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PD

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 4:07:43 PM

Some updates on what we'd like to see in Newsville:

>>>Post news that aims to EDUCATE, NOT PERSUADE GasBuddy members<<<

1) Post news only from respected/credible/traditional news media that can be accessed by all users (no subscriptions/logins). Some examples of these organizations: Media outlets with TV channels (ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, Fox, CNBC, MSNBC, Bloomberg, etc.), Major/Local Radio stations (WBBM Chicago, KNX Los Angeles, CBS Radio, etc), Newspapers with distribution (no online only): NY Times, Washington Post, Chicago Tribune, LA Times, etc.

2) Post news that is on subject with GasBuddy's user base: gasoline prices, driving, car safety, oil prices, refineries, CAFE standards, diesel, car technology, gas stations, industry news. Avoid news that does not pertain to the U.S. and Canada, since GasBuddy's users are from these countries only.

3) Avoid posting any news of issues that are off-topic, mainly political, or controversial, and do not post any opinion/guest editorial or other news piece by contributors not employed by the outlet running the story.

4) Digital ONLY websites are generally not allowed (although if the website is operated/owned by an outlet that operates a TV/Radio/Newspaper, it may be OK- example: MLive.com is owned by a company that distributes newspapers all over Michigan and is OK) A few examples of digital only that are not allowed: blogs such as OilPrice.net, Jalopnik, Wired, AutoBlog, etc. or online news such as Huffington Post.

5) Be careful about posting the source and article title correctly. If either one is wrong, it will be removed. We believe there are some mistakes, yes, and don't worry if your article is removed, just make sure you're accurate :)

We may write your Whiteboard or message you via your e-mail, but we may also not if we believe it to be a small one time mistake. Generally, if we feel users are deliberately posting bad news stories, we may warn or revoke the ability to contribute.

Check back here for periodic updates.



[Edited by: PD at 10/23/2014 12:23:47 PM EST]
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BIGOILEATURCRUD
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Message Posted: Dec 19, 2014 6:19:07 AM


some blogs must be okay
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Jayburt
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Message Posted: Dec 19, 2014 12:53:41 AM

http://fuelfix.com/blog/2014/12/18 is a blog as it clearly shows in their URL..its also the place where months ago they were caught manipulating a AP story,not by removing some of it like some sites do (that only use part of their story, for room constraints) but by moving paragraphs and lines around to make it sound like a different slant altogether, I put in multiple links to the same story posted on several credible sites at that time that had the original AP feed to show the difference.

for that reason fuelfix/blog Powered by CH2MHILL Gas & Oil shouldn't be a valid source for 'news' or a GB source.

We really appreciate you cleaning up newsville PD, and it has made a world of difference.

[Edited by: Jayburt at 12/19/2014 12:57:23 AM EST]
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NOTSOGRN
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2014 11:03:28 AM

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Is it a group of Mods & you that scan the forums or are you the Lone Ranger?
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pmurray63
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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2014 6:52:55 PM

As someone who has griped here in the past about the state of the News section, it's only fair to salute what I believe are improvements.

I see from the posts here that what qualifies as an acceptable source is still being debated -- and I assume that will continue at some level -- but the politics and game-playing appear to be gone, and I believe that's a Good Thing, as Martha Stewart might say.

So kudos to PD and everyone else involved in the effort.
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RoadKing95
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2014 2:38:16 PM

PD, I posted an article on Saturday from Seeking Alpha. I am not familiar with them, so I'm not sure why it would be taken down. I looked at their home site, and googled looking for negatives that might explain why it got taken down and couldn't find an explanation. I posted it again yesterday and it was removed again. Here's the link;

Hydrogen FCV vs BEV

[Edited by: RoadKing95 at 12/1/2014 2:39:41 PM EST]
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BeaconLite
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Message Posted: Nov 26, 2014 9:56:37 AM

Hey PD what with the inconsistencies?? you took this SAME article down last evening stating to avoid Fuel Fix.

http://www.ottawagasprices.com/news/Thanksgiving_gas_prices_lowest_since_2009/94279_591063/index.aspx
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teafortwo
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2014 6:26:30 PM



Sanpoil from Spokane asks:

"I had two articles taken down yesterday and yet I see one of the deleted article I posted yesterday in the top 5 today posted by a different member. What's up with that?

