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PD Moderator	Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 4:07:43 PM Ignore PD Report Abuse Some updates to Newsville on what's allowed and what isn't. Three strikes and you're out, and since I moderate newsville, I'm the one tasked with judgement. There are contributors to newsville that have never had an article removed, and here are some rules to make sure it doesn't happen to you: Most importantly: misrepresenting the source or headline of an article may lead to more than one strike, depending on severity. 1) Do not post stories from less than credible or un-heard of sources 2) Do not post blogs or magazine articles from any site (OilPrice.net, etc.) 3) Do not post opinion, guest, editorial, or opinion pieces 4) Do not post pieces that don't have a significant impact on a majority of our users (IE- clean energy in Europe, UK gas taxes, car chases, gas station accidents) 5) Do not post articles/news from sites that require memberships or subscriptions 6) Do not post articles from the following blacklisted sites: newswithviews.com, oilprice.net, oilprice.com, nrdc.org, heritage.org, consumerenergyreport.com [more may be added] IF YOUR ARTICLE IS GONE, it is likely because it was a near or exact duplicate of a previous article. It may be because it was viewed as too opinionated, or the information was wrong, too political, or something else. If you didn't get a warning, don't sweat it! If you got a warning, please re-read the rules carefully. You will be warned via Whiteboard, private message, or email. Once you've hit three warnings, your ability to post news will be limited or removed. We are not allowing members to flag other members and are not reading messages from members about policing or articles to remove. Article removal will be solely decided by myself or other moderators. Bad articles may take several hours to remove, subject to other tasks and duties. Thanks for complying and participating. Check back periodically for updates. Replies to this topic may be removed, and this post will change to reflect good additions to this topic made by posts which are subsequently moved. [Edited by: PD at 1/25/2013 3:58:50 PM EST]

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 4:07:43 PM

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Some updates to Newsville on what's allowed and what isn't.

Three strikes and you're out, and since I moderate newsville, I'm the one tasked with judgement. There are contributors to newsville that have never had an article removed, and here are some rules to make sure it doesn't happen to you:

Most importantly: misrepresenting the source or headline of an article may lead to more than one strike, depending on severity.
1) Do not post stories from less than credible or un-heard of sources
2) Do not post blogs or magazine articles from any site (OilPrice.net, etc.)
3) Do not post opinion, guest, editorial, or opinion pieces
4) Do not post pieces that don't have a significant impact on a majority of our users (IE- clean energy in Europe, UK gas taxes, car chases, gas station accidents)
5) Do not post articles/news from sites that require memberships or subscriptions
6) Do not post articles from the following blacklisted sites:
newswithviews.com, oilprice.net, oilprice.com, nrdc.org, heritage.org, consumerenergyreport.com [more may be added]

IF YOUR ARTICLE IS GONE, it is likely because it was a near or exact duplicate of a previous article. It may be because it was viewed as too opinionated, or the information was wrong, too political, or something else. If you didn't get a warning, don't sweat it! If you got a warning, please re-read the rules carefully.

You will be warned via Whiteboard, private message, or email. Once you've hit three warnings, your ability to post news will be limited or removed. We are not allowing members to flag other members and are not reading messages from members about policing or articles to remove. Article removal will be solely decided by myself or other moderators. Bad articles may take several hours to remove, subject to other tasks and duties.

Thanks for complying and participating.

Check back periodically for updates.

Replies to this topic may be removed, and this post will change to reflect good additions to this topic made by posts which are subsequently moved.

