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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2001 9:38:26 PM

On GasBuddy, there are two types of polls. Polls about fuel, fuel prices, vehicles, driving, etc. are called Opinion Polls. New Opinion Polls are created each week, and presented on the left side of the home page; members can earn 100 points each week for answering them.

Polls about the workings of this Web site are called Member Polls. The link to the Member Polls is only present when a member is logged in, but is shown at the top of every page. Member Polls are created only occasionally, when and if the admins feel the need. (No points are earned for answering Member Polls.)

If you have a suggestion for an OPINION Poll, you may post it here for the admins' consideration; please do NOT post such suggestions in the Member Polls topic.

If you have a suggestion for a MEMBER Poll, those suggestions should be posted in the Member Polls topic, and NOT here.

[Edited by: GM at 4/10/2008 11:27:57 AM EST]
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jrsva
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Message Posted: Aug 29, 2014 1:06:23 AM

I’ll go ahead and post the poll for next week since I’m sure I will not be here in the morning.
Someone please bump it up if it gets buried by other discussion.

 
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Here is our proposed poll for next week; please leave us a note when you get it —

Have you noticed problems with power equipment (not vehicles) when using ethanol gasoline (E10)?
• Yes
• No
• I never use ethanol gasoline
• I don’t use power equipment

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jrsva
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Message Posted: Aug 29, 2014 12:01:14 AM


I still have the EW poll on the list that I maintain but it has been changed to a lighter color type and marked as tabled.
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ziyulu
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2014 12:14:50 PM

New suggestion based on PD's blog:

How do you rank the friendliness of drivers in your area?
- Friendly
- Average
- Unfriendly
- I don't know
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2014 12:03:19 PM

The only reason I said round file is that we seem so far from any agreement. Maybe if we bring it up in the future there will be some fresh blood to provide insight, or fresh look at it will bring more concensus.

I didn't mean for the round file to be taken as an absolute so much as it will need to be set aside for some time as currently we are going around in the same circles.
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ziyulu
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2014 10:51:16 AM

I like the topic of extended warranty so I agree that we should put it aside. I disagree to trash it.
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SUVFan
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2014 9:32:48 AM

Even the survey question would need a "depends on the warranty" response to take into account ALL of the variables that have been noted, such as the term, the price, the scope, the mileage limits, the issuer, the make, and the model, among others.

If we were allowed to use all 8 responses and could draw out the bigger reasons for that dependence, I think it would be easier to reach consensus. It is probably best to put it aside, at least for now.

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Byte_Doctor
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2014 9:20:17 AM

bugc's suggested tweak of ziyulu's suggestion is still a survey rather than an opinion poll.

Ziyulu, one's financial condition is also handled by the "Depends on the warranty" option.

If we can't reach a broader consensus on this poll, then it should be shelved (I dislike discarding it, but putting it aside to discuss another time seems reasonable).
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bugc
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2014 8:58:04 AM

Watering down Z's suggestion:

Do you plan on purchasing an extended warranty for your next vehicle?
- Likely
- Unlikely
- I don't know
- NA
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ziyulu
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2014 8:51:07 AM

Well, there are other reasons like depending on one's financial conditions, etc.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2014 6:46:24 AM

If we don't round file the EW, I think Bytedoc's description of "depends" is worth repeating:

<<My point is, you can reduce them to a single option of "It depends on the warranty" because if the vehicle is good, then the warranty may not be worth it unless it is exceptionally inexpensive and has great coverage so it depends on the warranty in that case. If the vehicle is bad, but the warranty is too expensive or doesn't cover enough you still wouldn't want the warranty but you may want a warranty that has good coverage for that vehicle at a good price, so once again it depends on the warranty.

Bottom line, the warranty supersedes the vehicle because for the entire continuum of vehicle quality a warranty may or may not be worth it to you depending on the terms of the warranty so it never depends solely on the vehicle but always depends on the terms of the warranty.>>>
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2014 6:34:36 AM

Round file - that turns it from opinion to survey.
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ziyulu
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2014 6:21:31 AM

Let's take another approach to the extended warranty question:

Do you plan on purchasing an extended warranty for your next vehicle?
- Yes
- No
- I don't know
- NA
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jrsva
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Message Posted: Aug 27, 2014 11:56:46 PM

So what is next? We were discussing one about car washing. I did not make note of anything else that was on the table recently.

