four prices on their signs, and you couldn't possibly pull into each station, look at the pump prices, pull out into traffic and drive to the next station in the time listed. They just look at the regular price and add 10¢ and 20¢ for mid and premium.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 6:47:16 AM

I feel the main reason there are so many prices posted for grades a station doesn't sell is directly related to the app awards. This problem did exist prior to the app awards but it has increased greatly since the inception of the app awards.
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RogerB
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 5:47:28 AM

I don't think people who post incorrect prices are motivated by points or awards. There are easier ways to earn maximum points and awards than by posting incorrect prices.
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brihtniej
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2013 12:19:12 PM

it seems kinda sad someone would want to "cheat" and give ppl false info who actually may rely on the site for better gas savings.
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MARIOWERX
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2013 10:43:19 PM

Report all cheaters to the Moderators with as much info as possible.
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maxstar
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 8:18:02 PM

MiataPrincess: My guess is that that far fewer prices would be updates. When you get a chance, browse through and read some of the other topics in this category and the "Suggest a GasBuddy improvement" category. Many discuss ways or schemes to increase points so that members can increase their chances to win prizes. So the points motivate many to update prices.

Members can update as many prices as they wish. The daily limit of points for the first five updates is a way provide a reasonable "reward" for the updates but not so much that members update solely for points. Without the limit some may be tempted to update prices they have never seen in order to gain more points to purchase tickets.
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MiataPrincess
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Message Posted: Feb 17, 2013 4:17:11 PM

I have noticed similar issues in Iowa posting. Wonder what would happen if you didn't get points..just post prices - period
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2013 9:03:25 AM

You don't have to post a price to keep your consecutive days going. All you have to do is something that earns points - read a news article, post a message in the forums, post a price, refer a friend.
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kemorc
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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2013 12:39:37 AM

REWARDING members for consecutive days posting is doing nothing but fueling the cheaters. It is easy to spot one, because many post prices for all grades... even when the station doesn't carry it. There is no system to punish those that cheat. Is it REALLY that important to be the "champion" of a station in your area that you need to just blindly report prices every single day? It is out of hand. I can understand living next to 4 stations, but posting prices for every station in the area every single day for over a month? Down right cheating.
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boatnut2
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2013 7:36:42 PM

Thank you.
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regulate_now
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2013 7:11:45 PM

Read what the Moderator GM (Ryan/RD) posted about 20 posts below on Jan 22 and follow his link, the rest in here is mostly opinion and views but very good reading...

Welcome boatnut2...

[Edited by: regulate_now at 2/8/2013 7:12:55 PM EST]
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boatnut2
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2013 3:41:14 PM

Newby here. How do I report someone I suspect of cheating?
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2013 7:47:56 AM

@ Peggypat "why are people cheating? "

Because our society has created a bunch of folks that need gratification from stupid APPS awards? Or incentive for bogus points to reach a top of leader board for recognition? Or incentive to try and get more tickets for the gas card lottery they will very likely never win?
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peggypat
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2013 1:12:21 AM

why are people cheating?
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DoctorV
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 4:00:00 PM

Thanks Don. Not complaining, just informing.
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Don
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2013 11:44:09 AM

With the number of sites and apps GasBuddy provides, you can imagine we handle a lot of feedback about users who post prices inaccurately.

Thanks for your patience.

-Don
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DoctorV
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 9:50:02 PM

I have twice but haven't received any response.
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Bruce1224
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Message Posted: Jan 28, 2013 1:10:11 PM

DrV, I hope you're reporting the details to the mods.
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DoctorV
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Message Posted: Jan 26, 2013 10:03:33 PM

Tonight, on the Detroit gas price page, 12 of the 15 highest priced stations displayed were all reported by the same user, and they were all the same price: $3.59 for regular. A quick look at several of the stations showed mid-grade and premium grade prices that were less than $3.59 and reported within the previous hour. I know there's no way all those stations suddenly increased their prices 25-30 cents. So this is another example of someone cheating to get points while giving everyone else bad information.

Meanwhile the first guy I complained about is out there again tonight, adding 10 and 20 cents to every regular price to get a mid and premium price, and reporting every diesel price as $4.09.
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Bruce1224
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 5:20:46 PM

I do what Ryan the mod said below a couple days ago. I report almost all the bad prices I see (there are some times when one digit may be off and I assume it's an honest mistake). It appears the mods sometimes wait to contact offenders until they're reported 2 or 3 times, so it's good to report all the inaccurate posts you see.

Once I get a reply from the mods saying they've contacted a member, I rarely see the member post bad prices or false diesel prices again, whether the member is new or has been active a while.
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regulate_now
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 1:28:33 PM

I have noticed that in my area too, we are not usually the lowest for the state but when we were- lots of "vultures" flocked in to repost the prices so their names would show up as the lowest... I've watched that now here and elsewhere and it seems to happen everywhere, some folks just have to see themselves as special or something...
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MARIOWERX
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 10:51:04 AM

We had a little gas war going on and for about 2 weeks we were the lowest price in the area. I saw names of members I have never seen before or since in this area posting 10 plus prices numerous times a day. Most of the prices were correct but seeing we were the lowest in Vancouver area repeated often as were top of lowest price list. They now seem to have moved to the 5 or so stations in Aldergrove now that the lowest price is there again.
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Message Posted: Jan 24, 2013 9:48:44 AM

If I see them I report them which is what the powers that be want us to do. No sense in letting people get into bad habits then cry wolf.
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