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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2001 9:38:26 PM

On GasBuddy, there are two types of polls. Polls about fuel, fuel prices, vehicles, driving, etc. are called Opinion Polls. New Opinion Polls are created each week, and presented on the left side of the home page; members can earn 100 points each week for answering them.

Polls about the workings of this Web site are called Member Polls. The link to the Member Polls is only present when a member is logged in, but is shown at the top of every page. Member Polls are created only occasionally, when and if the admins feel the need. (No points are earned for answering Member Polls.)

If you have a suggestion for an OPINION Poll, you may post it here for the admins' consideration; please do NOT post such suggestions in the Member Polls topic.

If you have a suggestion for a MEMBER Poll, those suggestions should be posted in the Member Polls topic, and NOT here.

[Edited by: GM at 4/10/2008 11:27:57 AM EST]
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LarryMarg
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 2:20:05 AM

To clarify my preference:

A) Should vehicle manufacturers be allowed to sell directly to the public?

B) Should vehicle manufacturers be allowed to sell directly to the public instead of thru local dealers?

C) Should vehicle manufacturers be allowed to sell directly to the public without requiring local dealers?

My first choice would be (A); my second choice would be (C).
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LarryMarg
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 2:12:19 AM

jrsva - "Instead of" means "in lieu of" or "rather than".

"Should vehicle manufacturers be allowed to sell directly to the public instead of thru local dealers?" means they will only sell directly to the public; they won't sell through local dealers.

"Should vehicle manufacturers be allowed to sell directly to the public without requiring dealerships?" - "without requiring" suggests that the dealerships are optional.

> In the second instance, some sales are direct instead of thru dealers.

You're correct, but here you're talking about specific sales. The question is more general, and - to me, at least - "to sell ... instead of" seems to require that all sales go through one alternative or the other.
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 12:30:04 AM

Larry, I do not see the distinction you are making about "instead of thru local dealers” applying to manufacturers who have no dealer network but not to those that might sell both thru dealers and direct. In the first instance, all sales are direct instead of thru dealers. In the second instance, some sales are direct instead of thru dealers.

Z, I understand your desire to use this next week because of PD’s blog and recent news about Tesla; however, time is short and we need to sort out the dealer wording.

A) Should vehicle manufacturers be allowed to sell directly to the public?
B) Should vehicle manufacturers be allowed to sell directly to the public instead of thru local dealers?

As I read the latest comment, Scout and Z prefer (A) while Larry, BD, Tx and I prefer (B) but we could all live with (A) if necessary. Bugc, where are you on this? Anyone else? I will make sure I am here in the morning. If a consensus is solidifying I will post this one, if not I will repost the one we proposed last week. Everyone OK with that?

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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 12:05:55 AM

I agree in general with TX but instead means either/or to me.

How about:
"Should vehicle manufacturers be allowed to sell directly to the public without requiring local dealers?"
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2014 10:17:05 PM

I'll go with the flow, but I prefer:

"Should vehicle manufacturers be allowed to sell directly to the public instead of thru local dealers?"

I think those seeing the question w/out the benefit of understanding why it is being asked or the discussion on the wording it would be clearer.

JMO
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2014 2:26:44 PM

One of the reasons I think we should to include "dealerships" in the poll question is because some people don't think about the difference between say GM and a GM dealership unless you bring it to their attention.

But if the majority disagree, I'm OK with that.
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2014 12:59:28 PM

I suggest we run the sell directly to the public question this week since it's timely.
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ziyulu
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2014 11:52:11 AM

I don't think we should mention dealerships.
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2014 7:36:02 AM

I don't think the mentioning of dealerships is necessary.

Should vehicle manufacturers be allowed to sell directly to the public?

is, to me, pretty obvious there is no middle man. Directly is the key word.

[Edited by: scoutmaster at 10/23/2014 7:36:32 AM EST]
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Byte_Doctor
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2014 7:12:37 AM

"I’m not sure I understand the idea behind changing the question in #243 from —
Should vehicle manufacturers be allowed to bypass dealerships and sell directly to the public?
to —
Should vehicle manufacturers be allowed to sell directly to the public without requiring dealerships?"

I agree, I'm not sure of the distinction either. I do like having dealerships mentioned, but don't have a strong feeling about either version, or the version that includes "local".
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LarryMarg
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2014 1:45:10 AM

I'm OK with "Should vehicle manufacturers be allowed to sell directly to the public?".

It seems to me that "instead of thru local dealers?" is specific to Tesla, whereas "without requiring dealerships?" is more general - it would cover Tesla, who has no local dealers, and also any manufacturers who might support both direct sales and sales through dealerships.

