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JT

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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2005 8:53:30 PM

There has been a lot of talk about GasBuddy moderators removing copyright articles and information on the web site. We certainly don't delete things like this to intentionally make the forum worse. It also has nothing to do with any particular members. We remove messages like this all the time for this type of infraction. In fact, there has been a bit of a history of us deleting topics because of copyright issues - this isn't something new.

We would love nothing more than to be able to allow people to cut & paste entire articles from all over the place. It would make for interesting reading, and one would not have to go to other web sites to get this info. The unfortunate reality is that if we want to keep on the right side of the law, we should not allow this.

You are welcome to post a small quote of an article: a few sentences or even a paragraph. But please DO NOT post long excerpts or entire articles. Please also give credit to the source and a link to the site that it came from.

[Edited by: JT at 7/17/2005 8:50:03 PM EST]
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SBlouch
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2008 6:54:34 PM

This isn't anything new as we learned about this in Junior High School.
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CampKohler
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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2007 3:07:37 AM

Many years ago, a work's creator had to apply for a copyright and a copyright notice (the word or the copyright symbol) within the work was required to maintain the copyright. When the US joined the rest of the world (copyright wise), the U.S. law changed -- no notice need not be published; the simple act of creating the work establishes copyright. In other words, every work anyone creates is automatically copyrighted without doing a thing. So, if you are going to copy something created by anyone else, your judgement that they won't really care should be 100% correct (or else).

[Edited by: CampKohler at 10/28/2007 3:11:17 AM EST]
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CobraLeader
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Message Posted: Sep 4, 2007 12:25:17 AM

Just like in school - do your own work!
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BreakfastClub
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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2007 2:02:04 PM

Have you seen my steering wheel?
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clutchcargo
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Message Posted: Jun 26, 2007 3:07:42 PM

[L=usatoday.com][/L][L=WWW.USAToday.com][/L][L=WWW.USAToday.com/money][/L]

WWW.USAToday.com

[Edited by: clutchcargo at 6/26/2007 3:09:07 PM EST]
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gasspy49
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Message Posted: May 3, 2007 7:54:23 PM

good idea.
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kauzi
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Message Posted: Mar 27, 2007 7:36:50 AM

o.k
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Turfmech
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2007 11:53:35 AM

Hallalujah!!!
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skybid
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2007 11:53:50 AM

Thanks for the reminder.
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lymandogs
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2007 7:00:17 PM

The information is useful.
Thanks
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shike
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Message Posted: Jan 29, 2007 3:46:55 AM

Thank you for the info
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chevygirl2
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Message Posted: Jan 21, 2007 10:03:34 AM

hmm
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safire01
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Message Posted: Jan 10, 2007 11:04:17 PM

K
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JustBill1931
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Message Posted: Dec 23, 2006 12:43:49 PM

It's probably better to post a link to the article anyway. That way you avoid all of the copyright issues, plus any credits due to the author are automatic.
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Tiger155
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Message Posted: Nov 15, 2006 10:42:59 PM

Thank you for the info
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Red_PT
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Message Posted: Nov 10, 2006 8:52:31 AM

ok
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Oct 17, 2006 10:16:56 AM

lyndee:

I don't necessarily disagree about reading long posts but to me the question is "why is the material posted?" Some long posts may be useful or appropriate but to me it should be an opinion or views, not a repeat of what someone else wrote. It's one thing if it's an original post; its another - and I agree with you - if it's copying something someone else has written, especially if it can be found on the internet; in those cases a link is both sufficient and better.

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jimscar
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Message Posted: Oct 15, 2006 6:02:40 AM

Thanks for the clarification.
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lyndee
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Message Posted: Oct 13, 2006 9:43:53 PM

I avoid reading long posts on this web site- like the plague! And
I don't care if they are copywritted or not! I just don't have the time
to read real long posts! Anyone who posts a real long article on this
site is wasting there own time- as I and many other members don't
bother to read real long articles! If you want me to read it- I suggest
that you keep it short! Links to newsarticles should be used- and
if your newspaper link to an article on this web site no longer works-
I suggest posting a link to the newspaper site itself- and doing the
search from the newspaper's own web site- which of course should work!
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ultimatealtima
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Message Posted: Oct 7, 2006 8:10:53 PM

ok
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gasbuddy872756
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Message Posted: Sep 4, 2006 7:58:56 PM

