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mexicomaria

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Message Posted: Nov 1, 2012 8:15:21 PM

Topics moved recently...

God and Jerusalem Get Booed at DNC by Guitarman moved from Political forum to religious debates.

Pledge Allegiance by mexicomaria moved from Poltical Forum to Christian forum.

Is it time for Christians to leave the Democrat Party??? by no1doc moved from Christian forum to POlitical forum.

Christian and POlitic by sissurf....moved from Christian forum to Religious Debate forum.

Censorship by mexicomaria moved from POlitical Forum to Talk to us forum, and then locked.

There is one more....I have to talk to the author then I will get back.

My question is...is it the same folks getting topics moved each time as a way to get even with folks (like pack hunting, pack banning and pack moving.?...Do you actually take into account that the author wanted a certain group of folks to discuss the topic?

I actually wanted the Political forum to discuss if they believed the Pledge of Allegiance was relevant anymore....also did most states still say the Pledge of Allegiance.... and where the Pledge was no longer said, was the state predominately liberal or conservative. Now it is in the Christian forum where this is not something they will discuss..

Could you tell me the average of topics you move a month?

I have written you before about same topics replicated four times in the Christian forum and nothing happens. Three could be deleted by keeping oldest....nothing happens but many Christian topic starters get their topics moved.

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GM
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Message Posted: Nov 9, 2012 12:20:53 PM

>mexicomaria

I can assure you that topics being posted by Christians are not the only topics being moved, as the title of your topic indicates.




- Ryan (RD)

[Edited by: GM at 11/9/2012 12:22:06 PM EST]
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Don
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Message Posted: Nov 9, 2012 12:19:37 PM

GasBuddy is not a politically or religiously biased website, we're here to offer users a platform to help one another to save on gas.

We cannot guarantee that users will always post topics in appropriate forums. These can and will be moved, closed, or deleted by a moderator's discretion (which might not always be correct).

With this being said, there are forums allocated for political and religious discussion, but that does not make this the sole purpose of our services.
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Nov 9, 2012 3:45:19 AM

Sounds like a mistake to me. You can probably just request for it to be moved back. I recommend doing that by using the "Report Abuse" button on that thread, even though it's not abuse.
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mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Nov 9, 2012 2:07:45 AM

No, sissurf, both I and Gman have had topics moved from the Political Thread.

I have changed the name of Christian topics now. I call them Nomadic topics. hahahhaha

Remember the song...Rollin' Rollin' Rollin'....well, we have a similar theme song...we Christian topic authors..... Movin' Movin' Movin....keep those topics Movin'...keep those topics Movin....backside... (-;

I call it "pack movin'"

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HELLRAZOR
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Message Posted: Nov 9, 2012 1:01:26 AM

But no one pays attention to the trash talk on the sports threads...LOL!
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sissurf
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Message Posted: Nov 8, 2012 11:07:22 PM



Well for the first time ever, my topic "Get a Load of this...... !"

was moved from the political threads to the Christianity thread, and for the life of me, I cant's see what a mural of Obama on election day, has to do with Christianity.

First time a thread every got moved from the politic section,
most of the threads are moved from the Christianity threads.

I feel so honored.
I got the first blue ribbon!

What mexicomaria said. ;)


[Edited by: sissurf at 11/8/2012 11:10:55 PM EST]
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mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Nov 8, 2012 11:06:11 PM

Next Christian topic was moved today...that makes seven in about a month.

Today, "Get a Load of This" written by a Christian, sissurf, about Pres. Obama's face being painted in a voting site, which is against voting law.

That got moved from Political forum to the Christian forum. I guess I do not see anything Christian about that topic other than the OP.

This is never explain or the OP is never notified.



[Edited by: mexicomaria at 11/8/2012 11:06:55 PM EST]
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dirt girl
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Message Posted: Nov 8, 2012 12:47:18 AM

"Some people attach a smiley to every message they post, whether or not it was satire. It's not as meaningful as you might think."

