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PD

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Message Posted: Sep 17, 2012 4:07:43 PM

Some updates on what we'd like to see in Newsville:

>>>Post news that aims to EDUCATE, NOT PERSUADE GasBuddy members<<<

1) Post news only from respected/credible/traditional news media that can be accessed by all users (no subscriptions/logins, such as Wall Street Journal). Some examples of these organizations: Media outlets with TV channels (ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, Fox, CNBC, MSNBC, Bloomberg, etc.), Major/Local Radio stations (WBBM Chicago, KNX Los Angeles, CBS Radio, etc), Newspapers with distribution (no online only): NY Times, Washington Post, Chicago Tribune, LA Times, etc.

2) Post news that is on subject with GasBuddy's user base: gasoline prices, driving, car safety, oil prices, refineries, CAFE standards, diesel, car technology, gas stations, industry news. Avoid news that does not pertain to the U.S. and Canada, since GasBuddy's users are from these countries only.

3) Avoid posting any news of issues that are off-topic, mainly political, or controversial, and do not post any opinion/guest editorial or other news piece by contributors not employed by the outlet running the story.

4) Digital ONLY websites are generally not allowed (although if the website is operated/owned by an outlet that operates a TV/Radio/Newspaper, it may be OK- example: MLive.com is owned by a company that distributes newspapers all over Michigan and is OK) A few examples of digital only that are not allowed: blogs such as OilPrice.net, Jalopnik, Wired, AutoBlog, etc. or online news such as Huffington Post.

5) Be careful about posting the source and article title correctly. If either one is wrong, it will be removed. We believe there are some mistakes, yes, and don't worry if your article is removed, just make sure you're accurate :)

We may write your Whiteboard or message you via your e-mail, but we may also not if we believe it to be a small one time mistake. Generally, if we feel users are deliberately posting bad news stories, we may warn or revoke the ability to contribute.

Check back here for periodic updates.


[Edited by: PD at 3/2/2015 10:38:45 PM EST]
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madison8359
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Message Posted: Apr 10, 2015 7:21:28 AM

These sound reasonable so let's do it.
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PD
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Message Posted: Mar 24, 2015 2:47:29 PM

Beacon,

The problem isn't always with the article, but can also be due to formatting issues with what was posted. If there is excessive text not in the article itself (such as ad references), formatting issues, or other such discrepancies (such as caps title articles, or incorrect headlines) such as "Oil Prices Drop, More Drops Coming READ MORE AT WWW.LINK.COM" articles may be removed.
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BeaconLite
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Message Posted: Mar 24, 2015 11:07:46 AM

PD you once had the courtesy of writing to us why the article was removed.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/102529611

In effort to EDUCATE, NOT PERSUADE, avoid frustration and mistakes, could you please tell us why you have chosen to remove the article?

[Edited by: BeaconLite at 3/24/2015 11:09:08 AM EST]
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BIGOILEATURCRUD
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2015 9:01:32 AM

ah-ha...

I knew there had to be an imposter!

Show me the points: Watch videos, earn points

Posted in: GasBuddy, by Allison Mac on Mar 6, 2015 02:30 PM

Show me the points: Watch videos, earn points

Now PD has his white board locked.

WILL THE REAL PD PLEASE STANDUP...
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BIGOILEATURCRUD
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Message Posted: Mar 5, 2015 5:24:46 PM

Dag_Nabbit, ClydeT might be on to something...HowlingWolfKs only knows for sure.
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GB500TT
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Message Posted: Mar 5, 2015 3:33:18 PM

BeaconLite,

Maybe it's the "text deleted" part?

:o

[Edited by: GB500TT at 3/5/2015 3:34:03 PM EST]
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BeaconLite
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Message Posted: Mar 5, 2015 3:24:29 PM

HI PD!!
What is wrong with this article so I won't do it again.
Is it because it is Canadian content?http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/text deleted

[Edited by: BeaconLite at 3/5/2015 3:25:35 PM EST]
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BIGOILEATURCRUD
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2015 5:53:20 AM


Did I post the AP article in all CAPS?

dunt know; I CAN'T FIND IT!!! Copy & paste is how I submit.

I do like the dynamic updating of the Real Associated Press, though.

Maybe we have a PD imposter???

WILL THE REAL PD PLEASE STANDUP...
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PD
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Message Posted: Mar 2, 2015 10:39:14 PM

Updated to implicitly include Wall Street Journal (WSJ) as removable (subscription required).
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PD
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Message Posted: Mar 2, 2015 10:37:57 PM

Sorry guys, been gone.

We're doing better on sources- well that is most of you are. So thank you. Improperly formatted headlines do lead to me yanking them. Some headlines are URLs, some are all caps, some have errors, and if they're wrong and I catch them, they're removed. No worries, I don't consider that a major offense, just try to be correct.

