Zimcity

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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 11:58:18 AM
I'm not sure why you would say that Scoutmaster, other than your obsessive need to be contrary to anything and everything. It must be so exhausting being you, lol.
So by your logic, we would also need to remove writing them down and recording them, as neither of those methods involve "remembering" the prices.
Perhaps we change the question to:
How do you usually gather the gas prices you’re going to post?
[Edited by: Zimcity at 6/18/2013 11:59:48 AM EST]
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jrsva

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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 11:31:03 AM
I accept Jm's edit, seconded by Zim, just below.
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scoutmaster

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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 9:41:13 AM
Actually based on the question we should leave out Post on site with a mobile device.
How do you usually remember the gas prices you’re going to post? • Write them down • Record a message • Memorize • I don't post gas prices • NA/other
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Zimcity

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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 9:11:39 AM
I favor jmdeng's tweak to reduce the ambiguity of "on site"
How do you usually remember the gas prices you’re going to post? • Write them down • Record a message • Memorize • Post immediately with mobile device • NA/other
"If you drive out of sight of the sign you are memorizing. So here is my slight change:"
Hopefully, people will use the mobile device answer if they enter prices with the app, regardless of whether they are still in view of the station, as that would be my response and how I would expect it to go. There are times where the app needs to be refreshed, or diesel clicked on to bring up the proper station and there is a short term memory need, lol.
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ziyulu

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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 7:09:58 AM
I'm good with the latest version:
How do you usually remember the gas prices you’re going to post? • Write them down • Record a message • Memorize • Post on site with mobile device • NA/other
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jmdeng

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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 3:18:59 AM
> Post on site with mobile device
Having just had the mobile site vs full site discussion (and not reading the reason for this wording), my first thought was that we were talking about posting on the full website with the mobile device. Which of course, didn't make much sense.
How about: > Post immediately with mobile device
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jrsva

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Message Posted: Jun 18, 2013 12:26:48 AM
I think those who do not post prices (12%) should select “NA”; offering six options is stretching CC’s limit so I don’t think we should do that unless truly necessary. My intent for the mobile-device choice was that it meant posting immediately, while on site. If you drive out of sight of the sign you are memorizing. So here is my slight change:
How do you usually remember the gas prices you’re going to post? • Write them down • Record a message • Memorize • Post on site with mobile device • NA/other
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Zimcity

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Message Posted: Jun 17, 2013 12:21:31 PM
"How do you usually remember the gas prices you’re going to post? • Write them down • Record a message • Memorize • Post with mobile device • I don't post prices • NA/other"
This seems good to me, though I don't post prices could probably be rolled in with NA.
"I was wondering if post with mobile device can be combined with N/A as it does not apply if you post immediately."
I think post with mobile device is a separate line and if anything, it would fall under Memorize, for those who wait until they are at a light or something before posting the price.
Perhaps it should be modified to Post ASAP with mobile device???
[Edited by: Zimcity at 6/17/2013 12:25:41 PM EST]
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jerry972

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Message Posted: Jun 17, 2013 9:46:43 AM
The scoutmaster/ziyulu version is okay with me.
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ziyulu

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Message Posted: Jun 17, 2013 7:23:52 AM
scoutmaster says,
Since there are people on this site who don't post prices how about
How do you usually remember the gas prices you’re going to post? • Write them down • Record a message • Memorize • Post with mobile device • I don't post prices • NA/other
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ziyulu

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Message Posted: Jun 17, 2013 7:23:33 AM
I was wondering if post with mobile device can be combined with N/A as it does not apply if you post immediately.
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scoutmaster

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Message Posted: Jun 17, 2013 6:48:46 AM
Since there are people on this site who don't post prices how about
How do you usually remember the gas prices you’re going to post? • Write them down • Record a message • Memorize • Post with mobile device • I don't post prices • NA/other
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jmdeng

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Message Posted: Jun 17, 2013 12:47:20 AM
Food for thought...
Which answer does one choose if one drives past a gas station, spots the gas prices, memorizes them. Comes to a stop light, then enters them via mobile phone.
Ignoring the legality and safety of the above method (or you can swap out stop light with "turns into a side street a few blocks away").
I would choose mobile phone, but if one really thinks about it, it's the same as spotting a gas station a block away from my house, memorizing it, arriving home, and entering it on my computer, in which case I would choose "memorize".
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jrsva