On Friday we are resubmitting the one from last week about E10 and power equipment. Then, if I remember correctly, we were going to follow that with the one about raising the fuel tax.

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jrsva
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Message Posted: Aug 27, 2014 11:53:17 PM


The vote between (A) and (B) is a tie or virtually a tie, so there is no consensus. We usually do things here by consensus or at least a super majority, so I will join the growing list of those wanting to commit this one to the circular file or at least the far-back burner.
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Message Posted: Aug 27, 2014 11:05:39 PM

I slightly prefer A1 over A2; am not fond of B; and concur with the idea of tabling this for a while.
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Message Posted: Aug 27, 2014 10:04:03 PM

If you don't include "Depends on the vehicle" then the answers are not complete.
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Aug 27, 2014 4:33:48 PM

I guess we should drop the entire thing.

We are turning it back to a survey with the latest...

As far it worth it - that covers the self insure - the quality of the vehicle, the quality of the warranty, the type of warranty...

I would not buy a warranty unless it provided enough value for what you get for the warranty. I self insure, but if there was a warranty that provided coverage at a price that was attractive and was dependable source (so I knew I would get what I was paying for, I might - again, it comes down to a value judgment that takes in multiple factors. The only other way would be to put several factors and then have enough answers to give combinations of those factors so there was no overlap.

So, I say - off to the round file for this one.
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bugc
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Message Posted: Aug 27, 2014 4:02:02 PM

We have spent way too much effort trying to make everyone happy with this question. My preferences are not strong. I would be happy to drop the whole question. We could keep it simple with B. I could accept A, but I have trouble with the fact that it is worth it for some people and not for others. I can afford to self-insure, but not everyone can. Maybe we need to add "usually" to A, as we already did to B. Or just drop the whole thing....
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ziyulu
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Message Posted: Aug 27, 2014 3:24:12 PM

How about this?

What was the reason you did not purchase an extended warranty for your primary vehicle?
- Too expensive
- Too confusing
- Was not offered one
- Other reason
- NA / I purchased an extended warranty
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SUVFan
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Message Posted: Aug 27, 2014 1:53:22 PM

The problem with B is that without knowing what the warranty is, I believe most could not answer it. Instead of IDK we'd need "WTH?" (I started to put an "F" where the "H" is, but some might take offense . . . .).

A's "depends on the warranty" response is essentially, "some are, some aren't".

If we go with A, the responses will yield significant information. We learn how many would buy an extended warranty no matter what, how many would never buy one, and how many would think about it depending upon what the warranty covered. To learn more from this question, more answers would be needed to better define the coverage of the warranty.

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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Aug 27, 2014 1:37:41 PM

B is not acceptable to me.

Either A or A2 or the round file.

B is rather meaningless.

Warranty is not a yes or no or don't know. If you want yes and no, then we need something more than don't know. I couldn't answer B. None of the answers fit.
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scoutmaster
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Message Posted: Aug 27, 2014 1:06:58 PM

If we go with B there is no waffle.

[Edited by: scoutmaster at 8/27/2014 1:07:33 PM EST]
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Aug 27, 2014 1:00:45 PM

Actually, there are two levels for waffling.The question level and the answer level. In this case, waffling at both levels makes the entire thing toast in my opinion.

As for the "depends" -- I think that is an appropriate "waffle" as it really does depend on various things such as MFG vs 3rd Party, and the specific coverage of the warranty, and the price.

Putting the usually at the top level makes everything below a bigger waffle.

But, I am also fine with putting this one in the dumpster.
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Message Posted: Aug 27, 2014 11:42:35 AM

If you are removing usually as a waffle word, then depends on the warranty is the ultimate in waffling, so...

I vote for B, or to table this one, as too ambiguous.



[Edited by: Zimcity at 8/27/2014 11:43:09 AM EST]
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Aug 27, 2014 7:35:31 AM

I am also waffling on the "new". I wonder if more folks consider extended warranties on used? So, do we take new out, or do back to back with new and used? Or maybe start with the "used"?
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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Aug 27, 2014 7:01:42 AM

z - but, a free warranty would not really be a free warranty. You can bet it is rolled into the price of the vehicle.