If we did want to mention dealers at all, it seems to me that the more general question would be preferable.
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2014 12:10:04 AM

I’m not sure I understand the idea behind changing the question in #243 from —
Should vehicle manufacturers be allowed to bypass dealerships and sell directly to the public?
to —
Should vehicle manufacturers be allowed to sell directly to the public without requiring dealerships?

Tesla’s business plan is to sell direct without any local dealers at all, so I suppose ‘bypassing’ is not the best word here. Scout suggested asking the question without mentioning dealers at all, which seems like a reasonable approach. Adding "without requiring dealerships" does not help me understand the issue.

Let me throw out yet another version —
Should vehicle manufacturers be allowed to sell directly to the public instead of thru local dealers?

If we want to mention dealers this seems like a more direct way to do it.

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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2014 11:04:56 AM

I think adding "without requiring dealerships" helps to understand the issue so I'd include it.
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2014 9:48:21 AM

So I guess we will never know the reason why our last poll didn't get picked up or if any more will get picked up.
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ziyulu
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2014 8:13:23 AM

Yes, I didn't know what I was thinking. The term "recently" is required.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2014 6:56:22 AM

How about

Should vehicle manufacturers be allowed to sell directly to the public?
• Yes
• No
• No opinion

Do we need to mention anything about the dealership?
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2014 12:18:33 AM

Yes, 243 is timely. Revise to:

Should vehicle manufacturers be allowed to sell directly to the public, without requiring dealerships?
• Yes
• No
• No opinion

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jrsva
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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2014 12:12:51 AM

We also have this on our list. It is timely due to a bill under consideration in Michigan. See PD’s blog in today’s Newsville.

243, Should vehicle manufacturers be allowed to bypass dealerships and sell directly to the public?
• Yes
• No
• No opinion

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Message Posted: Oct 22, 2014 12:05:22 AM

It turns out that #323 was already on our list as #290; I did not notice that when it was proposed again recently. Back in July we asked in Poll 2014-28, Do you own a hybrid or diesel or electric vehicle? The result was hybrid 5%, diesel 8%, more than one 1%, EV 0% and no 83%. Owning is not the same as driving, so the numbers will be a little higher for the current poll and we now offer a couple more choices. This is just for information; I still think we should run #323.

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jrsva
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 11:42:04 PM

I think we should always consider what the potential outcome of a poll might be. We should not ask: Do you have a valid driver’s license? We can be quite sure that the result will be 98-99% “Yes” so it is pointless.

In the case of #323, while the result will probably be >90% “None,” since usage is likely to be increasing, following the results over time should be interesting as BD pointed out. We should run this one soon and then run it again every two or three years.

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jrsva
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 11:35:12 PM

On #323, I like BD’s tweak of Z’s version of this poll. We absolutely need “recently” or some other modifier. For example, I think Bugc drives a Prius hybrid regularly. Suppose he had tried out an EV last spring. Without “most recently” or “most often” or some such modifier he would have two answers, which is not allowed.

Which of these types of vehicles did you drive most recently?
• Electric
• Hybrid
• CNG or hydrogen
• Bio-fuel
• None of the above

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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 10:16:07 PM

I disagree. I think the expected outcome should sometimes be considered, but not necessarily a deciding factor. Just one of many things to consider when choosing a poll to run, and when to run it.
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 10:05:31 PM

I don't think what we think the outcome will be should be factored into whether or not we go with a poll.
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 4:47:48 PM

ziyulu,

"Which of these types of vehicles have you ever driven?" could have multiple answers.

"Which of these types of vehicles did you drive most recently?" resolves that and asks for the most recent, which covers all of the people who could have answered your version.

So I don't see how your version would change the results - but maybe I'm not seeing something you are.
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 11:12:46 AM

I'm also thinking if we can modify the question to "Which of these types of vehicles have you ever driven?" This case, the "none of the above" answer choice might be lower.
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 8:41:36 AM

I agree with going with #321, but I think #322 should go back on the shelf since a similar poll has been run twice before with similar results.

[Edited by: scoutmaster at 10/21/2014 8:42:12 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 7:21:33 AM

I share the concern about the 90% outcome, but in this case I think it is somewhat different than the yes/no question that we had. Since non-traditionally powered vehicles are gaining in popularity, the trend could be interesting to watch over time. In short, I'm not opposed to running this one even though the NOTA answer will likely garner 90% of the vote.

Slight tweak:

Which of these types of vehicles did you drive most recently?
• Electric
• Hybrid
• CNG or hydrogen
• Bio-fuel
• None of the above
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 7:14:26 AM

You are right, jrsva - I lost count of the numbers. Post #321 next week and then use #322 the week after and #323 the week after that.
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ziyulu
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 7:07:35 AM

What if we just leave it at "vehicle"? Since in the question, we can limit them to the few choices. Also, I got rid of the "other" option.