[Edited by: Sanpoil at 11/23/2014 10:26:07 AM EST]"

Good question Sanpoil.

Inquiring minds are eager to be educated and enlightened to the answer ;0}

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Sanpoil
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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2014 10:20:49 AM

I had two articles taken down yesterday and yet I see one of the deleted article I posted yesterday in the top 5 today posted by a different member. What's up with that?

[Edited by: Sanpoil at 11/23/2014 10:26:07 AM EST]
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PD
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2014 10:15:53 AM

I've decided to accept National Journal (for now)
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PD
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Message Posted: Nov 10, 2014 4:32:55 PM

Beacon,

Unfortunately, if I make an exception to add X, then I'm sure I'll be asked why I can't add X, and soon we will be in the same place with news that we were before.

Those sources may have interesting articles, but wait until mainstream media picks them up. If it's not mainstream media, or large media, there aren't as many checks and balances. While some great pieces may be absent from newsville, many more that aren't true or lack detail won't make it either.
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BeaconLite
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Message Posted: Nov 10, 2014 1:09:05 PM

PD, next time you update Posting Tips, could you please update item number 4 to include Breaking Energy, UPI, Shale Plays Media and Washington Times to the list. It would be to everyone's benefit.
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BeaconLite
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Message Posted: Nov 9, 2014 11:32:02 AM

PD!! My article from Breaking Energy via Haynesville was taken down. Neither of these are on the DO NOT list. Would you have the courtesy to write to my WB with the reason why so the same mistake will not be repeated. This is the article in question.

http://haynesville.com/news/id/93711/us-crude-oil-export-outlook/

Thanks
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BIGOILEATURCRUD
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Message Posted: Nov 8, 2014 3:21:58 AM

Today's top story:

The Moscow Times reports

Chinese Banks May Invest $10 Billion in Russia's Sanctions-Hit Yamal LNG

???

but, it is the weekend
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GasMiser718
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2014 4:23:06 PM

Thanks, very helpful. I look foward to lots of posts...
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PD
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2014 11:44:39 AM

doeslayer- that's fine. It's about the source of the article, and only partially about where the story is hosted.

jrsva- enough was said there. I'm on the same page.

BIGOILEATURCRUD- yes, it was yanked because of the all caps. The formatting is important for articles. As is spelling of sources. Accuracy matters.
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teenitup
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2014 9:52:30 AM

Yes, PD unfortunately had a busy evening on Sunday, but took care of those rogue submissions. Maybe they'll slow down after Tuesday?
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doeslayersr
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2014 6:48:16 AM

Suggestion for consideration.

Allow any online (digital) site which posts articles written by and released by the "accepted/authorized" news services such as AP (Associated Press, Rueters, UPI) which is used by a majority of the "news" organizations referenced in the updated newsville posting tips as long as they do not add to or editorialize the article as to fit their view of the world.
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bar1035
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2014 10:16:18 AM

Of course the posters seem to know Sunday is the time to post the climate change articles. They've been doing it for some time.

Like today:
http://www.charlottegasprices.com/news/Fossil_fuels_should_be_phased_out_by_2100_says_IPCC/93376_589045/index.aspx

http://www.charlottegasprices.com/news/UN_Sees_Irreversible_Damage_to_Planet_From_Fossil_Fuels/93382_589058/index.aspx

http://www.charlottegasprices.com/news/Climate_change_fight_affordable_cut_emissions_to_zero_by_2100_UN/93385_589062/index.aspx

With more of the same to come most likely.
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2014 1:24:13 AM

Get a grip Sammy. The point of mentioning The New American in this topic is not to debate the *opinions* it publishes but to assess its merit as a reliable news source.

“It is published by American OPINION [emphasis added] Publishing, a wholly owned subsidiary of The John Birch Society.” I’m sorry that you are naive about these things but AOP does not sound like a news agency to me and I thought that most folks here would be familiar in general terms with the politics of the John Birch Society. Editorials and opinion columns are not allowed in Newsville.

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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Nov 1, 2014 7:02:22 AM

Please see this topic:
about update of LAST POST DATE on STICY threads. I am tired of trying to memorize post totals to know if there is an update to a STICKY.