Beacon, Driving.ca would fall under the previous rules whether a sponsor or not. I don't consider them vetted, even if they appear as a sponsor. (This should solidify the claim that no one gets a free pass)
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NOTSOGRN
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Message Posted: Mar 2, 2015 12:55:50 PM

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BIGOILEATURCRUD Did you post your AP item in all CAPS???
That will get it pulled. As have mine when posted in all CAPS.
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BeaconLite
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2015 6:49:37 PM

HI PD!!
Some Yahoo pulled down a perfectly legit article;

http://driving.ca/ford/f-150/auto-news/news/motor-mouth-aluminum-f-150-not-quite-the-revolution-we-hoped-for

Driving.ca sponsor Ottawa Gas Prices here in Canada.

WT ??? The Yahoo who deleted this article is obviously not aware of your Canada Sponsors.

Hoping that person will be going back to MOD 101.
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teenitup
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2015 9:00:35 AM

It appears that this was a short lived attempt.
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BIGOILEATURCRUD
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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2015 7:13:06 PM

PD,

I posted a article earlier about an oil train derailment and now I can't find it.

Have you SEEN IT?

Real Associated Press

The rail company acknowledged the derailment on its Twitter page.
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BIGOILEATURCRUD
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Message Posted: Feb 10, 2015 4:43:30 PM

Good to hear you wasn't sent to purgatory, PD; never to be heard from again.

Someone posted an article in the daily news discussion about a new energy plant and now I can't find it.

Have you seen it or know where it went?
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PD
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Message Posted: Feb 9, 2015 11:48:25 AM

Been off a week, I'm back.
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BIGOILEATURCRUD
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Message Posted: Feb 8, 2015 5:40:10 PM


Maybe PD got sent to purgatory?

[Edited by: BIGOILEATURCRUD at 2/8/2015 5:42:21 PM EST]
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RoadKing95
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2015 7:42:55 PM

CampKohler, you are correct that subscription requirements are not allowed. If you go to submit an article, there is a link to submission guidelines. The second one in the list is;

Avoid Pop-Ups or intrusive advertising
Post articles that everyone can read that don't havepopups or require additional steps to read, such as answering a question, orlogging in, or registering a new acccount.

It seems to me that the old guidelines were more explicit in stating no articles that require a subscription. I'm afraid you won't get any satisfaction from your post here, I've been waiting on a response for almost 2 months. You'll probably have better luck sending them a message via the feedback link.
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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Jan 31, 2015 1:56:15 PM

I just clicked a (WSJ article, but you have to subscribe or log in to read the full article. Is requiring a log in a disqualification for GBO?
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teenitup
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Message Posted: Jan 30, 2015 9:32:10 AM

What was the subject of the Newsweek article RoadKing95?
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RoadKing95
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2015 1:43:36 PM

This has become ridiculous. There is no feedback from site admin when a story is yanked, and there is no help here either.
I posted an article yesterday from Newsweek, and it got yanked? Newsweek not mainstream enough? It is still in print isn't it?

How about some answers?
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RoadKing95
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2015 4:46:14 PM

So, is The New American Magazine allowed? Seems that the publication of the John Birch Society shouldn't be.
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EZExit
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2015 3:31:11 PM

Patrick, where are you my friend? The news section has been broke for a couple of weeks. There are a couple of individuals manipulating the news again, at least one of them back with a new screen name after being banned several times under several screen names for the same thing.
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BIGOILEATURCRUD
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2015 7:02:17 PM


I didn't think it would last long.

Big Oil Eat Your Crude

[Edited by: BIGOILEATURCRUD at 1/1/2015 7:06:36 PM EST]
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BIGOILEATURCRUD
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Message Posted: Jan 1, 2015 6:39:43 PM

Will it last?
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BIGOILEATURCRUD
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Message Posted: Dec 29, 2014 1:46:56 AM


ROFL
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NOTSOGRN
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2014 10:56:11 AM

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Jayburt...I made the same argument with one of my Buds but, PD calls-em as he see them.
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BIGOILEATURCRUD
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Message Posted: Dec 19, 2014 6:19:07 AM


some blogs must be okay
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Jayburt
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Message Posted: Dec 19, 2014 12:53:41 AM

http://fuelfix.com/blog/2014/12/18 is a blog as it clearly shows in their URL..its also the place where months ago they were caught manipulating a AP story,not by removing some of it like some sites do (that only use part of their story, for room constraints) but by moving paragraphs and lines around to make it sound like a different slant altogether, I put in multiple links to the same story posted on several credible sites at that time that had the original AP feed to show the difference.

for that reason fuelfix/blog Powered by CH2MHILL Gas & Oil shouldn't be a valid source for 'news' or a GB source.

We really appreciate you cleaning up newsville PD, and it has made a world of difference.