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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2013 11:09:22 PM
A couple of tweaks to the price-posting poll —
How do you usually remember the gas prices you’re going to post? • Write them down • Record a message • Memorize • Post with mobile device • NA/other
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jrsva

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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2013 11:34:32 AM
I doubt that taking a picture would be the *usual* way to record prices for even 1% of GBs. Perhaps change the last answer to “NA/other.”
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ziyulu

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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2013 8:04:09 AM
Also, since many cell phones have cameras these days, we might add an option "take a picture".
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scoutmaster

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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2013 6:42:05 AM
How about
How do you usually remember the gas prices you post? • Write them down • Record a message • Memorize • Post with mobile device • I don't post prices
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jmdeng

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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2013 4:51:46 AM
Not that I prefer this version, but in case it spurs other ideas...
"How do you keep track of the gas prices that you spot?"
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MyVue08

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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2013 2:16:30 AM
I like adding the word "usually" to the question.
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ziyulu

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Message Posted: Jun 16, 2013 12:02:15 AM
"How do you usually remember the gas prices you post?" is a little confusing. Why would one want to remember the prices you post?
How about modify it to "How do you usually remember the gas prices you're about to post?"
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jrsva

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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2013 11:17:55 PM
I added “usually” to the original question because almost everyone will use different methods depending on the circumstances.
How do you usually remember the gas prices you post? • Write them down • Record a message • Memorize • Post with mobile device • NA
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jrsva

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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2013 11:05:16 PM
I don’t much like the modified question for the price-posting poll. A lot of folks don’t use a computer at all to post prices; that’s why we have the fifth answer, “Post with mobile device.” Use of a mobile device implies that the posting is done in real time so that there is no need to make any other record of the prices. I suppose that is not strictly true but we can deal with only a limited amount of detail in these polls.
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bugc

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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2013 4:12:26 PM
Yes, "... wait awhile before running it" was what I had in mind.
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ziyulu

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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2013 7:32:21 AM
bugc's latest suggestion is too similar to the gas price posting question. Maybe wait awhile before running it.
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ziyulu

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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2013 7:31:05 AM
Slightly modify the question to "How do you remember the gas prices you're about to post until you get to a computer?"
[Edited by: ziyulu at 6/15/2013 7:31:55 AM EST]
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bugc

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Message Posted: Jun 15, 2013 12:22:44 AM
Maybe not strictly an opinion, but interesting: How often do you visit a GasBuddy website? • A few times a year • A few times a month • A few times a week • Every day
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jrsva

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Message Posted: Jun 14, 2013 11:28:07 PM
This was proposed a few days ago but not discussed. Y’all want to consider it for next week?
How do you usually remember the gas prices you post? • Write them down • Record a message • Memorize • Post with mobile device • NA
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jrsva

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Message Posted: Jun 14, 2013 11:25:10 PM
Hmmmm, this does not bode well. No message from CC sometimes means that the poll was not picked up. I guess we will find out early Sunday morning.
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jrsva

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Message Posted: Jun 14, 2013 10:45:53 AM
There are still a couple of dissenters but this version has a majority now.
* * * * Moderator * * * *
Here is our proposed poll for next week; please leave us a note when you get it —
How often do you use public transportation? • Never • Rarely • A few times a year • A few times a month • Daily / almost daily
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ziyulu

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Message Posted: Jun 14, 2013 10:21:23 AM
What question are we running this week?
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Bruce1224

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Message Posted: Jun 14, 2013 9:38:48 AM
If another vote helps, I favor the last version posted by jrsva, with maybe a minor mod or two:
How often do you use public transportation? • Never / almost never • A few times a year • A few times a month • Daily / almost daily
I deleted "rarely" since it seems to be covered in the first response.
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ziyulu

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Message Posted: Jun 14, 2013 7:16:03 AM
scoutmaster says,
I still like
How often do you use public transportation? • Daily • Weekly • Once a month • Only when I need to • NA/never
It is more accurate.
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ziyulu

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Message Posted: Jun 14, 2013 7:15:27 AM
What if we change "Daily / almost daily" to "Several times a week"? Would that cover all bases?
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scoutmaster

