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jrsva

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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2009 12:45:54 AM

A group of members who work on the opinion poll each week decided to start a new topic to discuss past polls and how they could be improved. Almost immediately we began to make predictions about how the next poll would turn out and then to keep score as the results came in. It soon became clear that this aspect was getting in the way of the main purpose of the poll-discussion thread. Hence this new topic, devoted to those who wish to predict poll results and discuss those predictions.

We now have 3 related topics: Setting up new polls, predicting their results, and discussing those results.


[Edited by: jrsva at 10/21/2009 12:51:35 AM EST]
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jrsva
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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 12:42:57 AM


Come on SUV, if you're going to guess anyway get in the game.
Haven't seen you here for awhile.
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SUVFan
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Message Posted: Jun 17, 2013 1:15:24 PM

I just voted and, as I normally do, guessed at the totals I'd see? I went with 75-15-3-2-1, which scores 50 right now. So I'm thinking 37 is pretty good, more than deserving of a win by default!
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bugc
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Message Posted: Jun 17, 2013 12:21:13 AM

Yes, you can have the title by default....

Congrats.

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jrsva
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2013 11:12:54 PM


What’s this? Do I win by default? And I’m not even very close, 37 points off right now.
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jrsva
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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2013 12:01:01 AM

How often do you use public transportation?
• Never----------------------50
• Rarely ---------------------15
• A few times a year---------10
• A few times a month-------10
• Daily / almost daily --------12

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jrsva
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Message Posted: Jun 12, 2013 11:48:01 PM

Results for 2013-24 with 15800 votes tallied.
I post fuel prices on GasBuddy

Prognosticator-----jerry - - - jrsva - - - ziyulu
• Every day---------(11) - - - -19 - - - - - 23
• Most days ----------7 - - - - -(3) - - - - -(7)
• About half ----------1 - - - - - 1 - - - - - -0
• Seldom -------------6 - - - - -(9) - - - - (8)
• Never--------------(2) - - - - (8) - - - - (5)
Score----------------27 - - - - -40 - - - - 43

Congratulations Jerry, a win from the pole position.

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bugc
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Message Posted: Jun 10, 2013 12:12:02 AM

I abstained. I would have been very wrong if I had attempted a prediction.
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ziyulu
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2013 12:47:05 AM

I post fuel prices on GasBuddy
64 • Every day (8 * 8 characters)
16 • Most days (2 * 8 characters)
09 • About half
06 • Seldom
05 • Never
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jrsva
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2013 12:01:49 AM

I post fuel prices on GasBuddy
• Every day----------60
• Most days ---------20
• About half ---------10
• Seldom -------------5
• Never---------------2

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jerry972
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Message Posted: Jun 8, 2013 12:25:23 PM

On to next week:

I post fuel prices on GasBuddy
30 • Every day
30 • Most days
10 • About half
20 • Seldom
08 • Never
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jerry972
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Message Posted: Jun 8, 2013 12:22:01 PM

I thought a lot more people would say that their travel plans were affected by Sandy than apparently did. The storm affected 1/3-1/2 of the population of the US. (I know mine were - it was only a business trip but it was travel).



[Edited by: jerry972 at 6/8/2013 12:23:43 PM EST]
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bugc
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Message Posted: Jun 5, 2013 12:36:28 AM

A big spread. Good work, jrsva!

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jrsva
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Message Posted: Jun 5, 2013 12:03:24 AM

Results for 2013-23 with 15200 votes tallied.
How recently has a declared disaster affected your travel?

Prognosticator---------------jerry - - - jrsva - - - ziyulu - - - bugc
• Within last 6 months--------(4) - - - - -0 - - - - - 12 - - - - - 0
• 6 months to a year---------22 - - - - -12 - - - - - 11 - - - - -12
• 1 year to 3 years-----------(4) - - - - -(2) - - - - - 6 - - - - - 8
• More than 3 years --------(11) - - - - (8) - - - - -(7) - - - - (6)
• Never ---------------------(7) - - - - -(2) - - - - (37) - - - (17)
Score -----------------------48 - - - - -24 - - - - - 73 - - - - -43

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bugc
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Message Posted: Jun 2, 2013 12:15:22 AM

How recently has a declared disaster affected your travel?
05 • Within last 6 months
15 • 6 months to a year
15 • 1 year to 3 years
15 • More than 3 years
45 • Never
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ziyulu
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Message Posted: Jun 2, 2013 12:14:54 AM

How recently has a declared disaster affected your travel?
17 • Within last 6 months
14 • 6 months to a year
13 • 1 year to 3 years
14 • More than 3 years
25 • Never (5 * 5 characters)
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jrsva
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Message Posted: Jun 1, 2013 11:59:55 PM

How recently has a declared disaster affected your travel?
• Within last 6 months--------5
• 6 months to a year --------15
• 1 year to 3 years------------5
• More than 3 years ---------13
• Never----------------------60

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jerry972
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Message Posted: Jun 1, 2013 12:54:57 PM

How recently has a declared disaster affected your travel?
01 • Within last 6 months
25 • 6 months to a year
03 • 1 year to 3 years
10 • More than 3 years
55 • Never
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plastic
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Message Posted: May 29, 2013 9:29:21 AM

Thanks, jr. I couldn't find that page. I'll add it to my favorites.
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jrsva
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Message Posted: May 29, 2013 12:31:53 AM

Results for 2013-22 with 15000 votes tallied.
When entering or checking gas prices, do you use the GasBuddy app / mobile website or the full website?