Thought this was a good time and place to bring it up again since I know PD checks in here periodically whereas moderators and PTB are not seen that much in the SGBI category.

Thanks PD!
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SammyAdams
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Message Posted: Nov 1, 2014 4:04:06 AM

To: jrsva Re: Message Posted: Oct 29, 2014 12:37:19 AM (Printed below)

"About The New American —

“It is published by American Opinion Publishing, a wholly owned subsidiary of The John Birch Society.”

Enough said."

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Enough said? You've said nothing at all. Besides demonstrating your INability to critically analyze an article and articulate an error of fact or opinion, you have resorted to an ad hominem attack on an organization and/or publisher. Such logic ISN'T logic, but rather "name calling"; something abandoned by most people in elementary school.

It's time to put on your "big boy" pants and enter the adult world of intelligent debate. If it gets "too hot in the kitchen", you don't need to stay there.
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jrsva
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2014 12:37:19 AM

About The New American —

“It is published by American Opinion Publishing, a wholly owned subsidiary of The John Birch Society.”

Enough said.

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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2014 12:33:51 AM

>> If you read News Trust about UPI, they quote their source as something called Wikipedia. Good grief! It all goes in circles. <<

CK,
That News Trust website uses Wikipedia's business descriptions and histories for all the news publishers that News Trust provides ratings for. IMO there's nothing wrong with that as long as Wikipedia accurately describes the publisher and it's history.

Notice however, that I found the Wikipedia snippet shown on the News Trust site to be out of date for a couple of publications I checked at random, because Wikipedia has edited or updated their encyclopedia entry about those publishers and News Trust is still displaying a snippet taken prior to the edit.


[Edited by: GoGoGoodyear at 10/29/2014 12:37:51 AM EST]
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BIGOILEATURCRUD
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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2014 6:58:23 AM

About The New American

Details

The New American: The Essential News Source

The New American magazine, published twice a month in print and daily online, is the essential news source for freedom-loving Americans.

Our editorial point of view is guided by our support of the U.S. Constitution and the principles upon which our Constitution is based. Specifically, we want to restore and retain the values and vision that made America great — limited government under the Constitution, the freedoms our Constitution guarantees, and the personal responsibility a free people must exercise to stay free. In the area of foreign policy, our editorial point of view is based on avoiding foreign entanglements and going to war only when necessary to defend our country and citizens. Our purpose is encapsulated by the slogan appearing on the cover of The New American “That freedom shall not perish.”

As you can see, unlike myriad news organs that deceptively slant the news while claiming to be "objective," The New American forthrightly acknowledges an editorial point of view. But, that aside, we always approach the news honestly, relying on facts and reason to make our case and allowing the chips to fall where they may.

Our coverage and analysis does not "rehash" the news but probes deeper to discover the real story behind the headlines. Sometimes we uncover facts the major media want to keep hidden; sometimes we report important stories months or years before they appear elsewhere.

Many of our articles expose media deception and political coverup, and warn against those forces, both inside and outside of government, seeking to consolidate political and economic power nationally and internationally. Such exposures can and do help concerned Americans to safeguard their liberties. Other articles examine the goodness of America and the greatness of our founding principles and offer realistic hope that America can be saved.

Twice a year, The New American publishes a congressional scorecard called the "Freedom Index" that rates every member of the U.S. House and Senate on key issues.

In addition to political topics, The New American also publishes articles about economics (from a free-enterprise perspective of course!), culture, and history. It is published by American Opinion Publishing, a wholly owned subsidiary of The John Birch Society.

still not persuaded


[Edited by: BIGOILEATURCRUD at 10/28/2014 6:59:02 AM EST]
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NOTSOGRN
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Message Posted: Oct 26, 2014 10:03:19 PM

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What was it:
The source? Sabah is a Turkish daily newspaper, with a circulation of around 330,000 as of 2011."Wikipedia"
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The subject? US OFFERS LNG TO EUROPE TO HURT RUSSIANS
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I did overlook the all caps after checking it out for not being an web site only source.
Didn't catch that till after it was posted. If it was the all caps that's also missing in the new rules.
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What is your take on Forbes? I see #3 answers the earlier question I had but, not all of it.
That also reminds me about Magazines in the past they were not allowed. They have been omitted in the new rules.
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Should #4 really follow #1? #1 is talking about the good sources & #4 Would Be immediately following with what's not allowed. Both are talking about sources.
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1)SOURCES:
A. "What is allowed:"...