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Message Posted: Jun 14, 2013 6:20:08 AM
I still like
How often do you use public transportation? • Daily • Weekly • Once a month • Only when I need to • NA/never
It is more accurate.
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jrsva

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Message Posted: Jun 13, 2013 11:36:21 PM
I will throw my vote with Bug and Zim to get this thing settled. I do see something of a gap between “almost daily” and “a few times a month” but all of these (except “never”) are open to some interpretation beyond our control. “A few times a week” is essentially the same as “almost daily” and “a few times a month” is not much different from “weekly.” Jerry offers a reasonable way to fill that gap; I would go with that if others will agree but I don’t want to extend the discussion.
How often do you use public transportation? • Never • Rarely • A few times a year • A few times a month • Daily / almost daily
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jerry972

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Message Posted: Jun 13, 2013 8:13:25 PM
My version last night was attempting to address the gap between daily and monthly but using "at least". Since that did not stick, how about:
How often do you use public transportation? • Never • Rarely • A few times a year • Weekly to monthly • Daily / almost daily
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ziyulu

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Message Posted: Jun 13, 2013 5:45:41 PM
How about "weekly" then?
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plastic

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Message Posted: Jun 13, 2013 1:50:14 PM
"a few times a week" is right between "Daily / almost daily"
Don't think the extra line would be necessary.
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ziyulu

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Message Posted: Jun 13, 2013 1:38:45 PM
I also favor this version; however, should there be an option of a few times a week?
How often do you use public transportation? • Never • Rarely • A few times a year • A few times a month • Daily / almost daily
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Zimcity

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Message Posted: Jun 13, 2013 1:31:50 PM
I favor bugc's version:
How often do you use public transportation? • Never • Rarely • A few times a year • A few times a month • Daily / almost daily
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scoutmaster

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Message Posted: Jun 13, 2013 11:29:28 AM
What problems jrsva other than the 4th one jrsva? And if you leave out daily, you increase the number of NA's.
[Edited by: scoutmaster at 6/13/2013 11:30:09 AM EST]
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jrsva

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Message Posted: Jun 13, 2013 11:09:01 AM
I still prefer Jerry’s wording for the 4th answer to Bug’s. That’s the only difference between them and not a big deal either way. Scout’s version has too many problems, especially that 4th answer, and no “rarely” or equivalent answer.
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ziyulu

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Message Posted: Jun 13, 2013 7:09:50 AM
scoutmaster says,
I still like
How often do you use public transportation? • Daily • Weekly • Once a month • Only when I need to • NA/never
bugc's version is to vague.
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scoutmaster

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Message Posted: Jun 13, 2013 6:22:09 AM
I still like
How often do you use public transportation? • Daily • Weekly • Once a month • Only when I need to • NA/never
bugc's version is to vague.
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jmdeng

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Message Posted: Jun 13, 2013 1:52:19 AM
Would rarely and a few times a year be merge-able to allow for a new answer?
Without "a few times a year", I would have thought rarely was once or twice a year.
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bugc

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Message Posted: Jun 13, 2013 12:28:39 AM
I'd prefer to stay with How often do you use public transportation? • Never • Rarely • A few times a year • A few times a month • Daily / almost daily There is a big gap between daily and monthly, which becomes greater with jerry's change, and we could also quibble about overlapping ranges since "at least" does not imply a top limit.
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jrsva

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Message Posted: Jun 12, 2013 11:06:27 PM
A couple of small tweaks to Z’s recording poll —
How do you usually remember the gas prices you post? • Write them down • Record a message • Memorize • Post with mobile device • NA
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jrsva

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Message Posted: Jun 12, 2013 11:02:46 PM
I'm good with Jerry's tweak. If everyone else is let's put it up on Friday.
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jerry972

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Message Posted: Jun 12, 2013 5:13:18 PM
One suggested tweak:
How often do you use public transportation? • Never • Rarely • A few times a year • At least once a month • Daily / almost daily
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ziyulu

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Message Posted: Jun 12, 2013 1:21:58 PM
New suggestion:
How do you remember the gas prices you post? - Write them down - Record a message - Memorize - Use mobile device to post right then - N/A
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scoutmaster

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Message Posted: Jun 12, 2013 10:54:47 AM
I like jrsva's last version.
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