Prognosticator-------------jerry - - - jrsva - - - ziyulu - - - bugc
• Only app/mobile------------20 - - - -(4) - - - - -(3) - - - - -3
• Mostly app/mobile----------15 - - - - 2 - - - - - 11 - - - - - 2
• About 50/50----------------(1) - - - 13 - - - - - -8 - - - - - 3
• Mostly full website----------(2) - - - (5) - - - - -(3) - - - - -0
• Only full website-----------(29) - - - (6) - - - - (33) - - - (16)
Score------------------------67 - - - -30 - - - - -58 - - - - 24

Good work Bugc!

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jrsva
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Message Posted: May 29, 2013 12:19:10 AM

This discussion should be taking place in the Poll Results Discussion topic, but to continue it nonetheless —

In Poll 2008-10 we asked, “How long have you had a valid driver's license?” The median fell in the 25-32 years group. Since most folks get their license at age 16 or soon after, that would put the mean GB age at mid-40s.

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plastic
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Message Posted: May 28, 2013 12:00:50 PM

Well I was surprised, Zim, especially since I'm "old" and my other "old" friends use the app. Maybe people like doc and malcm don't use the app. I don't know.

What would you say is the average age of the site members? My guess would be upper 30s but that could be way off.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: May 28, 2013 10:46:14 AM

"Interesting. Still surprised at how many site users don't use the app."

I'm betting most of the app users don't use the website.
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Zimcity
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Message Posted: May 28, 2013 9:53:20 AM

"Interesting. Still surprised at how many site users don't use the app."

I don't think the numbers are all that surprising, considering the GB population is a bit older than many online communities and likely has fewer mobile users overall. That and the bias of app only users not even being aware of the poll.

Still, the poll shows a large amount of mainly and only app users which shows that more and more resources will likely need to be dedicated towards app dev.
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jrsva
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Message Posted: May 27, 2013 11:42:34 PM


Not as far as I know. That’s why we used the phrase “entering or checking” in the question, assuming that everyone who uses this site either enters or checks prices at some point.
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plastic
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Message Posted: May 27, 2013 7:48:31 AM

I wonder how many site users don't post prices. Has that poll been done?
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plastic
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Message Posted: May 27, 2013 12:12:17 AM

Interesting. Still surprised at how many site users don't use the app.
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jrsva
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Message Posted: May 26, 2013 11:45:01 PM


Plastic, we discussed that during editing, realized it would distort the results but decided to ask the question anyway. The results apply to a sub-population of GB members, those who vote in the weekly poll.   ;o)
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Message Posted: May 26, 2013 9:15:07 PM

I'm shocked by the results of the poll. It did make me think of something I did not consider. There are a lot of app-only users who will never vote on the poll.
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jerry972
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Message Posted: May 26, 2013 5:23:54 PM

Z,
I did count spaces - I counted from first character to last character including spaces so "About 50/50" is 11 characters. This is the first time I have done this so I may have missed something.
J
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bugc
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Message Posted: May 26, 2013 12:27:08 AM

I'll guess that the mobile folks are less likely to vote...

When entering or checking gas prices, do you use the GasBuddy app / mobile website or the full website?
10 Only (app or mobile website}
15 Mostly app or mobile website
15 About 50/50
20 Mostly full website
30 Only full website

[Edited by: bugc at 5/26/2013 12:29:14 AM EST]
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ziyulu
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Message Posted: May 26, 2013 12:08:13 AM

jerry, how are you counting the characters? Are you including spaces? Even so, your counts don't seem consistent.
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ziyulu
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Message Posted: May 26, 2013 12:07:35 AM

When entering or checking gas prices, do you use the GasBuddy app / mobile website or the full website?
04 • (Only) app or mobile website
24 • Mostly app or mobile website
20 • About 50/50 (2 * 10 characters)
17 • Mostly full website
30 • Only full website (2 * 15 characters)
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jrsva
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Message Posted: May 25, 2013 11:50:16 PM

When entering or checking gas prices, do you use the GasBuddy app / mobile website or the full website?
• Only app/mobile-------------3
• Mostly app/mobile----------15
• About 50/50----------------25
• Mostly full website----------15
• Only full website------------40

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jrsva
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Message Posted: May 25, 2013 11:14:34 PM


This is an interesting one to use to test the character-count method — none of those arbitrary factors are involved. We'll see how it turns out.
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jerry972
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Message Posted: May 25, 2013 10:36:19 AM

If you can't beat them, join them - I am going to try z's character count technique.

When entering or checking gas prices, do you use the GasBuddy app / mobile website or the full website?
27 • Only app or mobile website
28 • Mostly app or mobile website
11 • About 50/50
18 • Mostly full website
17 • Only full website

It adds up to 101% so let see what happens. I should be close to master Z if I have wielded the sword of character count correctly.