Scout - Got it, but I believe the count is still 4 to 3 for a version of A. ;-)

LarryMarg?
Bugc?

Anyone else that normally votes?

Vote A or B since the two A's are essentially the same as far as the discussion has been on this poll suggestion. Then if voting for A, say if you like A-1 or A-2 better.

A-1) Do you think extended warranties on new vehicles are worth it?
A-2) Do you think an extended warranty on a new vehicle is worth it?
• Yes
• No
• Depends on the warranty
• Don't know

B) Do you think extended warranties on new vehicles are usually worth it?
• Yes
• No
• Don't know



[Edited by: TxJeans at 8/27/2014 7:02:19 AM EST]
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ziyulu
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Message Posted: Aug 27, 2014 6:26:21 AM

I was referring to how some dealers might offer a free warranty on top of the factory warranty.
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Message Posted: Aug 27, 2014 5:11:17 AM

I vote for

Do you think paying extra for an extended warranty on a new vehicle is usually worth it?
- Yes
- No
- Don't know
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Message Posted: Aug 27, 2014 12:03:44 AM

I support Tx’s tweak of the question (A2) to make the object singular.

As for Z’s suggestion, “Do you think paying extra for an extended warranty . . . ,” it does not add anything. “Paying extra” is what an extended warranty is all about. The basic warranty is part of the price of the vehicle; extending it costs extra.

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TxJeans
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2014 7:26:30 PM

z "But you can still buy a third party warranty on a new vehicle."

I didn't see anything in A or A-2 that said anything to limit the 3rd party warranty...that is part of the "depends on the warranty".

I bought used last time (and it will likely be last time I buy used - even having my own mechanic inspect it - but that is another story). I have been inundated with mailings about my warranty is ending (already did) and that if I "hurry" I can get extended warranty. It some of the worst low-life type advertising with as much attempt to misrepresent what and who is selling it w/out crossing the legal line other than the burial mailings.

But, we could just take the word "new" out...and I still like the tweak of making it read for one car to reduce the "it depends on the vehicle" concern because then it is narrowed to consider as one vehicle. Personally, I vote to leave the word NEW in...

A-2) Do you think an extended warranty on a new vehicle is worth it?
• Yes
• No
• Depends on the warranty
• Don't know

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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2014 7:02:45 PM

Third parties offer extended warranties on used vehicles, in fact since our family has purchased two used vehicles in the recent past we've been inundated with extended warranty offers.
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2014 5:38:50 PM

How often are "extended warranties" offered on used vehicles? The extended warranties offered on new cars are often a year or two, perhaps more, with mileage additions comparable to the original warranty. Usually, used cars are purchased, "as is" without any warranty, much less an extended one.

A longer answer list would be better, but with the site still wanting shorter answer sets, I think version A remains as good as we're getting. Jrsva's explanation of how each warranty is tied to each vehicle was perfect. The vehicle is simply one of the things "depends on the warranty" brings into the mix. I think version A is as good as we're going to get.

[Edited by: SUVFan at 8/26/2014 5:40:23 PM EST]
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2014 2:40:00 PM

"Why should we limit it to new vehicle? "

I imagine because the answers would be different for new vs. used vehicles. So when / if we run the poll for new vehicle, we could then run the same poll for used vehicles and compare the results.
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2014 9:48:11 AM

Why should we limit it to new vehicle?
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2014 9:27:44 AM

I like

Do you think paying extra for an extended warranty on a new vehicle is usually worth it?
- Yes
- No
- Don't know

It can depend on the warranty AND the vehicle. If we are not going to include both then I don't think we should include either.
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2014 9:08:13 AM

But you can still buy a third party warranty on a new vehicle.
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2014 7:04:18 AM

Just to reiterate - my vote is still A - Actually A-2 - minor modification.

A-2) Do you think an extended warranty on a new vehicle is worth it?
• Yes
• No
• Depends on the warranty
• Don't know

I agree with the "usually" not adding to the question this time.

I also agree that there is no way to put depends on warranty and depends on vehicle w/out causing confusion and overlap of the answers because the warranty and the vehicle are tied together. To that end, I made a slight change to specify "a" new vehicle. This clarifies one warranty to one vehicle. Maybe that will make it more palatable?