[Edited by: PD at 1/25/2013 3:58:50 PM EST]

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teenitup Champion Author Houston Posts:1,847 Points:276,885 Joined:Sep 2012	Message Posted: May 15, 2013 12:12:48 AM Ignore teenitup Report Abuse So will the posted rules above no longer be enforced?
PD Moderator	Message Posted: May 14, 2013 12:05:35 PM Ignore PD Report Abuse I'm no longer performing day to day moderating duties, so news/other moderating issues should be sent to other staff. Thanks guys.
kx250 Champion Author Michigan Posts:3,233 Points:1,114,790 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: May 13, 2013 3:18:43 PM Ignore kx250 Report Abuse I'm going to do some more studying up, to see if CO2 @ 400 PPM is considered green energy, but right now it just seems like newsville is being spammed with global alarmist stories.
EZExit Champion Author Phoenix Posts:10,747 Points:1,735,355 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: May 2, 2013 7:02:54 PM Ignore EZExit Report Abuse I am seeing that a disgruntled castaway member is continuing to sabotage the news section. My suggestion (firewall method), as I had suggested a couple of years ago, would be to allow membership to contribute articles of interest as always, but have the prominent front page links be both of your blogs, and then add three articles from the submissions that you judge to be most topical, relevant, or interesting, manually sticking them on the page. The voting goes away, the tendency to utilize this website as a propaganda machine would be reduced, along with a lot of membership complaints. This way, too, when either of you take a vacation, the other could simply choose 4 articles and the one blog, or five articles from the membership in this manner, and you'd always be covered.
SUVFan Champion Author Columbus Posts:14,173 Points:1,661,255 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: May 1, 2013 12:27:36 PM Ignore SUVFan Report Abuse Good points, EZExit. Regarding the first, I've always understood GBs limit on the size of snippets to be intended to ensure that what is copied falls within the "fair use" exclusion to copyright protection. Parody is another exception, though probably not welcome in Newsville. I doubt that editorials masquerading as news are acceptable to the site, and the name, "Truthout" smacks of editorializing. But are they much worse than the writers at the New York Times?
EZExit Champion Author Phoenix Posts:10,747 Points:1,735,355 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: Apr 30, 2013 3:59:02 PM Ignore EZExit Report Abuse Something that the management of this site might want to consider: Example from today Periodically, a GB member will post an article from a source such as "Truth-out", and there are two issues worth considering... 1)They insert at the end of their pieces, <<<"Copyright, Truthout. May not be reprinted without permission.">>> -This may cause you possible legal actions in the future through no fault of your own. 2) Their article style is slanted, crossing into the realm of editorializing, when the article begins <<<"Truthout is able to confront the forces of greed and regression only because we don’t take corporate funding. Support us in this fight: make a tax-deductible donation today by clicking here.">>> -I can't recall any legitimate news source beginning their articles with a request for money. IMHO, submissions that are published by liberal or conservative propaganda houses should not be allowed and summarily thrown out. [Edited by: EZExit at 4/30/2013 4:02:09 PM EST]
teafortwo Champion Author Washington Posts:22,375 Points:1,412,000 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: Apr 27, 2013 5:50:40 PM Ignore teafortwo Report Abuse Hey PD? Color me curious. Has the site decided to allow submission of opinion pieces in Newsville? This one submitted by NOTSOGRN last night has had Newsville top billing all day long. Harvard's Frack Disclosure Study Earns an 'F' I have some real zingers if we're all now allowed to post editorial & opinion & contributor pieces. Amusing anecdote. I can not seem to get in touch with fracknsave from Grand Rapids to share.
PD Moderator	Message Posted: Mar 27, 2013 10:36:20 AM Ignore PD Report Abuse Post removed. Follow the rules and we'll try and take care of the bad posts.