It isn't? ;)

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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2012 11:17:25 PM

@kwzh "Some people attach a smiley to every message they post, whether or not it was satire. It's not as meaningful as you might think. "

But, we don't have much else to work with...
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2012 3:03:10 AM

Some people attach a smiley to every message they post, whether or not it was satire. It's not as meaningful as you might think.
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HELLRAZOR
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2012 8:28:58 PM

I guess no one sees the fighting in the sports fourms....
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Nov 6, 2012 7:11:27 PM

@ Maxstar -- did you not see the " ;-) " at the end of my suggestion?

This forum software is really limited and lame. Needs some good emoticons!

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mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Nov 5, 2012 8:46:08 PM

In the beginning everything was in one forum.....didn't work. I believe that the mods have done a good job of making categories that everyone can find some interest in.

It just seems of late that Christian posters get their topics moved often...but, it is due to complaints of posters.

Right now I find it interesting that one man's topic did get moved to where the mods felt it should be (POlitical Forum). It's title was "New Christianity in the News". Then all of a sudden it is gone all together. Mostly folks that are OP's just want an explanation of what is going on.

Some topics have been moved twice.....seems almost like it is meant to be a burr under yer fur.
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maxstar
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Message Posted: Nov 5, 2012 8:15:01 PM

TxJeans: I agree that they don't relate to gas, but I would rather a category for each. Without those categories, those "discussions" would end up in the rest of the categories.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Nov 5, 2012 7:58:13 PM

Here is a solution -

Get rid of both the Religious and Political forums...they don't relate to gas and are probably the ones that need the most moderation. ;-)
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cookieguru
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Message Posted: Nov 5, 2012 7:17:51 PM

How about one forum "Religion and Politics" and then all the complaints of moving will cease. But then new complaints of a merged forum will come up...
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mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Nov 5, 2012 12:10:30 AM

Could you tell me where the topic "New Christianity in the News" by TankerCA is now? It was in the Christian topic and then moved to the Political Forum and Zimcity commented on the fact it didn't belong in the POlitical Forum. Well, no one else felt it did either....certainly not the OP...but, you moved it to the Political forum....now it seems gone altogether.

Is it possible to move it back to the Christian Forum? or did you delete it all together?
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flyboyUT
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 3:56:37 PM

Maybe the mods might consider the intent of the Original Poster. Usually they have a reason for putting a topic in one forum or the other.

Agreed that the mods may not wish to get in an argument over it. No problem there at all. But maybe they might be slower on changing things just because a select few want to see a change. This select few also seems o wiah to silence all too many people they disagree with.

It is very possible the few get their wishes often because no one else states a position to the operators of the site. It would be interesting to know the answers to some things. I bet its more a function of the squeaky bearing gets a shot of grease than any plot involving the mods.
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GM
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 3:50:58 PM

>mexicomaria

We move topics when we see fit.

"I am bringing this up mainly because I would like to make you aware of trends that are happening on here "

What trend are you seeing?

As Don said, what if a topic involves both Politics and Religion? We have to chose one category to put it in. Not everyone is going to be happy with the decision that is made but it has to be made.



- Ryan (RD)

[Edited by: GM at 11/2/2012 3:53:15 PM EST]
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mexicomaria
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:43:14 AM

Thank you, Zimcity....you found the sixth topic that was moved from the Christian forum to the Political forum....I was having a brain fart.

"New Christianity in the News" by Tanker was moved from Christian forum to the Political Forum to the Political Forum. It had been in the Christian Forum for years.

My "persecution point" is....there is an inordinate amt of Christian topics moved all over the place. I would be willing to bet my first born puppy that it is the same folks reporting that something should be moved.

I had a general Christian Chat topic moved to the "Just of Fun" a few years ago. Now does that make sense? Soon it was moved back.

I am bringing this up mainly because I would like to make you aware of trends that are happening on here.