B. "What is not allowed:"...
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About #5 This has been dropped but, maybe it should be back as it has happened. "Do not post any of your own personal comment or opinion in the news only posting area but, save that for the commenting in the forum's posting area."
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Message Posted: Oct 25, 2014 12:29:05 PM

">>>Post news that aims to EDUCATE, NOT PERSUADE GasBuddy members<<<"

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That, in and of itself, will be the most effective part of these guidelines.

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PD
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Message Posted: Oct 25, 2014 11:49:40 AM

Gas_Buddy- I wouldn't accept Washington Times, either.

Camp- Or you could garner that information here, direct from UPI: http://about.upi.com/corporate/about
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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 4:28:23 PM

If you read News Trust about UPI, they quote their source as something called Wikipedia. Good grief! It all goes in circles.

"We have met the enemy, and he is us." --Walt Kelly

[Edited by: CampKohler at 10/24/2014 4:31:33 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 1:06:34 PM

PD :
UPI (United Press International ) may have changed its business model since it was bought out (I believe when it was near bankruptcy ) but it used to be similar to and a long time competitor to the AP (Associated Press ) in that it provided wire service reporting and distribution by itself and by and within its member organizations, and similar to, for example, the LA Times or Washington Post syndicate. That it's owned by a religious isn't much different than than that Washington Times being owned by a church organization. Are you also advising that that AP articles should not be posted?
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pmurray63
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 11:26:22 AM

I was going to add that unfortunately I'm not sure how I would modify #4. It is challenging. If I have any inspirations I'll add them.

Is there a way to detect a site from the URL address field and compare it to a list of banned sites? I'm guessing it's technically possible, but not simple.
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PD
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 11:20:27 AM

Good points gents,

We may have to eventually allow digital only but it's hard to differentiate what digital only is allowed and what isn't...for people submitting news.
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 11:19:30 AM

Beacon, after reading extensively, I don't believe UPI is credible enough. It's parent company is owned by a religious organization, and according to UPI, much of the content they offer is aggregated from other sources.
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pmurray63
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 11:18:39 AM

Generally good clarifications, IMHO ... except for #4.

I think I get what you're trying to do with it -- screen out Joe Blow and/or his tiny website that have zero credibility -- but "no digital-only sites" seems too broad and frankly backward-looking.
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PD
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 11:07:10 AM

Beacon,

I had not heard of it, but looking at its site to read about its reporting to see if I'm willing to accept it, I will let you know shortly.
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BeaconLite
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 10:09:08 AM

Good Morning PD,
In an effort to work with you and not against you, is UPI a credible source?

http://www.upi.com/
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bar1035
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 9:42:38 AM

Thanks for updating the first first post with a much clearer and easier to understand rules for posting. And the subject matter update in 2) is more in line with the average gas buddy membership.

The only thing I would mention is the submission guidelines when you go to post an article haven't been changed to match number 2).

They still say ..
Relevant topics include: energy, clean energy, petroleum (oil, gasoline, other fuels), automobiles, transportation (primarily autos), vehicle safety. Other stories may be posted, but are subject to removal.

Shouldn't they be updated to match?

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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 4:40:13 AM

Since the digital world is waxing and the print world is waning, maybe digital-only should not be a disqualification. Is the cost barrier of printing some kind of automatic blessing of journalistic excellence? (Say, you have a print run; here's your Pulitzer!) i think this is too simplistic, all for the sake of trying to make it possible for Joe Member to judge things he is not qualified to judge, probably because his attempt to contribute is a limited experience. Perhaps there should be a easier metric for non-journalism-expert members to refer to judge the quality of their article sources.

If we limit contributors to experts (or at least to the most expert members we have), then the problem is solved. But I think the fact there is such a big deal being made over the guidelines says that the policy is that contributors should include the non-experts. So here we are struggling to turn non-experts into experts by virture of improving guidelines. This is like trying to turn all nurses into doctors by improving the Nurse Handbook. It's never going to be as good as you want it to be, and Joe Member is going to be frustrated trying to live up to expectations. There must be a better way, and I am sure you have by now have come to the conclusion that there is no doubt whatsoever that I am about to tell you what it is.