NOTSOGRN Champion Author Michigan Posts:2,077 Points:1,535,210 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Mar 27, 2013 9:54:56 AM Ignore NOTSOGRN Report Abuse OK says it's a blog in source "Allstate blog" & ends in a ? Why does this article work for GB? . 78 votes High-Mileage Cars: Is 200,000 The New Normal? Allstate blog -- In the 1960s and 1970s, many automobile odometers did not even read beyond 99,999 miles. Hit 100,000, and the odometer turned back to zero. But now, thanks to tougher quality standards and post-recession financial concerns, Americans are driving their cars longer than ever before and high-mileage cars are the rule, not the exception. Is 200,000 miles the new 100,000 miles? Consider Porsche salesman Mark Webber. While selling new sports cars every day for a living, Webber still drives his 1990 Volvo to work, despite having more than 300,000 miles on the car. “I just can’t see the point of spending a lot of money driving a newer, racier car every day in city traffic when my old Volvo just wants to keep on going,” Webber told the New York Times. Webber has plenty of company. While American (read more) Submitted Mar 24, 2013 By: Italianman 618 Comment High-Mileage Cars: Is 200,000 The New Normal? .
SUVFan Champion Author Columbus Posts:14,173 Points:1,661,255 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Mar 4, 2013 11:01:39 AM Ignore SUVFan Report Abuse In a new thread about an apparent sale of this website to Oil Price Information Service, several good questions are being asked. Among them: >"Does this mean that we can now post articles from OIPS?"< As I posted there, at first I wondered why this was a question, as cspnet.com is not found among the blacklisted sites in PDs lead post. Then I tried to access an article on cspnet.com and found that their site requires registration, a definite article posting no-no. Will that site become an exception and become fair game or will the same rules apply going forward to all? ----------Edit---------- While I was putting these posts together, PD posted in the new owners thread, indicating that no Newsville changes are planned immediately. If so, then article posts from cspnet.com should still be banned, though that's pretty much PDs call on an article by article basis. [Edited by: SUVFan at 3/4/2013 11:07:21 AM EST]
WR-INC Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:39,677 Points:3,652,035 Joined:Dec 2002	Message Posted: Feb 4, 2013 5:21:46 AM Ignore WR-INC Report Abuse Oilprice.com again.
lorereme Rookie Author British Columbia Posts:59 Points:219,880 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Jan 14, 2013 1:35:36 PM Ignore lorereme Report Abuse good info
WR-INC Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:39,677 Points:3,652,035 Joined:Dec 2002	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 11:35:52 AM Ignore WR-INC Report Abuse Oilprice.com again
WR-INC Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:39,677 Points:3,652,035 Joined:Dec 2002	Message Posted: Dec 25, 2012 5:45:10 AM Ignore WR-INC Report Abuse Here's an editorial from GasPasserAB: Political rant
WR-INC Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:39,677 Points:3,652,035 Joined:Dec 2002	Message Posted: Dec 23, 2012 6:59:53 AM Ignore WR-INC Report Abuse Another oilprice.com editorial posted by skb69sa.
no8c Champion Author Ohio Posts:2,934 Points:732,100 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Nov 21, 2012 12:19:01 AM Ignore no8c Report Abuse Thanks for posting this!
NOTSOGRN Champion Author Michigan Posts:2,077 Points:1,535,210 Joined:Dec 2007	Message Posted: Oct 31, 2012 7:17:05 PM Ignore NOTSOGRN Report Abuse . . On trying to comply only to find just a few articles zapped now but, heres the but, others will post the same article & it will run its course with out being zapping. I have one today that's still posted by another GB-er @ this time a repost of one earlier today by me that was zapped. . New Lithium Si-Graphene Battery Material Opens Doors . As posted in forum . What cause the zapping? Then allowing it to run? .
PD Moderator	Message Posted: Oct 25, 2012 9:34:16 AM Ignore PD Report Abuse For various reasons, primarily blog sites, less than newsworthy, political, etc.
WxVette Rookie Author Omaha Posts:34 Points:1,027,505 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: Oct 21, 2012 8:10:15 AM Ignore WxVette Report Abuse Why are the following sites blacklisted: newswithviews.com, oilprice.net, oilprice.com, nrdc.org, heritage.org, consumerenergyreport.com?
