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miniskunk

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Message Posted: Apr 14, 2014 6:14:55 PM

You won't find the 300 MPG Volkswagen XL1 in an American showroom, in fact it has even been denied a tour of America because it is too efficient for the American public to be made widely aware of, and oil profits are too high in America with the status quo in place.

Volkswagen's New 300 MPG Car Not Allowed In America Because It Is Too Efficient. No tour has been allowed for this car because the myth that 50 mpg is virtually impossible to obtain from even a stripped down econobox is too profitable to let go of, and when it comes to corporate oil profits, ignorance is bliss. Rest of the story here: http://tinyurl.com/mdj48vr

[Edited by: miniskunk at 4/14/2014 6:17:18 PM EST]
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Les4hdtv
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Message Posted: May 22, 2014 9:50:02 AM

At 60 HP, this car could only be practical as a micro-niche, inner-city car.
Out on the Intestates where the V-8s and turbo-diesel truckers rule every lane, you can get your assets run over driving one of these Eruo-bugs.
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contiki
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Message Posted: May 22, 2014 6:39:29 AM

No interest in Volkswagen.............
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drgeeforce
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Message Posted: May 21, 2014 3:13:46 PM

Back in 1986, there was a car getting 53MPG hwy made by Suzuki, cost was $5,650, called the Chevy Sprint ER...it must be a BS article...you really can't believe this article...If only this were true... But, alas, it is not...This is a completely silly post..Sounds like a baloney story to me...BS by another name...If an admin wants to delete this topic go ahead...
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drgeeforce
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Message Posted: May 21, 2014 3:04:27 PM

in 1999, while the average American car got 25 MPG, Honda introduced a two-seater vehicle that cost $19,000 got 61MPG hwy called the Insight...it must be a BS article...you really can't believe this article...If only this were true... But, alas, it is not...This is a completely silly post..Sounds like a baloney story to me...BS by another name...If an admin wants to delete this topic go ahead..
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drgeeforce
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Message Posted: May 21, 2014 2:55:22 PM

Wow! in 2008 there was an all electric vehicle that costs $109,000, gets 200+ miles on a single charge, called a Tesla... it must be a BS article...you really can't believe this article...If only this were true... But, alas, it is not...This is a completely silly post..Sounds like a baloney story to me...BS by another name...If an admin wants to delete this topic go ahead..

[Edited by: drgeeforce at 5/21/2014 2:55:52 PM EST]
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contiki
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Message Posted: May 18, 2014 6:48:33 AM

No interest in Volkswagen..............
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Floridaman2013
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Message Posted: May 18, 2014 4:58:06 AM

Read this before; it is a BS article.
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Sneakers55
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Message Posted: May 18, 2014 1:40:57 AM

It only costs $146,000 and it has only two seats.
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dassfg
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Message Posted: May 17, 2014 8:37:06 AM

Really? 300MPG?
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OilerFan
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Message Posted: May 17, 2014 8:06:35 AM

THis is frustrating.
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contiki
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Message Posted: May 17, 2014 6:54:56 AM

No interest in Volkswagen at all.....................
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contiki
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Message Posted: May 15, 2014 6:42:20 AM

I am not interest in owning a Volkswagen......................
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lyanMI
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Message Posted: May 14, 2014 4:14:11 PM

US welcomes innovation
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davisadm
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Message Posted: May 14, 2014 10:36:16 AM

You really don't believe this 300MPG story is true, do you?
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gvan
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Message Posted: May 14, 2014 9:26:44 AM

Well, apparently it isn't allowed in Germany either.
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Mikeyl
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Message Posted: May 11, 2014 9:14:05 PM

If only this were true. But, alas, it is not.

There is on vehicle that goes 300 MPG. If there were, we all would have heard about it... and not from a "tiny.url."

There is nothing illegal about a car that could do this that would prevent it from being shipped here, anyway.
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OilerFan
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Message Posted: May 11, 2014 10:42:16 AM

I want one.
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Houckster
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Message Posted: May 11, 2014 8:53:26 AM

This is a completely silly post by MINISKUNK. This car costs $120k and you have to crawl into the vehicle. It is completely impracticle for general use. It's a demonstration project, no more.

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MertieMan
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Message Posted: May 10, 2014 7:29:18 AM

Oil companies alone would stifle this.
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tiny1oh
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Message Posted: May 10, 2014 5:05:22 AM

I believe it. That's big business and politics.
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shstew
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Message Posted: May 9, 2014 9:41:33 AM

Sounds like a baloney story to me.
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eyegotgas2
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Message Posted: May 9, 2014 3:17:16 AM

Probably not a vehicle you would want to drive on the highway
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GrumpyCat
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Message Posted: May 8, 2014 4:32:25 PM

You won't find VW's 300 MPG car for sale ANYWHERE.
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OilerFan
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Message Posted: May 8, 2014 10:30:47 AM

I wouldn't mind test-driving an XL1.
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Vin63
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Message Posted: May 8, 2014 10:05:55 AM

My 2.0L TDI routinely gets 50 mpg on the freeway.

"No tour has been allowed for this car because the myth that 50 mpg is virtually impossible to obtain from even a stripped down econobox is too profitable to let go of…"
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jimmy544
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2014 1:23:41 PM

The car in question probably does not meet the requirements of lighting, bumpers, crash test, or even other more esoteric reasons. I am sure that it would not be kept out because of too hight fuel economy.
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dieselpower2014
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Message Posted: Apr 22, 2014 12:38:07 AM

that sounds about right.
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Camry05
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Message Posted: Apr 21, 2014 11:28:12 PM

OceanArcher is correct, which is why European car manufacturers have to modify a host of features on their cars for the North American market, some of which include, bumpers, head lights, tail lights, gauges among other things. Fortunately for cars manufactured outside North America, the market is large enough that these modifications are taken care of at the assembly line and not done later. If the XL1 can satisfactorily pass the crash worthiness tests, there is almost no reason the car won't be allowed to be sold here. Now, whether the US public want such a car or would buy such a car is another matter. I have read that the most recent Geelys and Byds do pass the US crash worthiness standards, but do these companies feel that they can profitably sell those cars here?

