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Buckeyee

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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2012 5:29:06 PM

I have been told that it has been several years since anyone in Maine was picked for a gas card. Yet I see certain cities picked all the time, and many states over and over again. Why the cold shoulder ?
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GM
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 3:18:55 PM

I'll rephrase what Don said to help clear up some confusion.

Each ticket has an equal chance of being selected, regardless of location. More winners tend to be in larger, more populated areas, since there are more people entering the draw from there. However, entering the draw from a highly populated area does not increase your chances. It's a random draw.



- Ryan (RD)
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Don
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 1:46:46 PM

@ ziyulu,

Residents of Quebec are not eligible to enter the contest draw, this is due to their provincial gaming/sweepstakes laws. You can read more about it here. IIRC this is stated in the contest terms and conditions.

To the OP, the GasBuddy network of websites includes locations from all over Canada and The United States of America. The winners are chosen at random from all of these sites for each draw.

I'm sure one day there will be another winner from Maine. The last time a winner was randomly picked from Maine was during the Prize Draw #21 contest period, where there were actually two winners drawn.

Each ticket has an equal chance of winning, and tickets are not drawn based on any user's point balance or join date. The odds of winning change on a perpetual basis and can be, but are not always affected by the number of users participating from each individual area and the number of tickets that each user submits.

-Don
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 8:35:18 AM

I've never entered and never won! That's not fair!

[Edited by: scoutmaster at 11/19/2012 8:36:22 AM EST]
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CelticHeart
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 8:25:00 AM

You've been told? By whom? Why not research the winners yourself?

No one won from Detroit until just recently. So what?
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2012 6:35:24 AM

Do you have to enter to win?

[Edited by: scoutmaster at 11/19/2012 6:36:37 AM EST]
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 12:47:39 PM

An entirely off-topic diversion form the original post, butbytebug wrote:

"...Yet another example why they should just drop the drawings and force less advertising onto the users of this site – we all win then!"

Sorry, but regardless of what I may think of individual advertisements, there's not that much advertising that's forced upon the members, and multiple members have said they use ad blockers, meaning they're denying the website operators the opportunity to pass on advertising in the most limited way, meaning advertisers have less reason to support the website.

Like it or not, the operators of this website, in my opinion, have a right to make a return on their investment. And their accepting advertising, and me seeing it in what's generally been an innocuous way, means I don't have to pay a fee or membership to benefit from this website's primary function (posting of fuel prices so i can be a more knowledgeable shopper).



[Edited by: Gas_Buddy at 11/18/2012 12:51:19 PM EST]
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bytebug
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 12:28:14 PM

>> except the gas card are donated in part for the publicity…

Even better!

Yet another example why they should just drop the drawings and force less advertising onto the users of this site – we all win then!
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 11:35:51 AM

Byte - I like your reasoning, except the gas card are donated in part for the publicity they get when you see a winner that took the Shell, or Exxon, or Sinclair (wow - haven't seen one of those in years), etc. on the winner's pic and on the list of brands. They would have to say this enhancement was sponsored by the following brands...

Well, maybe that would work, maybe not.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 6:40:55 AM

Dang right it's unfair! I ain't won neither!!
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bytebug
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Message Posted: Nov 18, 2012 3:23:59 AM

Yet another example of "I haven't won so the drawing must not be fair."

Yet another example of why they should just drop the drawings and put the money towards improving the web site.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2012 8:08:24 PM

Buckeyee:

Maybe I don't understand what you wrote when you wrote:
"If gas cards are only picked by sheer numbers of populations in a given area. Then the rest of the nation is just wasting their effort and time....Maybe it is time Gas Buddy followed a fairer method of awarding gas cards."

Are you saying that every location, regardless of size (i.e., regardless of how many members there may be in any given area, and regardless of how many tickets those members "purchase") should have the same amount of "winners" over the course of a year or so?

By that rationale, if there's a Powerball or Megamillions drawing, each location should be winning the prize on a regular basis, regardless of how many tickets may have been bought in a given area. That is, for example, if there were 10,000 California residents each buying five lottery tickets this week and each buying five lottery tickets next week, and there were 100 Maine residents each buying five lottery tickets this week and each buying five lottery tickers each next week, that if California "wins" the lottery this week, Maine should win next week, regardless of how many members in each area bought tickets in each of the areas? Is that what you're saying?

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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2012 7:17:08 PM

OSU grad?

Your chance is as good as any other person entering the SAME number of tickets. The only difference is there are LESS folks in MAINE that enter the contest. So, your moving to one of the states that is listed more frequently in the "winners" list, would NOT improve your chance of winning.

Your chance of winning is independent of the chance of someone from MAINE winning.

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maxstar
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2012 7:00:27 PM

Buckeyee, are you saying the that electoral college should get involved with picking winners?
Sounds like you do not understand Gas_Buddys response. Perhaps bytebugs response will help.
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Buckeyee
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2012 5:58:31 PM

Thanks for the kind words to move, that was very thoughtful. If gas cards are only picked by sheer numbers of populations in a given area. Then the rest of the nation is just wasting their effort and time. Fairness to small states was one of the reasons for the electoral college in voting. Maybe it is time Gas Buddy followed a fairer method of awarding gas cards.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Nov 17, 2012 9:02:15 AM

Well dang! I wonder if the Montana members feel the same way!
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2012 10:04:52 PM

How about for a very simple reason that there are likely fewer Gas Buddy members in Maine than in other states or perhaps even areas, and that because there are more members in other areas posting gas prices frequently, they earn more points that can be exchanged for more tickets than other "smaller" locales.

If there are 100 Gas Buddy members in Maine and 100 in New York City, and 100 in Long Island, and 100 more in the rest of New York, and all the members maximize their point earnings, it's simply laws of averages that there will be more New Yorkers (collectively) winning. And if there are more New York City or Los Angeles or Chicago Gas Buddy members than there are in all of Maine...

And, as you said "I have been told that...", there are only 52 drawings per year and more Gas Buddy sites than that; there are simply more places eligible to win than there are drawings in a year.

As for "Why the cold shoulder", are you saying that there should be a gas card winner from Maine simply because there hasn't been one in a while?
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2012 7:37:13 PM

It is a plot against all members from Maine? ;-)
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ziyulu
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2012 5:52:41 PM

How come I don't see anyone from Quebec win?
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buckeyecountry
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2012 5:40:22 PM

Maybe you should move.
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