Which of these vehicles did you drive most recently?
• Electric
• Hybrid
• CNG or hydrogen
• Bio-fuel
• None of these
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 7:03:03 AM

"My main concern is that this will be another of those polls with >90% for one answer (No). Hybrid will be the only other choice with a significant score, the others dividing up the few left over. I’m willing to run it but I think the results are predictable."

I agree.
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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 12:32:02 AM

Z, when you commented about hybrids awhile back, I noted that what we intend (I think) by the term “alternative-energy” is anything other than a gasoline or diesel ICE. My question then and now is: Is there a better term for it? We cannot have a long, detailed question and I cannot think of a simple term that works better than “alternative-energy.” Given the answer choices I’m confident that the vast majority of our audience will be able to answer the question.

My main concern is that this will be another of those polls with >90% for one answer (No). Hybrid will be the only other choice with a significant score, the others dividing up the few left over. I’m willing to run it but I think the results are predictable.

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Message Posted: Oct 21, 2014 12:17:47 AM

I agree with BD about #322. First, I think it has a better answer set that did 2012-13 and, second, 2½ years is quite a long time for this type of question, especially given the changes in the economy. It also ties in nicely with one of PD’s recent blogs.

However, what about #321? It was posted for this week but not picked up. I thought we would repost it for next week and then use #322 the week after and #323 the week after that.

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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 2:41:32 PM

ziyulu, all hybrids use some form of alternative energy, the term hybrid simply means they use more than one form of energy. Some are primarily gasoline driven but use regenerative braking and others are primarily electric but extend their range with a small gasoline engine. Still others do not use gasoline at all but I'm not sure they are available on the US market.

In any case, hybrids are alternative energy vehicles in some form or other.
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 10:49:27 AM

I'm not sure if hybrid is an "alternative-energy" vehicle. It still uses gasoline.
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 9:15:12 AM

Actually, given the changes in the economy and the like, having over 2 1/2 years since the last similar poll allows this one to potentially show if there are changes in the buying habits of the membership. In other words, I still like 322 for our next poll, and then 323 the following week.
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 8:54:31 AM

Good catch a5. Maybe we go with a different one this week.

I think we go with this one

323, Which alternative energy vehicle did you drive most recently?
• Electric
• Hybrid
• CNG or hydrogen
• Bio-fuel
• Other
• None
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 8:31:11 AM

322 is very similar to Poll 2012-13: What is the most important factor to you when buying a primary vehicle?

it is even closer to the 2007-09: What is the most important factor to you when buying a new car?
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 7:43:54 AM

And again, nothing from TPTB as to why our poll wasn't picked up.
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 12:32:36 AM

Ha - maybe they will give us bonus points by posting the poll on Monday and resetting the ticker so folks that already voted can vote for the real poll...

Of course, there will then be an onslaught of topics asking why there were two polls in less than 7 days, and if they got points for both, and if they didn't vote on the first one can they still get the points...

Na, just cut off the RUM and hope it doesn't become a regular problem.
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Message Posted: Oct 20, 2014 12:28:42 AM

Do we have to wait for Friday to enter the next poll?

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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2014 11:19:08 AM

Cut off CC's RUM :-)
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2014 6:41:41 AM

It happened again! Our poll wasn't picked up and the same one from a year ago was used.
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Message Posted: Oct 19, 2014 12:00:27 AM

 




[Edited by: jrsva at 10/19/2014 12:03:13 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2014 11:33:56 PM

New suggestion based on content in PD's blog:

How often do you drive significantly further to get gas at a lower price?
- Never
- Rarely
- Often
- N/A
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2014 11:33:43 PM

I think we can simplify Z’s price poll a little; looking even six months ahead is stretching it.

When do you think gas prices will bottom out?
• Right now
• In a month
• In 3 months
• 6 months or more

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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2014 7:16:11 AM

New suggestion:

Should electric vehicle owners have to pay to charge their vehicles at public facilities?
- Yes
- No
- No opinion
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2014 7:13:34 AM

New suggestion:

When do you think gas prices will bottom out?
- Right now
- In a month
- In three months
- In six months
- In a year
- Other
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2014 12:53:56 AM


Oh sh--, I did it again. My day has seemed like a Saturday all day long so I'm totally confused. Made the same mistake a couple of months ago. Sheesh. A brain is a terrible thing to lose.
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Message Posted: Oct 18, 2014 12:26:15 AM

Wouldn't you see it Sunday, not Saturday?
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jrsva
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Message Posted: Oct 17, 2014 11:28:01 PM


Z, the new poll is not yet up on the Halifax site, where it is >midnight AT.
That usually means that we will get a rerun of last year's poll.
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Message Posted: Oct 17, 2014 11:25:18 PM


PD’s blog today, “Americans rank MPG most important factor in buying new car,” ties in very nicely with our poll #322, which we were going to post for the 26th, and see whether GB members also rank mpg #1 by 79%.
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