Thanks JT!
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MzSuezQ
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Message Posted: Jul 28, 2006 9:10:19 AM

A paragraph and then the link to the article should suffice.
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iii
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Message Posted: Jul 24, 2006 5:29:38 PM

Attention JT.
Please check out this topic and link that CookieAcct found. Have you given permission for using GB site? They don't use any names of price posters. Why?
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Snowman42
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2006 7:09:29 AM

While paypump7 is probably right, I'd like to suggest that this information, and some of the other info, be consolidated into a single stickied topic (e.g. "General Forum Rules") instead of adding another stickie at the top of every forum.
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Paypump7
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Message Posted: Jun 26, 2006 5:01:33 PM

Is there any way to post this thread in all the local forums as a sticky at the top? This is information that all members should see.
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Etza
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Message Posted: Apr 16, 2006 12:53:18 AM

It is nice to see that copyrights are respected. I know some websites that show no respects whatsoever.
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TXEscapeHybrid
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Message Posted: Apr 11, 2006 12:32:36 AM

genfreddy, you're absolutely wrong, but I don't expect the facts to sway your opinion.
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sim_e_on
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Message Posted: Mar 29, 2006 5:31:36 PM

Wow.. i've never thought of that so far...
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Hamish
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Message Posted: Mar 17, 2006 4:05:42 PM

Any poems that I post onto the Gasbuddy site either the author is anonymous or I have the copyright to the poem. I have given my permission for other gasbuddies to repost my poems onto other threads.
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SandOwl
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Message Posted: Mar 17, 2006 10:56:14 AM

Thanks Gas94022,
I tried typing the html, like it works on other forums. I just kept overlooking that little link on the left.
Happy St. Patrick's Day
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Gas94022
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Message Posted: Mar 14, 2006 1:30:14 PM

SandOwl,

When your are composing a message, there is a button to "Insert link".

Then, you can enter the URL and some brief text.

Like this one


[Edited by: Gas94022 at 3/14/2006 1:34:25 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Feb 23, 2006 9:12:17 PM

the boss is the boss, and it's the law, (not JT's law either).
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SandOwl
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2006 6:09:17 PM

Perhaps in a section on how to use this forum, you could give instructions not to post copyrighted material, etc.. along with instructions on how to include a link to another website in the forum post
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rjgimp
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2006 11:23:46 PM

"It is completely appropriate for this forum, as long as we pay the fee."-mkulda

We? I'm sure JT might be willing to consider your idea if you put your money where your mouth is. Why don't you send him a check?
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Gas_Buzzer
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2006 12:22:03 PM

Wouldn't even dream of posting copywritten material.
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shop18
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2005 11:12:35 AM

don't copy anything
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bicycler
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Message Posted: Nov 28, 2005 10:31:25 AM

I also agree with J.T.

Also-I have learned a great deal
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HoneyDog
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Message Posted: Nov 27, 2005 7:34:38 AM

You should check out some of bytebug's and Remember911's posts in the last week, both are posting substantial portions of copyrighted artciles.
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mel48
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2005 1:54:26 PM

Personally I'm not interested in reading 10 minute threads.
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Snowman42
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Message Posted: Nov 1, 2005 7:48:39 AM

"Sure wish the time limit could be extended to 10 minutes - not long when discussing deeper issues, typing with two fingers, and proof reading the old fashioned way."

Here's a hint - when composing long replies, do your 'typing with two fingers, and proof reading' in another application, like Notepad. Then hit the "Post a Reply" link and copy & past from Notepad into the window here. (you'll have to manually insert links, if you have any, tho).

That way you spend very little time in the GB message editor screen and are less likely to be logged out.

Just don't copy & paste copyrighted material!
(last sentence added in order to stay on topic ;))
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MichaelsMemo
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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2005 8:46:13 PM

Post script: It's tile is "New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures [Spanish]

Note: It is the thread closest to the bottom of, currently, page 1. The thread two spaces up is linked to my message and works.

