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regulate_now

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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 8:16:29 AM

The Android app updated yesterday (Dec 4) and this morning I found a "Location's Top Spotters" list below the posted prices in the stations details and features. Looks like data fro 5 spotters ranked from highest to lowest for posters of that station, presumably for the number of posts for that station on a daily basis?
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2012 9:22:22 AM

CK's suggestion seems counterproductive. If you are trying to save $$$$ on gas why would you spend $$$$ looking for prices? Isn't that what this site is all about?
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2012 12:02:41 AM

CampKohler:

You're suggesting people drive out of the way or take alternate routes simply because others are already or also posting gas prices on your regular route?
You really suggesting that?
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Don
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Message Posted: Dec 17, 2012 4:24:12 PM

A station's Top Spotter is the user who updates a station the most, with the most prices, within a 30 day period. The number of consecutive days that a user updates the station for is accounted for, but may not always result in a top spotter position.

Let's say I update the same station as someone else on a daily basis, and that this station sells regular and premium gasoline. If I update the station for regular fuel for 30 days straight, and someone else updates the station for regular and premium for 30 days straight, they would become the top spotter for reporting the most prices at the station in 30 days. In another example, if another user updated the station 15 times in a 30 day period, but I updated the station 15 days consecutively, depending on how many prices I posted at that station, combined with having the longest streak updating the station, I would be the top spotter.

I hope this explanation helps clarify how the Top Spotter's are calculated.

-Don

[Edited by: Don at 12/17/2012 4:25:50 PM EST]
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Dec 17, 2012 5:12:04 AM

I wouldn't alter my route because a station was posted a lot! That is just silly!
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Scrapheap
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Message Posted: Dec 15, 2012 10:28:24 PM

This stupid feature doesn't even work right. Stop wasting time with it. Just get rid of it.

[Edited by: Scrapheap at 12/15/2012 10:32:08 PM EST]
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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Dec 15, 2012 5:13:05 PM

I see some value in knowing the number of price reports for a station. If one knows that 10 people habitually report a particular station, one might then alter one's route slightly in favor of a less-reported station nearby to even out the reporting. So I would view it as valuable planning information rather than some kind of new award fluff.
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maxstar
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Message Posted: Dec 15, 2012 2:42:07 PM

Who cares? All those that think the "awards" have meaning. Better just to get rid of all of them.

Perhaps the criteria is in the "What New" announcements.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Dec 15, 2012 9:36:16 AM

My question is who cares?
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petrpuck
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Message Posted: Dec 15, 2012 9:14:24 AM

I still can not figure out how top spotters are calculated. Does anyone know ,or know where the criteria is listed on this website ?
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DavisSta
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Message Posted: Dec 13, 2012 12:23:19 AM

After observing the "top spotters" feature for a week now, I am virtually certain that it does not count postings made through the Favorite Stations List (Favorites in the app). So the "top spotters" according to the app are not really the top spotters.

The other new app feature, the one that asks questions about station features, also does not appear to be operative when postings are made through the Favorite Stations List. Incidentally, it looks to me like the number of questions may be capped at about two per day (not two ever), so over several weeks a user could be asked a lot of questions.

[Edited by: DavisSta at 12/13/2012 12:27:02 AM EST]
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rumbleseat
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2012 6:16:31 PM

I hate to say it, but this is probably the most useless feature that could possibly be added to GasBuddy.
We really don't need more members posting the same stations, we need members posting MORE stations.
There should be, instead, an actual relevant award for members posting the most stations in a given time period that had no prices posted for a certain number of days.
70 price posts for Joe Blow's Main Street Gas every day means nothing, if Frank's GasNGo on Cross Street is not reported at all.
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2012 4:48:18 PM

My first thought was that two questions per member would be plenty, when multiplied by the large membership (even app-only members). But on second thought, since each question is about a specific station, that's going to reduce it again... the relevant question is, how many spotters does a typical station have?

My tentative conclusion is that this information-gathering system might need to be tweaked in the future, but it's probably good to err on the conservative side for a first roll-out.
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RichWLIN
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Message Posted: Dec 10, 2012 8:49:21 AM

There seems to be a disconnect between those who develop the app and those who use it. New versions do not appear to address the concerns of users, but rather consist of modifications that have little to offer. Who here really cares about which member has posted at a given station more frequently? This is just one example of an app update that doesn't make much sense.