[Edited by: Camry05 at 4/21/2014 11:28:57 PM EST]
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drydem
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Message Posted: Apr 20, 2014 1:01:41 PM

The VW XL1 has a carbon fiber body making it extremely light and very narrow and small with a motor scooter size diesel engine. It won't sell for the same reason a Edison 2 VLC car (which gets +100 mpg and seats four) won't sell. Poor road conditions would make riding such vehicles a very harsh ride. Also because American are often very big and heavy - fuel economy would drop simply due to passenger weight. Yes you could get 300 mpg with a slender bicyclist as a driver - but pick your average over size overweight American as your driver who speeds up to the stop light and does jack rabbit starts and the fuel efficiency of VW XL1 will likely drop to 120 mpg - still not bad for a motorcycle or motor scooter - but not much better.


[Edited by: drydem at 4/20/2014 1:03:43 PM EST]
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MertieMan
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Message Posted: Apr 20, 2014 9:16:14 AM

300 mpg? I find this extremely hard to believe with any engine.
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contiki
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Message Posted: Apr 20, 2014 7:58:27 AM

No interest at all in Volkswagen......
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drydem
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2014 4:54:57 AM

The diesel-electric hybrid prototype VW XL1 can only carry 1 liter (0.264 gallons) of diesel fuel so at 300 mpg - it has a range of about 79 miles - about the range of a Nissan Leaf on a good day. One gallon of diesel weight about 7 pounds. The VW XL1 is a hi tech fuel efficient prototype but it is not designed as a *green* car and thus probably doesn't have the emission equipment which would allow it to be driven in the USA. The EU's diesel emission control standards are weaker than the USA's diesel emission control standards - Diesel is really popular in Europe but not so popular in the USA.

[Edited by: drydem at 4/19/2014 4:59:19 AM EST]
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davisadm
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Message Posted: Apr 17, 2014 10:40:53 AM

This looks like a BS article.
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badbonita
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Message Posted: Apr 17, 2014 10:10:45 AM

That! I would believe. Of course, the government is saying the cause if that VW is unwilling to modify their product to conform with the US requirements.
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Message Posted: Apr 17, 2014 9:54:56 AM

I saw a revealing expose in the leading video research journal named, "Hee Haw", where the experimenter added every gas saving device on the market, totaled the savings, found to be over 100% and sure enough when driven his gas tank overflowed with all the savings!

[Edited by: GrumpyCat at 4/17/2014 9:56:02 AM EST]
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Boyrr
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Message Posted: Apr 17, 2014 6:07:30 AM

BS by another name...
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twt
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Message Posted: Apr 17, 2014 2:47:11 AM

What a bunch of BS.
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OceanArcher
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Message Posted: Apr 16, 2014 10:33:59 PM

Several cars are not allowed in the US -- but it's because they are not crash worthy
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miniskunk
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Message Posted: Apr 16, 2014 4:13:05 PM

I think I will just leave it up anyway as I know many who believe such a vehicle is possible might want to discuss it. It is hard to say really where the truth lies. If Car and Driver covered it, there might be some truth to the claims. I would not personally disbelieve a 150-200mpg vehicle would be possible in the future. 300mpg seems stretching the truth even under the most ideal conditions. It wasn't that long ago it was thought the 100mpg car was a myth and a pipe dream, but that record has been proven and exceeded. Big money will go to great lengths to protect their business models. This is a well known fact. Take a company like Monsanto for instance that spreads a lot of money around Washington DC to get their poisons and frankenfoods approved. They play very dirty every time the public has tried to get labeling on their food or challenge the safety of a very profitable product they developed.

[Edited by: miniskunk at 4/16/2014 4:16:21 PM EST]
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Glasman
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"show me"
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Probably has wings hidden like the (lady-bugs) beetle....
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Message Posted: Apr 15, 2014 9:10:14 PM

I want to see the 300 MPG car with my own eyes. I do not believe it will get this kind of mileage.
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Message Posted: Apr 15, 2014 9:06:28 PM

"If an admin wants to delete this topic go ahead."

The moderators don't monitor most of the discussions, generally only monitoring the Talk Back To Us and the Suggest A Website Improvement discussion categories. They'll never see your request and others will simply comment on what you've posted, many of them will say "The government is trying to keep it off the market because they get paid by lobbyists or the car companies, and so on.

Click the Report Abuse link and complete the form, simply telling the moderators to close the topic that you (yourself) started as it's been answered and it's obsolete. The moderators will likely do it for you, but not for others (as you were the one who started the topic). While it's called "Report Abuse", it's not held against you.
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drgeeforce
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Message Posted: Apr 15, 2014 6:30:41 PM

The price of the XL1 is a little steep, so even if it was avail in the states can anyone afford it? $120,000.00 sounds like only the elites can benefit from this technology.
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2014-volkswagen-xl1-first-drive-review
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miniskunk
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Message Posted: Apr 15, 2014 4:10:56 PM

Dang....should of checked Snopes on this one. My bad. If an admin wants to delete this topic go ahead.


[Edited by: miniskunk at 4/15/2014 4:14:28 PM EST]
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maxstar
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Message Posted: Apr 14, 2014 7:33:20 PM

What are you talking about miniskunk, this story?

No Sale

[Edited by: maxstar at 4/14/2014 7:34:06 PM EST]
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