Instead of assuming that Joe Member, even with the best set of guidelines we can muster, is going to consistently hit the mark when it comes to judging news sources, we just assume that he won't. We relieve him of the responsibility altogether! The expert members, whether expert by dint of long study of the field of journalism or a quick review of the latest GasBuddy guidelines along with the gift of convincing gab, collaberate and reach a consensus of which news sources are suitable. These sources are then listed in a topic OP and periodically updated much in the way the weekly polls are selected. There are only so many news sources, and after sufficient work is done, the list will be good enough for the purpose. (Aficionados can argue about additions and deletions to the list until their heart's content without much impact on the work of finding and linking to articles.)

Now Joe Member, having found what he thinks is a valuable contribution, simply checks the source against the approved list and can tell unerringly whether or not to submit, at least on the matter of source. Should he find the list lacking in some way, he can join the group maintaining the list, setting forth such arguments as he thinks will shift the consensus to his way of thinking. But until that happens, everyone uses the list as is and by definition can do no wrong. Perfection is achieved by the least expert members and all the cats are properly herded.

Oh, no, wait... That's too easy and there is not nearly enough drama involved.


[Edited by: CampKohler at 10/24/2014 4:50:10 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 12:59:35 AM

I think some magazines should be considered newsworthy. Magazine articles may not be quite as current as newspapers but they often provide good overview articles that cover what has happened over a period of days or weeks. Longer articles can give a story more context than is typically possible in a newspaper. I would hate to see magazines banned from Newsville categorically.

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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2014 10:06:33 PM

Hey everyone - things are looking good. I haven't been able to spend much time with looking at this or suggestions for wording as I have been dealing with a hospitalized family member, but you all seem to have done and are doing a good job in refining and polishing the wording.

But, regarding " I'll keep an eye on pumps. Keeping in mind with the new rules about what's credible and allowed to be posted, I believe that if article survives my approval, it's fine to pump." I still like the idea of a limit to the number of pumps any one person can do in 24 hour period (either by day or rolling). The reason is, if you follow the whiteboards they actively recruit pumps and I see comments in response that "I only pump friends". The posting should be based on content and not popularity of the poster.

I also like the idea (though it would take more programming) of a 24 hour rolling of top 5 articles as jrsva indicated to resolve the midnight pump it group. Heck, I have even seen them on your, CC and other mod WBs asking for pumps.

Unfortunately, many have been driven away from actually reading and not just F5'ing for points due to the state that newsville got while you were off taking care of other business. It will take time to draw back those folks that gave up.

I also think an announcement with link to the new rules is needed in What's new.

Keep up the good work!

PS - Can we get programming to fix the "last post" on stickies so it updates? thanks!

[Edited by: TxJeans at 10/23/2014 10:08:09 PM EST]
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SUVFan
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2014 8:34:13 PM

It's looking pretty good, PD. But the previous post points out that magazines are not addressed nor is the concept of timeliness of submissions.

Timeliness might be addressed simply by inserting "current", "timely" or "up-to-date" in either or both of the first two paragraphs after the word, "Post", with a definition as to what that means in terms of hours or days if desired for clarity. For example, "Current means stories less than 48 hours old". Or it could be addressed in the "avoid" list by inserting the word, "stale" with an indication of when something is considered to be stale.

You've previously indicated that you'd prefer not to see magazines, I think because they are less newsy. If you still feel that way, they should be worked into the "avoid" list.
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2014 4:50:31 PM

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I would like to bring up Forbes as I caught on to this in very small print it will say: "Opinions expressed by Forbes Contributors are their own" vs staff items.
So I take it some from Forbes maybe OK but, do rule out the contributors as opinions pieces.

I see Forbes being a little tricky as the item has to be looked at...or is there another disqualifier covering Forbes?
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Just before posting this it does look like the Forbes items were pulled today so we can now rule out Forbes or not?

