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Bill100

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Message Posted: Dec 19, 2013 8:12:07 AM



I adamantly take the view that differences in speed actually reduce accidents. Admittedly, increased speed increases the severity of an accident, in the event an accident actually transpires. And they do increase the chances of an accident to some degree due to reduced reaction time of both drivers.

But, to a very large extent, increased speed decreases the odds of the accident ever happening in the first place because time spent in proximity with any other given object is greatly reduced. Accidents actually happen because 2 objects try to occupy the same space at the same time. Increased speed differences actually lessen the time other vehicles are in your proximity and represent a danger to you. I am much more scared by a driver a mere 3 feet away from me on my left side travelling at 65 mph when I am travelling 64 mph. Might that person sneeze? Might their kid do something unexpected? Is he or she on the phone? Drinking or spilling hot coffee? or Alcohol? Is there a fly in their car they may try to swat? I do not know what circumstances may happen in their vehicle. I can only control what I am doing.

I do not suggest people drive 85-90 mph or more when most people are driving 70 mph. But if one driver wishes to pass another vehicle, that driver should increase his or her speed to 5-10 mph faster than the vehicle they intend to pass. Or just don't pass. Get off cruise control for a minute if necessary. They will not get a ticket for speeding and might actually get thanked (for keeping things safer) by both the police and by other drivers who are not being blocked and controlled by others. They can actually reduce road rage.

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dontuknowOH
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2014 5:27:02 AM

I must agree with Bill100 I have never had a problem with another driver approaching and then passing on a four lane and then continuing on ahead out of sight. Same for a two lane if the marked pavement lines are used correct.

Two lanes can be just a big dangerous event when passers are over in the opposite traffic lane taking chances, guessing a lot to make their move, depending entirely on vehicle performance, and assuming your speed is at the posted limits(unknown) for sure. Speed then can be good/bad for those involved even a good long clean rescue ditch is

(handy)! Speed could be then a motive but HURRY would be a better word.

Close proximity also cuts away reaction time for any recovering of anyone's slight ERROR, Say what! Nobody errors now do they?..... I must ask "What Planet are you on anyway"? Just asking, that info comes in handy.
Distance apart from each vehicle, the Correct distance (proximity can be a saving event I have no doubts, extends the time factor for any recovery. A big driving tension relief also!

Remember that there is always a spot in a wrecking-yard for anyone's vehicle, or rather they will make extra room. Please Watch the Hurry Stuff!
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bikergirlss
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2014 6:11:14 PM

mostly inattention causing accidents
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MertieMan
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 4:44:58 AM

The main cause of 98 percent of all accidents is in attention .
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bacvain
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2014 3:25:19 PM

speeding dangerously causes accident. If in traffic, its dangerous. If the cost is clear, its different.

I agree that when someone is passing you on the left lane, they should pass and not cruise. that's not a cruising lane. Too much of that in Ontario. Pass and move back to center lane or right lane.
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dontuknowOH
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2014 2:04:46 PM

I just don't see where any person can always hold their sanity, intellect or actions responsible to prevent any accident from happening. Whether it's a wrench slipping off a bolt, crane hook fracturing at the neck or tree limb giving way to crush something or nothing.

Accidents happen whether a failure is present or not, Twenty minutes ago I helped a motorist get his Fish dinner home when his batter failed to start his vehicle, Thankfully He was, and later He will need a battery, I did about two weeks ago, no accident just a battery's life ended 7.5 years, not bad I'm happy to get a new one while the weather fine...... It's Done!

My response/ability seen clearly.....
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Vin63
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2014 9:49:51 AM

This is news to me. I always believed people caused accidents. I guess it's another thing people can absolve themselves of responsibility.
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dontuknowOH
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2014 9:37:50 AM

The major thing I always keep in mind is of all the things in life I have ever owned, none were designed perfect, they sometimes failed in some way or other.

Most always they came with a form of a warranty, to build my confidence at purchase time, now extended warranty. So that kind of tells Me something, whispers Me something, and I often get that Hint, and keep it in mind where speed is involved, My speed of course, I can't control the other's or their warranties. Guessing has merit but not a lot....

I've learned that Guessing has a lot of Buts attached to it But, But, But, But, maybe more....
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GLM4205
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2014 5:42:58 AM

"Speeding is especially dangerous when the speed differential is high"

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dontuknowOH
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2014 9:54:57 PM

Only when there becomes a combination of conditions of intense activity>>> idiot/speed/vehicle/nonsense/influence/attitude/potent whatever... More....
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MudNutZ
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2014 1:28:36 PM

yes
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carinthuist
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2014 11:20:52 AM

yes
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badbobKY
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2014 8:22:09 AM

yes
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poetdog73
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2014 12:47:44 AM

yes but texting is catching up!
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pghbill
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2014 12:29:53 AM

no
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Hemond
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2014 4:50:32 PM

I think alot of accidents today are due to texting and general phone chitchat while driving.

I've personally witnessed two crashes now where the driver was texting. I testified for the 2nd one. (what a pleasure it was nailing that texter...I deeply regret not doing the same on the first crash I witnessed).