It depends on the warranty is critical to the answer. One consumer board I read argues on this extensively and concludes that MOST are not. There is one brand mfg warranty that seems to be well supported (not mentioning the brand so we don't go off on tangent).

If you take out depends, then you need to add in 3rd party vs mfg and so many other choices.

[Edited by: TxJeans at 8/26/2014 7:08:03 AM EST]
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ziyulu
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2014 6:07:43 AM

How about this?

Do you think paying extra for an extended warranty is usually worth it?
- Yes
- No
- Don't know
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2014 6:06:52 AM

I think adding "it depends on the warranty" makes it even more ambiguous. Of course it is worth it if the extended warranty is free, right? I wonder if we can mention something about paying for the warranty.
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2014 12:50:12 AM

Welcome back SUV, good to hear from you.

To be sure that we are voting for the same two choices, let me label them —

A) Do you think extended warranties on new vehicles are worth it?
• Yes
• No
• Depends on the warranty
• Don't know

B) Do you think extended warranties on new vehicles are usually worth it?
• Yes
• No
• Don't know

At this point I see 4 votes for (A) and 3 votes for (B). I prefer (A) because “usually” is a waffle word that does not really help and because the details of the warranty are an important consideration. Scout keeps saying, “It could depend on the vehicle,” but an EW is written for a specific vehicle, so the make and model of the vehicle are included in the details of the warranty.

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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2014 9:51:37 PM

I vote for the version most recently posted by SUVfan:

Do you think extended warranties on new vehicles are worth it?
• Yes
• No
• Depends on the warranty
• Don't know

The "usually" doesn't solve anything and just muddies the water.
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2014 8:38:08 PM

I am okay with Z's version of the extended warranty question.
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2014 7:53:43 PM

I vote for the version of the warranty poll most recently posted by SUVFan, because as previously stated it may depend on the warranty (which subsumes the vehicle variation by the way the warranty covers that particular vehicle).
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2014 5:01:31 PM

I vote for Z's latest version of the warranty question.

jrsva,

It could depend on the vehicle, too.
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2014 11:51:45 AM

The other version of getting rid of "it depends" is worded slightly differently if you read the question carefully. It says, "usually".

Do you think extended warranties on new vehicles are usually worth it?
• Yes
• No
• Don't know
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CC
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2014 11:23:30 AM

Sorry about the poll. My fault. I was only in for a couple hours and in trying to get everything else done before the weekend, I forgot to check here for a poll suggestion.
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2014 8:56:17 AM

The fuel tax poll looks good to go.

Of the two proposals for the touchscreen poll, I like the original version, "Do you like touchscreen controls that are found in newer vehicles?" There might be some tweaks to the answer set that could probe what folks like or dislike. I think they are nearly as much of a distraction as phones, especially if the radio readout tells you the artist, title, and release year. How is that much different from reading a text? But I digress . . . .

Bugc's adaptation turns it into a statistical question, which I'd like to see avoided whenever it's possible. Here, if you have a touchscreen, you almost have to use it.

The E10 small appliance question is one worthwhile exception.
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2014 8:49:01 AM

Looking back at the EW question discussion, I don't know how you could ask a question without choice #3, with or without the "usually" qualifier. Scoutmaster replied to TxJeans analysis of why it "depends on the warranty" with "in your opinion." Exactly! That's what opinion polls are about!

Do you think extended warranties on new vehicles are worth it?
• Yes
• No
• Depends on the warranty
• Don't know
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2014 8:20:04 AM

It was exactly a year ago. You know how the moderator puts the question in the database, then sets the timer to have it show up at midnight on Sunday. I wonder if the moderator put the question in and set the timer to 2013-35, instead of 2014-35.
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2014 7:41:22 AM

Looks like the person didn't know where to go to find the poll suggestion, didn't have anyone to ask for input so just posted the one from 1 year ago...
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Message Posted: Aug 24, 2014 11:18:24 PM

CC has always been reliable in picking up our suggested poll and leaving a note when he does so. Things get a little wifty sometimes when he is not there on Friday. Sometimes someone else picks up the poll and all is well, sometimes it is posted late and sometimes they put up something else. This one appeared a little over an hour late; how they chose it out of the archives is anybody’s guess.
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