fracknsave Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:1,666 Points:58,000 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Oct 16, 2012 10:10:29 AM Ignore fracknsave Report Abuse Amusing anecdote. At midnight, after reading t-4-2's submission of a story, which obviously ended in a question mark, (and soon to be zapped,) I scanned up one story with the exact same punctuation suddenly jumping out at me, awaiting the same fate. [sorry, bout that] [Edited by: fracknsave at 10/16/2012 10:12:54 AM EST]
Bill G. Champion Author Hartford Posts:37,889 Points:2,831,165 Joined:Apr 2004	Message Posted: Oct 15, 2012 11:20:17 AM Ignore Bill G. Report Abuse O.K. I have read the above rules. EVERY article I have submitted has been deleted. I still don't know WHY. PLEASE send us an email when you delete our articles so we know WHY they were deleted! Or do I have "3 strikes" already? I don't know, because you don't communicate.
doeslayersr Champion Author Illinois Posts:9,303 Points:899,705 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 10:19:33 AM Ignore doeslayersr Report Abuse If the news source is a Blog, should it be automatically discounted or barred as a news source? Several of the news sources I have utilized in the past which feature articles of a technical aspect concerning energy or automobiles or automotive technology are verboten because of the 4 letter word Blog. I understand the initial reason for banning ALL Blogs as the vast majority of the political and environmental diatribes are Blog based. I believe it is understood political articles or other agenda focused "articles" be it from a Blog or a "bona fide" new source do not belong in newsville. Some of the journals and web sites of a tech design, development, logistics nature usually high light advancements in energy and automotive technology long before it trickles into the mainstream media. The problem is they now cannot be posted because they are in the "Blog" section of their web sites. Their web sites are no different than the Gasbuddy web site for articles they do not author, but post for distribution. For articles they author, the articles usually appear in their Blog and eventually may end up getting picked up by one of the news wire organizations. It is just a utilization of technology. The articles which are authored by various GB employees for the Gasbuddy web site, are in the Blog section of the Gasbuddy web site (see the below link). Gasbuddy Blog
PD Moderator	Message Posted: Sep 27, 2012 12:06:29 AM Ignore PD Report Abuse Many times magazine articles are not dated. I'd rather not get into magazines, but many times they lack up-to-date information, news, etc. In addition, recent news is something that is dated, and generally less than 48 hours old.
BurntOrange Champion Author Austin Posts:8,882 Points:1,610,715 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: Sep 26, 2012 12:33:03 PM Ignore BurntOrange Report Abuse Probably want to add that the news should be recent, along with your definition of recent. I don't understand the issue with magazine articles. Are you saying that if Fortune or National Geographic has an article that is relevant, that should not be posted?
Martinman Champion Author Mississippi Posts:14,874 Points:2,120,555 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Sep 20, 2012 11:12:00 AM Ignore Martinman Report Abuse Articles that do not meet the submission guidelines for the Recent News forum, can be submitted directly to the Daily News Article Discussion forum, where all the Recent News forum articles are re-displayed in the typical forum format (No Votes; No Snippet section). With the exception of political articles (that belong in the Politics forums), I don't recall an article being removed from the Daily News Article Discussion forum. [Edited by: Martinman at 9/20/2012 11:19:29 AM EST]
jrsva Champion Author Virginia Posts:9,999 Points:1,639,950 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: Sep 19, 2012 12:17:53 AM Ignore jrsva Report Abuse OK, I know this thread is not for discussion but GB needs an answer. The nickname for this feature is Newsville, not Opinionville. In all credible news agencies, there is a hard line maintained between news and opinion. An editorial in the NYT or WSJ or others you mentioned could be interesting, perhaps even persuasive, but it is NOT news. I would be pleased to see a different venue on GasBuddy where relevant editorials could be posted but not mixed in with news articles in Newsville.
PD Moderator	Message Posted: Sep 18, 2012 11:47:49 AM Ignore PD Report Abuse Once we develop a better list of rules and blacklisted sites, I'll PM recent news posters directly with the updated rules. [Edited by: PD at 9/18/2012 11:48:09 AM EST]