Just look around you next time you're on the interstate. Literally every driver has a phone epoxied to their skull. Some are travelling 45mph in a 65 zone while doing so. This is far more dangerous than those who claim speeding is a factor. Cops ought to be put on alert for slow drivers and come down hard. Nail these menaces.



[Edited by: Hemond at 7/15/2014 4:52:43 PM EST]
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HotRod10
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2014 12:55:15 PM

"Speeding is especially dangerous when the speed differential is high"

What about those cases where the speed differential is high because all but a few people are speeding? Wouldn't it be safer for everyone to be speeding?

Obviously, the best solution is to have the speed limit set consistent with the design of the roadway, which not surprisingly correlates fairly well with typical speed on most of those roadways. The problem arises when some bureaucrat arbitrarily reduces the speed limit and some people risk their lives and the lives of others by adhering to it.
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GrumpyCat
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2014 10:33:34 AM

"Higher speed, reduces your reaction time. DUH"

No it does not. Your reaction time is EXACTLY the sameā€¦
unless the rate of speed you are driving has lulled you to sleep.
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GrumpyCat
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2014 10:32:00 AM

Definition of speeding: Driving faster than what a bureaucrat has decided is good for you.

I fully agree that driving faster than the conditions permit is a major contributing factor but I disagree that an "expert" bureaucrat can assign a one-size-fits all appropriate speed.
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Hemond
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2014 9:15:55 AM

Definitely not.

I drive above the limit on the expressway all time. Usually about 80. While on the Masspike where the traffic goes at 90, or 95, I keep pace. Never had an incident.

If you are attentive, look in all directions, and stay off the blasted cell phone, then you can drive as fast as you are comfortable with. Its not the speed at all.
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Houckster
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2014 8:23:28 AM

MYBIGTRUCK writes: speeding itself does not cause accidents... incompetent drivers do...
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Yes it does. Speeding increases the risks of driving to everyone.

Speeding reduces the amount of time that a person has to respond to whatever is happening, especially if what's happening isn't something that's normally expected. It also increases the required stopping distance to avoid a collision.

Speeding makes lane changes more difficult because the ability of a driver to monitor what's going on behind is much less than the ability to monitor what's going on ahead. Speeders don't usually take this into account.

Speeding increases the skills necessary to be safe for everyone and that skill level is often more than many people have attained. And that skill level increases, probably exponentially, as a function of traffic density. And if someone does something wrong, many vehicles can be involved in the accident.

Speeding is especially dangerous when the speed differential is high and it is also especially dangerous given the reduced attention people have for driving given the level of phone use.

Speed limits are there to keep speeds at levels that don't tax driving abilities thereby promoting an orderly flow of traffic.

People who speed endanger other people's lives as well as their own. No meeting or errand is worth doing that.
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mybigtruck
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Message Posted: Jul 14, 2014 11:31:09 PM

speeding itself does not cause accidents... incompetent drivers do...

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dontuknowOH
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Message Posted: Jul 14, 2014 10:43:15 PM

P.S. I'm a bit sleepy ,just substitute two injected words like>>> are making my errors plural. Long day HMmmm...... delete >> is is they are my errors. Thanks....
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dontuknowOH
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Message Posted: Jul 14, 2014 10:33:49 PM

If you have ever watched a "Rough neck Kid" play with youngsters toys, playing like slamming them into each other or other objects ,well the time interval isn't very long before the toys come part in pieces. I see speed as only one factor.

Yesterday I saw a tree limb break and then fall instantly all by its self
onto the ground, no wind no vibration no warning, simply break and fall in my yard. Not a dead limb and leaves either. No errors, harm, or logical reason. Fall like it had been cut, No! Break off!

One could say the rough speed is then destructive or that Kid is too big too play with those toys. Often there is no errors, Kid wants to do what
he wants to do, Rough meaning the speed force created by his energy.

Like wise a vehicle's speed energy/force when not at play but in a serious mode, skilled mode , tense driver' mode, then all is subject to some ones error, while in the mode of motion or not. Even vehicles error.

Choices by the driver to actually put your vehicle in a risky position no matter what it is called could be inviting a Human error, little or major, extra speed usually adds to that factor, and often reduces any solution for safety. Sometimes a New Hero comes to the light! on time....(unscathed)!
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Mikeyl
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Message Posted: Jul 14, 2014 6:52:42 PM

Yup...

While the speeder may be a good driver, the others on the road are the problem. It is unclear how they will react to a car speeding up behind them or passing them suddenly or not seeing them at all while making a lane change.

Going too slowly is just as big a problem, as well.
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krazkar
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Message Posted: Jul 14, 2014 12:05:48 AM

Some people can handle higher speeds than others.