[Edited by: NOTSOGRN at 10/23/2014 4:51:46 PM EST]
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BeaconLite
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2014 3:13:31 PM

Thank You PD for the MUCH improved guidelines. They do not come across like a drill sergeant yelling at the troops.
PD, I can understand it is frustrating for you when members do not adhere to the RULES, by the same token it is also frustrating to see their article removed without knowing why, therefore I would encourage you PD to contact the member via WB to point out the infraction in a positive way. By doing so the member has a better understanding and you will shine as a Moderator.
I will also suggest that before enforcing amendments to the RULES that have not been listed, please inform the member of the upcoming changes before removing their article. You will once again appear as a hero.
Once again many thanks.
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2014 12:57:52 PM

Consistency would be worth ONE THOUSAND WORDS!

The New American Magazine has failed to EDUCATE or PERSUADE many,
but one has to assume it is a vetted news source since being on the front page since midnight.

about

Just a casual observation!
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2014 12:23:22 PM

NOTE:

I have updated the first post with the new guidelines. Hopefully I didn't miss anything. If I did, please let me know.
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2014 11:46:24 AM

Which article, Beacon? Post the link here and I'll explain.
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2014 11:41:55 AM

Good Morning PD, you have once again pulled down an article this morning without sending me a WB message as to what I did wrong. Without your feedback it is difficult to comply to the RULES which I am trying hard to do it adhere to. You have taken the time post WB messages to others, please do the same for me. BTW is Imarketreport on your blacklist, if not please add to it.
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PD
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2014 11:04:43 AM

jrsva and EZExit (and I think bar1035)- I see you in the poll section helping word language for polls. Since I believe at lear jrsva and EZ see where I'm going, would it be possible for you to draft some language for said rules that would completely replace the current "guidelines" that pop up when you're on the page to submit news? We can discuss here about language changes and such.

Bar- as for those two sites, (and other online only news) their reporters/writers/bloggers do not have the same level of credentials that established serious media reporters do, and the level of internal review before pieces are submitted is near zero. This is why I prefer large established news media- the articles are almost always carefully edited and vetted before publishing, and are a higher standard than your run of the mill blogs and online only sites.

Ban_e10- With my monitoring of newsville, I'll keep an eye on pumps. Keeping in mind with the new rules about what's credible and allowed to be posted, I believe that if article survives my approval, it's fine to pump. I've been keeping an eye on things, and I have less patience when it comes to abusing the site (prices/forums/news/etc) and I have had my fill.
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BAN_e10_GAS
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2014 8:24:15 AM

THANKS for your efforts to clean this up. I, too, was really starting to get tired of the renegades who have hijacked the news section.

I had been monitoring the whiteboard comments of some of these groups. A common thread I have found among these are statements such as "You have been double pumped." To me, this implies that some of these renegades have more than one GB account. I thought this wasn't allowed.

A couple of suggestions. 1) Once an article is posted, give everyone the option to "pump it down." If too many people find an article to be biased, then it can be removed. 2) We only get points for posting 5 prices a day. So, limit everyone to 5 pumps per day in the news section.

[Edited by: BAN_e10_GAS at 10/23/2014 8:25:11 AM EST]
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bar1035
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2014 7:41:03 AM

There seem to be a lot of fierceenergy.com and AutoEvolution articles.

Not saying they are all bad or anything. Just wondering about them?

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jrsva
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2014 1:48:30 AM

Patrick, thanks very much for your efforts to reform Newsville. The difference is immediately obvious. One more suggestion —

It appears that the first three articles submitted after midnight ET automatically make it to the Home page, displacing yesterday’s news. That is good in that it keeps the latest news front and center but it is exploited by the post-and-pump cliques to get their stuff onto the Home page. Maybe that problem is being resolved since many of the p’n’p folks also tend to post inappropriate articles, which is now getting them sent to detention hall.

I don’t know what it would take in terms of a programming change but it would be nice if yesterday’s articles were not all dumped form the Home page simultaneously at midnight. Perhaps the Home-page articles could be selected from a rolling 24-hour period instead of a calendar day. That would remove the advantage given to those who always post articles at one minute past midnight and it should dilute the influence of the p’n’p cliques.

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EZExit
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2014 3:21:53 PM

PD, I am delighted that you are taking the time to clean up the news section, it is greatly appreciated. For what its worth I find your edited OP to be clear cut and dry in regards to what is and what is not permitted.
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