[Edited by: Jayburt at 12/19/2014 12:57:23 AM EST]
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NOTSOGRN
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Message Posted: Dec 12, 2014 11:03:28 AM

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Is it a group of Mods & you that scan the forums or are you the Lone Ranger?
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pmurray63
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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2014 6:52:55 PM

As someone who has griped here in the past about the state of the News section, it's only fair to salute what I believe are improvements.

I see from the posts here that what qualifies as an acceptable source is still being debated -- and I assume that will continue at some level -- but the politics and game-playing appear to be gone, and I believe that's a Good Thing, as Martha Stewart might say.

So kudos to PD and everyone else involved in the effort.
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RoadKing95
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Message Posted: Dec 1, 2014 2:38:16 PM

PD, I posted an article on Saturday from Seeking Alpha. I am not familiar with them, so I'm not sure why it would be taken down. I looked at their home site, and googled looking for negatives that might explain why it got taken down and couldn't find an explanation. I posted it again yesterday and it was removed again. Here's the link;

Hydrogen FCV vs BEV

[Edited by: RoadKing95 at 12/1/2014 2:39:41 PM EST]
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BeaconLite
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Message Posted: Nov 26, 2014 9:56:37 AM

Hey PD what with the inconsistencies?? you took this SAME article down last evening stating to avoid Fuel Fix.

http://www.ottawagasprices.com/news/Thanksgiving_gas_prices_lowest_since_2009/94279_591063/index.aspx
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teafortwo
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2014 6:26:30 PM



Sanpoil from Spokane asks:

"I had two articles taken down yesterday and yet I see one of the deleted article I posted yesterday in the top 5 today posted by a different member. What's up with that?

[Edited by: Sanpoil at 11/23/2014 10:26:07 AM EST]"

Good question Sanpoil.

Inquiring minds are eager to be educated and enlightened to the answer ;0}

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Message Posted: Nov 23, 2014 10:20:49 AM

I had two articles taken down yesterday and yet I see one of the deleted article I posted yesterday in the top 5 today posted by a different member. What's up with that?

[Edited by: Sanpoil at 11/23/2014 10:26:07 AM EST]
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PD
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Message Posted: Nov 12, 2014 10:15:53 AM

I've decided to accept National Journal (for now)
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PD
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Message Posted: Nov 10, 2014 4:32:55 PM

Beacon,

Unfortunately, if I make an exception to add X, then I'm sure I'll be asked why I can't add X, and soon we will be in the same place with news that we were before.

Those sources may have interesting articles, but wait until mainstream media picks them up. If it's not mainstream media, or large media, there aren't as many checks and balances. While some great pieces may be absent from newsville, many more that aren't true or lack detail won't make it either.
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BeaconLite
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Message Posted: Nov 10, 2014 1:09:05 PM

PD, next time you update Posting Tips, could you please update item number 4 to include Breaking Energy, UPI, Shale Plays Media and Washington Times to the list. It would be to everyone's benefit.
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BeaconLite
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Message Posted: Nov 9, 2014 11:32:02 AM

PD!! My article from Breaking Energy via Haynesville was taken down. Neither of these are on the DO NOT list. Would you have the courtesy to write to my WB with the reason why so the same mistake will not be repeated. This is the article in question.

http://haynesville.com/news/id/93711/us-crude-oil-export-outlook/

Thanks
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Message Posted: Nov 8, 2014 3:21:58 AM

Today's top story:

The Moscow Times reports

Chinese Banks May Invest $10 Billion in Russia's Sanctions-Hit Yamal LNG

???

but, it is the weekend
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Message Posted: Nov 7, 2014 4:23:06 PM

Thanks, very helpful. I look foward to lots of posts...
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PD
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2014 11:44:39 AM

doeslayer- that's fine. It's about the source of the article, and only partially about where the story is hosted.

jrsva- enough was said there. I'm on the same page.

BIGOILEATURCRUD- yes, it was yanked because of the all caps. The formatting is important for articles. As is spelling of sources. Accuracy matters.
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teenitup
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2014 9:52:30 AM

Yes, PD unfortunately had a busy evening on Sunday, but took care of those rogue submissions. Maybe they'll slow down after Tuesday?
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doeslayersr
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Message Posted: Nov 3, 2014 6:48:16 AM

Suggestion for consideration.

Allow any online (digital) site which posts articles written by and released by the "accepted/authorized" news services such as AP (Associated Press, Rueters, UPI) which is used by a majority of the "news" organizations referenced in the updated newsville posting tips as long as they do not add to or editorialize the article as to fit their view of the world.
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2014 10:16:18 AM

Of course the posters seem to know Sunday is the time to post the climate change articles. They've been doing it for some time.