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Don
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:19:53 AM

Religion and political debate topics are sensitive subjects to many, it is understandable the users will not agree with everyone on the degree of separation between politics or religion (some users will or will not say these fall hand in hand) and these discussions can get quite heated.

It is important to note that if users start excessively arguing or attacking one another, or if the topic goes way off base etc. then it can or will still moved/closed/deleted by a moderator's discretion, just as any other forum or topic (not just religious or political debate topics. If this happens, we are not picking on you, as I already said, in the event a topic is moved please do not take it personally).

I'll reiterate (because I want to stress this fact) - moderators are not on this website to have political or religious debates with members.

-Don


[Edited by: Don at 11/2/2012 11:20:18 AM EST]
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Zimcity
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:06:53 AM

"In the event a topic is moved, please do not take it personally."

Amen to that! :^)

Now maria, you need to get away from your persecution mindset. While, I am not sure what motivates people to report topics to be moved, at times the discussion does veer into something more appropriate for a different category.

For example, there is/was a topic in US Politics about Christianity in the News or something, which seemed to me to be in the wrong forum. I might have reported it be moved based on it seeming to be more about religion than US Politics. Can't remember.

I do think you make a good point about the topic originator's intended audience and there should be some method for the author to state their case to the mod's before a topic is just moved.
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gas_too_high
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:06:12 AM

Don, thanks for your comments. My responses below:

"However when a topic is posted that's both a political and religion based "hybrid" topic, there's really no one right forum for it to be placed. "

As long as the topic follows the direction of the originating post, why not leave it where it is, based on the wishes of the originator?

"For example, what forum would you prefer a topic about say, the separation of church and state be placed in?"

If the emphasis is on the constitutional or legal argument, as it is almost all of the time, than that's a political issue. Only if the emphasis is whether a religious group should endorse political candidates or issues, based on the tenets of their religion, is this primarily a religious issue.

As to the Pledge of Allegiance issue that mexicomaria asked about, I note that it has been moved back to the US Politics forum, which in my opinion was the right call to make.

I hope we all recognize that, merely because a political topic takes on a religious "undertone", it does not automatically become a religious topic. Politics and religion have coexisted in the public square for all of American history. Part of mexicomaria's concern, I believe, is that this fact has been forgotten or overlooked.

GTH
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Don
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 11:00:32 AM

@ Scrapheap.

It's the only example I could come up with off the top of my head, but you proved my point exactly.

Now let's say that I'm a user who believes that that particular discussion should be in the religious debate topics, solely because there's a reference to the Church. Then let's also say that me and a number of other users who are under the same impression as I am are viewing that topic in the US Politics forum, and report it for abuse to have it moved out to the Christianity forum.

What would you like for me to say?

Moderators are not on this website to have political or religious debates with members.

-Don



[Edited by: Don at 11/2/2012 11:02:32 AM EST]
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Scrapheap
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 10:48:28 AM

Don wrote > For example, what forum would you prefer a topic about say, the separation of church and state be placed in?

Seriously? You're questioning where a constitutional issue should be discussed???
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Don
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 10:07:32 AM

When users post a religion based topic with political undertone in the religious forums, users report abuse or email us to request it be moved to the political forums.

When users post a politically based topic with religious undertone in the political forums, users report abuse or email us to request it be moved to the religion forums.

These are reviewed and depending on the direction of discussion these can be moved at a moderator's discretion.

However when a topic is posted that's both a political and religion based "hybrid" topic, there's really no one right forum for it to be placed.

For example, what forum would you prefer a topic about say, the separation of church and state be placed in?

It's a double edged sword that that we simply cannot take any sides on, as either political or religious discussions are not the main focus of our sites.

In the event a topic is moved, please do not take it personally.

The number of topics moved in and out of different forums is not something that we can positively provide to you with, as far as I know this is not something that the site keeps stats for.

-Don
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gas_too_high
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2012 6:59:16 AM

I too would be interested in hearing from the moderators on this issue.

GTH

[Edited by: gas_too_high at 11/2/2012 7:00:02 AM EST]
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