Speed limits are too low.
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HotRod10
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Message Posted: Jul 13, 2014 11:53:27 PM

Bill, you've got it completely backwards. It may make sense to you, but it's not the reality. Actually, speed differential is the biggest cause of accidents. Talk to any traffic engineer and they'll tell you roadways where everyone is going the same speed are the safest.
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contiki
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Message Posted: Jun 14, 2014 7:49:49 AM

Speed kills..................
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twt
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Message Posted: Jun 14, 2014 4:27:50 AM

Higher speed, reduces your reaction time. DUH
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Jmccommon
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Message Posted: Jun 13, 2014 11:24:47 PM

I believe speeding can cause accidents and I also believe that driving too slowly can cause accidents. What do most consider speeding though? I don't really consider someone as speeding until they are nearing 10 mph over the speed limit. I have seen more accidents happen when there is a person going too slow and the person behind them is not paying attention that they are going so slow.
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MertieMan
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Message Posted: Jun 13, 2014 8:48:43 AM

Inattention causes most accidents. Don't blame it on road conditions like the TV stations do.
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mnrick041
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Message Posted: Jun 11, 2014 9:29:22 PM

In some circumstances it can increase your risk of having a accident and will also increase the severity of the accident.
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Houckster
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Message Posted: Jun 11, 2014 5:58:11 PM

The faster the speed the faster one's reactions must be to avoid unexpected dangers. BILL100 is definitely mistaken. Speeding causes accidents.
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dontuknowOH
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2014 3:46:45 AM

I agree; Close proximity with any amount of objects in motion or not is game for driver or nature's error. Extra speed causes extra tension to the Humans brain, that can be a set-up for error/failure, speed makes it more tense. Errors seem much harder to stop or recover from as the time interval is reduced to do so.

Remember the Childhood thing of running barefoot >> A Stubbed Toe Event << and the words "Jimmy quit running so fast" "where are your shoes" The Stop it, rather getting stopped or creating distance to relieve adult mind tension is often better than an ERROR to late out of control.

I worked really hard on teaching my children about Impact forces both, horizontal/vertical Impact(stopping all objects)small/large when they were at that young impressionable age to want to learn about The "Y's" Dad?? WUY?.... this Y that....? Adults are much harder to train about ways to save fuel, I think the Y Y Y Y adult gene loses it's #9 lifes. LOL
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dave43
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Message Posted: Jun 9, 2014 3:26:35 AM

yes
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sanderstheparro
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Message Posted: Jun 8, 2014 9:41:44 AM

Aggressive driving and stupidity are the root causes of accidents. Speeding is just a symptom.

[Edited by: sanderstheparro at 6/8/2014 9:43:23 AM EST]
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hyeglenn
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Message Posted: Jun 8, 2014 9:31:19 AM

YES.
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contiki
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Message Posted: Jun 8, 2014 8:26:18 AM

THIS THREAD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FUEL ECONOMY.

THREAD CLOSED!

tony1679, who made you in charge of anything................

Yes speeding causes accidents and death..................

Yes the thread has to do with fuel economy....

Speeding will give you less miles per tank of gasoline..........



[Edited by: contiki at 6/8/2014 8:30:05 AM EST]
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tony1679
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Message Posted: Jun 8, 2014 4:34:34 AM

THIS THREAD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FUEL ECONOMY.

THREAD CLOSED!
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pghbill
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Message Posted: Jun 8, 2014 12:35:11 AM

no
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MertieMan
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Message Posted: Jun 8, 2014 12:20:38 AM

Careless and inattentive driving cause about 95 percent of all accidents.
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dontuknowOH
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Message Posted: Jun 7, 2014 9:29:31 PM

What news videos I've seen displayed equals >> that the faster the crash scene vehicle is going the better the penetration through a home, crowd, building, or structure, seems persons can't always get to safety when the speed is excessive(vehicle speed)that is.

Driver often runs away speedily and leaves the answers ? ? ? Probably just parking their vehicle real time intentions so they could exercise by a sudden highlighted Idea to start walking... Nice weather an all! Maybe save some fuel.....
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contiki
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Message Posted: Jun 7, 2014 8:30:54 AM

Speeding causes accidents for sure...........speed kills....

Each night the news is full of accidents where speed was the cause.....

Speed kills....proof actor Paul Walker was killed by speed....nothing more.......if they were not speeding he would still be alive today......
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twt
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Message Posted: Jun 7, 2014 3:47:44 AM

What a misinformed idiot.
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krazkar
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Message Posted: Jun 6, 2014 10:24:54 PM

No! But for some, they can be dangerous at any speed. Speed limits are way too low anyway.
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magpie2013
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Message Posted: Jun 6, 2014 11:00:05 AM

I watch a young guy drive down the bus lane at a high rate of speed and guess what? The moron hit a parked van for lawn care service. He had to be going 90 or better in a big hurry and than splat front hood folded up like an accordion. Speed does kill, less reaction time and less control of the vehicle.
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contiki
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Message Posted: Jun 6, 2014 6:56:30 AM

Speeds kills.............for sure...........
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Boyrr
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Message Posted: Jun 5, 2014 4:59:12 PM

Speed kills... (So do Corvairs)
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contiki
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Message Posted: Jun 5, 2014 7:17:04 AM

Speed kills................
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poetdog73
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Message Posted: Jun 4, 2014 10:14:25 AM

drive safe!!!!!!!
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Vin63
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Message Posted: Jun 4, 2014 9:53:09 AM

Drivers cause accidents.
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