Another example exists in this topic where redundant gas station data is being collected just twice from members ostensibly to augment and clarify existing data? When I first posed this question it was out of curiosity, and I really have no problem answering questions or participating in polling if the result is more accurate prices. If the polling were being accomplished more regularly, it would seem to have some merit; however, asking just two questions of members doesn't seem to be enough to matter?

Many suggestions that are widely accepted by members never see the light of day in the app, but these kinds of changes occur periodically and they seem to be of little or no use to users.

RG

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rbrk02
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Message Posted: Dec 9, 2012 10:29:30 PM

Some observations.

It would seem that GB's membership and activity have grown tremendously since the phone apps have been offered. No doubt GB management is happy with this result.

It is likely that the goal of the app development folks is to not only get more people involved but also to get those already involved to become more active. All of the rankings that GB offers ultimately have the effect of increasing participation. GB's are ranked overall on site, given incrementally changing car icons and now there are mobile awards and 'top spotters'. This means more as well as more frequent price updates.

Ultimately, all of these features serve to increase participation among the GB membership. Increased membership and increased participation equals increased revenue.

Also, I have to agree with RD (Ryan) as well as scoutmaster that there is little concern for privacy or security with the limited info that the 'top spotter' rankings offer.
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russiam
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Message Posted: Dec 9, 2012 12:42:48 PM

I like the new feature.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Dec 8, 2012 9:58:01 PM

You said it maxstar! While this is kinda cool, it's not a big deal.
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maxstar
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Message Posted: Dec 8, 2012 8:44:08 PM

Further to my last comment. This new "feature" will also result in a new parade of complaints from those that are "unjustly" not on "the list".
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cookieguru
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Message Posted: Dec 8, 2012 3:52:42 AM

There's a station that I have been reporting once or twice a day for over a year and I am not on the leaderboard.
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DavisSta
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Message Posted: Dec 8, 2012 12:27:41 AM

Here are my comments on this new app feature:

1. The meanings of the number of days--which seem to determine the ranking--are pretty cryptic. For example, the first entry under Location's Top Spotters gives a user name, a number of days, and a "champ for" number of days (for example, "GasBuddyX, 30 days, Champ for 706 days"). Huh? These numbers are pretty meaningless unless an explanation of how they are calculated is given. If three different users post prices for a station on the same day, do they all get credit for that day, does just one of them, or what? How many weeks of data are looked at to determine the number of days? What's the difference between days and "champ for" days?

2. However the values are calculated, they seem to be screwy. For example, for some stations that I do not post regularly I am listed in the top slot as the "champ," but for other stations that I do post quite regularly I do not even appear on the top 5 list (which may include users who rarely post). It looks to me as if perhaps postings through the Favorite Stations List are not being counted in the formula, or perhaps it has something to do with the time of day the prices are posted.

3. I agree with others that this feature would have been low on my list of priorities for the developers to be working on. In my opinion the top priority should be to address the cash versus credit mess.
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Bruce1224
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 5:59:53 PM

I don't think the Top Spotters feature is a bad addition - not a huge help but I don't see it as a threat from stalkers or an incentive to cheat. It's one more batch of info to digest if you want to. It probably would be better to list the station features above the spotters tho.
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maxstar
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 5:56:57 PM

I agree Scrapheap. The station features are far more important as are a number of other improvements that could have been worked on rather than a list of who posted prices.
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Scrapheap
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 5:34:49 PM

Horrible addition. Gives people more incentive to cheat. The station features are far more important than this and should not have been displaced.
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GM
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 12:33:36 PM

>Browncoat1

The Top Spotters feature doesn't say the exact time you posted at that station. It only says how many days you have posted at that particular station.


- Ryan (RD)
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teddytrow
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 12:15:56 PM

Just checked my favorites. I am top poster on 6 of the 7, and second on the 7th. Interesting feature. Doesn't bother me at all. If someone was that intent on something, they would just have to check the app every day. When you check a station, it shows who posted the last price. Which is good to spot the people posting the incorrect prices so they can be informed of the fact.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 11:04:08 AM

Well, Browncoat1, then don't post the same station for an extended period of time. Why you might ask? Someone could glean where you live!

I post the same stations every day and based on that, someone could tell the route I travel daily but not where I live. And actually, I don't care if they could!
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Browncoat1
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 9:28:46 AM

I don't like this new feature, and I provided feedback telling them this.

The web is full of weirdos and unscrupulous people. This data could be used to figure out where a person lives.

There should be an option to opt out.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Dec 5, 2012 8:35:33 AM

Yup that's what it looks like. I wonder what the award means?
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