Thank you :)

Michael
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MichaelsMemo
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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2005 7:31:17 PM

JT

The following thread is a dead link in the Christian Forum

http://www.mainegasprices.com/Forum_MSG.aspx?master=9&category=1309&topic=161791&page_no=1

Can it be removed. I have posted a second thread that does work. I guess the first post timed out. Sure wish the time limit could be extended to 10 minutes - not long when discussing deeper issues, typing with two fingers, and proof reading the old fashioned way.

M M

[Edited by: MichaelsMemo at 10/28/2005 7:36:28 PM EST]
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UofKRocks120
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Message Posted: Oct 7, 2005 9:55:41 PM

Whatever you have to do JT, i support you 100%
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Brokenow
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Message Posted: Sep 29, 2005 8:32:43 AM

Very good common and legal sense
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Sep 18, 2005 10:52:28 PM

I'd modify kwzh 's response a little.
Boycott choice two, pick a company and don't buy from that company.

If you decide to boycott a company, for it to be effective, it has to be a company that you used in the past, not one that you don't go to. It's fascinating the number of people that say they'll boycott "Husky" or "Skelly" or some brand that either they never use in the first place, or one that's not even in their area.
If you intend to boycott the station, stop going there; it's that simple; don't shop there again. But send a letter to the station and to the company explaining why you're boycotting their station, and say which station you intend to use instead. That way they understand they've lost a customer. And include your name and address so they can contact you. Anonymous letters or single boycotters don't make a difference; you have to give them a chance to reply to you either explaining their view, or explaining what they're doing to make you want to shop there again. If you're going to boycott them, you have to give them a chance to fix the situation that you think is wrong.
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Sep 10, 2005 12:46:23 AM

Since JT probably doesn't keep up to date on the forum, I'll answer the first part by saying that you can reach the admins via the "Contact Us" link at the top and bottom of each GasBuddy page.

As for the second item...

(Proposed) FAQ #46. I heard about a gas boycott, should I participate in that?

There are three kinds of "boycott" commonly proposed:
(a) Pick a day and don't buy gas on that day.
(b) Pick a company and don't buy gas from that company.
(c) Do something to cut down on gas usage (walk, bike, take the bus, car pool; drive at a more efficient speed; combine several short trips into one).

Regardless of how many people you can get to participate (even 100% participation), options (a) and (b) don't do any good at all. But they don't do any harm either, so if you feel like you're "making a statement", knock yourself out. Some people think that option (c) won't work either, but this is less clear, and in any case it reduces your personal gas bill for immediate short-term gain.

The urban-legend clearinghouse www.snopes.com (a useful resource to check whenever you receive *any* letter that urges you to "share it with all your friends") discusses the futility of both day-based and brand-based boycotts.

(Email ynenl7902@sneakemail.com with subject GASBUDDY if you think this wording does not adequately answer the question, or could be improved.)

[Edited by: kwzh at 9/10/2005 12:47:42 AM EST]
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Steamer43
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Message Posted: Sep 9, 2005 1:01:19 PM

Hey JT,
Could you by any chance Forward me your E-Mail & I will Forward an E-Mail to you I recieved this am so you can help pass it on to other interested parties.
Also this coming Sunday 9/11/05 is No Gas Sunday for the Entire U.S.A., as far as I know of.
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DON976
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Message Posted: Sep 7, 2005 9:01:36 PM

Would it be poss. to print or include a note or message about this copyright rule under the "please read before posting" areas of each category, that way more people would be aware of it before they do it,
I mean I would never thought of that law until I came and read it here
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kwzh
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2005 11:00:23 PM

Gas_Buddy, I believe Fillie was referring to the case where the link is to a news site that expires its articles, so that the information is no longer available at the original source. In this case it doesn't matter whether you go there with a forum link or by typing the URL manually; it fails either way.

But I don't think that justifies breaking the rules. If the forum posting included a short excerpt in addition to the link, then you can use a search engine to see if the full article is available at some other source (or within the search engine's cache). And if not, then that's unfortunate, but I'll just get on with my life.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2005 7:51:21 AM

If a link doesn't work, then enter what the website is; people can just take the extra step and type it in and enter the website just as they do other website addresses. It's a simple alternative to a link.
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