Like today:
http://www.charlottegasprices.com/news/Fossil_fuels_should_be_phased_out_by_2100_says_IPCC/93376_589045/index.aspx

http://www.charlottegasprices.com/news/UN_Sees_Irreversible_Damage_to_Planet_From_Fossil_Fuels/93382_589058/index.aspx

http://www.charlottegasprices.com/news/Climate_change_fight_affordable_cut_emissions_to_zero_by_2100_UN/93385_589062/index.aspx

With more of the same to come most likely.
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Message Posted: Nov 2, 2014 1:24:13 AM

Get a grip Sammy. The point of mentioning The New American in this topic is not to debate the *opinions* it publishes but to assess its merit as a reliable news source.

“It is published by American OPINION [emphasis added] Publishing, a wholly owned subsidiary of The John Birch Society.” I’m sorry that you are naive about these things but AOP does not sound like a news agency to me and I thought that most folks here would be familiar in general terms with the politics of the John Birch Society. Editorials and opinion columns are not allowed in Newsville.

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Message Posted: Nov 1, 2014 7:02:22 AM

Please see this topic:
about update of LAST POST DATE on STICY threads. I am tired of trying to memorize post totals to know if there is an update to a STICKY.

Thought this was a good time and place to bring it up again since I know PD checks in here periodically whereas moderators and PTB are not seen that much in the SGBI category.

Thanks PD!
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Message Posted: Nov 1, 2014 4:04:06 AM

To: jrsva Re: Message Posted: Oct 29, 2014 12:37:19 AM (Printed below)

"About The New American —

“It is published by American Opinion Publishing, a wholly owned subsidiary of The John Birch Society.”

Enough said."

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Enough said? You've said nothing at all. Besides demonstrating your INability to critically analyze an article and articulate an error of fact or opinion, you have resorted to an ad hominem attack on an organization and/or publisher. Such logic ISN'T logic, but rather "name calling"; something abandoned by most people in elementary school.

It's time to put on your "big boy" pants and enter the adult world of intelligent debate. If it gets "too hot in the kitchen", you don't need to stay there.
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2014 12:37:19 AM

About The New American —

“It is published by American Opinion Publishing, a wholly owned subsidiary of The John Birch Society.”

Enough said.

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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2014 12:33:51 AM

>> If you read News Trust about UPI, they quote their source as something called Wikipedia. Good grief! It all goes in circles. <<

CK,
That News Trust website uses Wikipedia's business descriptions and histories for all the news publishers that News Trust provides ratings for. IMO there's nothing wrong with that as long as Wikipedia accurately describes the publisher and it's history.

Notice however, that I found the Wikipedia snippet shown on the News Trust site to be out of date for a couple of publications I checked at random, because Wikipedia has edited or updated their encyclopedia entry about those publishers and News Trust is still displaying a snippet taken prior to the edit.


[Edited by: GoGoGoodyear at 10/29/2014 12:37:51 AM EST]
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BIGOILEATURCRUD
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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2014 6:58:23 AM

About The New American

Details

The New American: The Essential News Source

The New American magazine, published twice a month in print and daily online, is the essential news source for freedom-loving Americans.

Our editorial point of view is guided by our support of the U.S. Constitution and the principles upon which our Constitution is based. Specifically, we want to restore and retain the values and vision that made America great — limited government under the Constitution, the freedoms our Constitution guarantees, and the personal responsibility a free people must exercise to stay free. In the area of foreign policy, our editorial point of view is based on avoiding foreign entanglements and going to war only when necessary to defend our country and citizens. Our purpose is encapsulated by the slogan appearing on the cover of The New American “That freedom shall not perish.”

As you can see, unlike myriad news organs that deceptively slant the news while claiming to be "objective," The New American forthrightly acknowledges an editorial point of view. But, that aside, we always approach the news honestly, relying on facts and reason to make our case and allowing the chips to fall where they may.

Our coverage and analysis does not "rehash" the news but probes deeper to discover the real story behind the headlines. Sometimes we uncover facts the major media want to keep hidden; sometimes we report important stories months or years before they appear elsewhere.

Many of our articles expose media deception and political coverup, and warn against those forces, both inside and outside of government, seeking to consolidate political and economic power nationally and internationally. Such exposures can and do help concerned Americans to safeguard their liberties. Other articles examine the goodness of America and the greatness of our founding principles and offer realistic hope that America can be saved.

Twice a year, The New American publishes a congressional scorecard called the "Freedom Index" that rates every member of the U.S. House and Senate on key issues.

In addition to political topics, The New American also publishes articles about economics (from a free-enterprise perspective of course!), culture, and history. It is published by American Opinion Publishing, a wholly owned subsidiary of The John Birch Society.

still not persuaded


[Edited by: BIGOILEATURCRUD at 10/28/2014 6:59:02 AM EST]
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