[Edited by: jerry972 at 5/25/2013 10:43:01 AM EST]
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jerry972
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Message Posted: May 25, 2013 10:33:11 AM

ziyulu,
I don't deny that it works. It works really well.

I am just curious about what sort of psychology is playing in a poll respondent's head where only the number of characters in the answer is a very good predictor.

Any thoughts, anyone?


[Edited by: jerry972 at 5/25/2013 10:40:46 AM EST]
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ziyulu
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Message Posted: May 24, 2013 5:13:02 AM

I like the character game in that it limits the percentage of a guess to a few numbers. I then play around with the factors and total until I get close to 100.
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Message Posted: May 23, 2013 11:39:09 PM

bugc,
I feel we swap frequently for bringing up the rear...

All,
I would love to know why z's letter count approach works as well as it does. I can't figure out the link.

ziyulu,
Congratulations - again.


[Edited by: jerry972 at 5/23/2013 11:40:55 PM EST]
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bugc
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Message Posted: May 23, 2013 3:52:15 PM

I've been doing a good job of being the outlier.
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jrsva
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Message Posted: May 23, 2013 12:06:24 AM

Results for 2013-21 with 19200 votes tallied.
How often do you use a cell phone while driving?

Prognosticator-------jrsva - - - ziyulu - - - bugc - - - jerry
• Frequently------------1 - - - - - (1) - - - - -4 - - - - - 18
• Sometimes-----------(2) - - - - -(4) - - - - (3) - - - - - 3
• Rarely----------------(9) - - - - - (3) - - - -(13) - - - - (9)
• Never -----------------8 - - - - - - 3 - - - - - 8 - - - - - (2)
• NA / no phone---------1 - - - - - -(2) - - - - -4 - - - - - -2
Score-------------------21 - - - - - -13 - - - - 32 - - - - - 23

Congratulations Z, you did it again.

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jerry972
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Message Posted: May 19, 2013 3:17:07 PM

Like bugc, I am late but haven't looked / voted yet.

How often do you use a cell phone while driving?
18 • Frequently
25 • Sometimes
30 • Rarely
20 • Never
06 • NA / no phone
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Message Posted: May 19, 2013 2:56:11 PM

I haven't looked at the poll so I'll take a guess:

How often do you use a cell phone while driving?
15 • Frequently
19 • Sometimes
26 • Rarely
30 • Never
08 • NA / no phone
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Message Posted: May 19, 2013 12:17:54 AM

How often do you use a cell phone while driving?
10 • Frequently
18 • Sometimes (2 * 9 characters)
36 • Rarely (6 * 6 characters)
25 • Never (5 * 5 characters)
02 • (NA) / no phone
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jrsva
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Message Posted: May 18, 2013 11:47:35 PM

How often do you use a cell phone while driving?
• Frequently-----------12
• Sometimes-----------20
• Rarely----------------30
• Never ----------------30
• NA / no phone---------5

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jrsva
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Message Posted: May 18, 2013 11:20:50 PM

Results for 2013-20 with 18700 votes tallied.
Were you satisfied with the processing and/or payment of your last auto-insurance claim?

Prognosticator---------jrsva - - - bugc - - - ziyulu - - - jerry
• Very satisfied ----------(5) - - - - (5) - - - - (4) - - - - -(10)
• Met my needs-----------2 - - - - - 2 - - - - - 2 - - - - - - 17
• Unsatisfied-------------(3) - - - - -4 - - - - - 0 - - - - - - - 4
• No claim / IDK-----------6 - - - - -(4) - - - - (7) - - - - - -(9)
Score--------------------16 - - - - 15 - - - - -13 - - - - - -40

Congratulations Z, close race this week.

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jrsva
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Message Posted: May 16, 2013 11:49:19 PM


I was getting ready to post results but it is pretty close now so I think I’ll wait a bit to see if anything changes.
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Message Posted: May 12, 2013 11:02:42 PM

I know I am late but I haven't looked or voted yet.

Were you satisfied with the processing and/or payment of your last auto-insurance claim?

20 Very satisfied
45 Met my needs
15 Unsatisfied
20 No claim / I don’t remember
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Message Posted: May 12, 2013 12:12:46 AM

Were you satisfied with the processing and/or payment of your last auto-insurance claim?
26 • Very satisfied (2 * 13 characters)
30 • Met my needs (3 * 10 characters)
11 • Unsatisfied
22 • No claim / I don’t remember
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Message Posted: May 12, 2013 12:07:25 AM

Were you satisfied with the processing and/or payment of your last auto-insurance claim?

25 Very satisfied
30 Met my needs
15 Unsatisfied
25 No claim / I don’t remember

[Edited by: bugc at 5/12/2013 12:09:18 AM EST]
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jrsva
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Message Posted: May 11, 2013 11:52:18 PM

Where is everyone this week? It's almost midnight in the east.

Were you satisfied with the processing and/or payment of your last auto-insurance claim?
• Very satisfied-----------25
• Met my needs----------30
• Unsatisfied--------------8
• No claim / IDK---------35

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