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Bill100
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Message Posted: Dec 19, 2013 8:12:07 AM



I adamantly take the view that differences in speed actually reduce accidents. Admittedly, increased speed increases the severity of an accident, in the event an accident actually transpires. And they do increase the chances of an accident to some degree due to reduced reaction time of both drivers.

But, to a very large extent, increased speed decreases the odds of the accident ever happening in the first place because time spent in proximity with any other given object is greatly reduced. Accidents actually happen because 2 objects try to occupy the same space at the same time. Increased speed differences actually lessen the time other vehicles are in your proximity and represent a danger to you. I am much more scared by a driver a mere 3 feet away from me on my left side travelling at 65 mph when I am travelling 64 mph. Might that person sneeze? Might their kid do something unexpected? Is he or she on the phone? Drinking or spilling hot coffee? or Alcohol? Is there a fly in their car they may try to swat? I do not know what circumstances may happen in their vehicle. I can only control what I am doing.

I do not suggest people drive 85-90 mph or more when most people are driving 70 mph. But if one driver wishes to pass another vehicle, that driver should increase his or her speed to 5-10 mph faster than the vehicle they intend to pass. Or just don't pass. Get off cruise control for a minute if necessary. They will not get a ticket for speeding and might actually get thanked (for keeping things safer) by both the police and by other drivers who are not being blocked and controlled by others. They can actually reduce road rage.

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ShortyT2014
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2015 1:01:06 PM

Bill100 - your concept only works if people stay in the righthand lane except to pass. That doesn't happen around here.
hoopitup2000
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2015 6:12:32 AM

Doesn't help . . . . .
dontuknowOH
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2015 5:56:18 AM

Speeding to Me is a strain on the vehicle's energy source, and My body's 5 senses, and whomever I might come into contact with while driving. I learned that principal the first time I ever bumped my head, sprained an ankle, received a splinter, like OUTCH! ETC. >>> Zipper down, sneezed, and many more, ETC.

Luck is like a fast flying bird hitting Our sliding patio door, then breaking its neck(thump), big thump! Still when driving, One skilled driver somewhat can make choices, but can't only control just a very few of the activities going on and taking place on this planet, (private space) example......

Skill to Me, is to trying to (pressing the known elements), that one's senses perceive, Nice but often not adequate against the unknown..... = RISK! sometimes = Sorry! I have problems keeping head hairs off my clothes EVEN!.... HAGDay! Even Skilled Hairs! Ha......

carinthuist
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2015 11:29:43 AM

yes
badbobKY
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2015 10:04:26 AM

yes
Hemond
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2015 9:36:05 AM

::::If you drive always faster than others but have never got accident, it doesn't mean you are skilled driver. You may be very lucky or drivers around you are very well skilled.::::


I disagree. If a person has a history of no accidents and no moving violations, it most definitely means they are a good driver. This is hard evidence. Luck has nothing to do with it. There is no such thing as luck. You may as well believe in the tooth fairy.

When it comes to driving, not having negative encounters proves you are doing something right. ANd yes that includes those drivers who constantly sail way above the speed limit. Nothing to do with any other driver. Its 100% due to the skill of the driver who doesn't get into accidents.


[Edited by: Hemond at 2/26/2015 9:36:52 AM EST]
HideMKE
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Message Posted: Feb 26, 2015 9:10:00 AM

Not so simple. If everyone go at same speed, speeding may not cause accident. If you are speeding but others are not, your speed may cause accident unless others pay attention to you.
If you drive always faster than others but have never got accident, it doesn't mean you are skilled driver. You may be very lucky or drivers around you are very well skilled.
Hemond
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Message Posted: Feb 19, 2015 12:14:36 AM

QUOTE :::::The phrase >>>> "One never knows What The hell that other driver is going to do NEXT"! X 10 OFTEN! = crap I use My windshield every day to avoid those crappy conditions, often mirrors help..... :::


Agree. All you gotta do is not tailgate. The other driver can flip over and burst into flame without affecting you one bit.

A huge amount of your time should be spent looking in the mirrors. That is where surprise trouble comes from.

Never pass at exit ramps, never get boxed in, always be on high alert as you pass someone for that is the time they will move into your lane.

Of course the latest scourge is cell/texting drivers. These are the true menaces and should be arrested. I'd rather have drunks than texters on the highway with me. At least 1/2 of drivers are texting around you. But they are easy to spot. If they are going 40 on the interstate while straddling 2 lanes, its pretty obvious. Where are the cops?
Mininana
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2015 10:54:13 PM

travelling considerably faster than those around you of course causes accidents... you can throw all the math you want at it, but it's all aobut reflexes, and you should be on high alert at all speeds... good discussion, though, but you're all overthinking it... just run the ball
dontuknowOH
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2015 8:11:15 PM

Speeding is somewhat a loose term type action. I can relate to excessive vehicle speed above the limits when entering an intersection, with signal lights as traffic control are used.

Speed above the posted limits cause the set time intervals of yellow, red, and green on delay in the other direction to be non satisfactory. My opinion is that red light runners are simply speeding, above the limits before approaching the normal timed braking area in distance should the signal go for/to red.

Highway travel is a bit different, usually the ahead vehicle/vehicles only need to make a slight error/distraction, followers are affected often compounded by their approaching speed, by reduced reaction time lost, along with the physics of motion (varies) with each circumstance/driver's choice. AIsi! TOO ClOSE is a following factor.... like close crap....!

The phrase >>>> "One never knows What The hell that other driver is going to do NEXT"! X 10 OFTEN! = crap I use My windshield every day to avoid those crappy conditions, often mirrors help..... Stay Safe!!!
Hemond
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2015 7:42:24 PM

Nonsense. I sail along at 80, to 90 mph 100% of the time and have never even had a close call. Never even an incident. On those rare occasions where the traffic is doing 100mph, I tuck right in with them.

Never a ticket either.

The only thing I do is pay attention. I'm on high alert when driving. That's why I don't get speeding tickets either.

I'm comfortable and relaxed at 80mph. That is a natural speed for most modern cars and interstates today.
drgeeforce
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2015 6:19:21 PM

It's too obvious that a speed differential is the reason for most high speed accidents and that most drivers lack the attention for safe driving during any speed. If you watch NASCAR they are all traveling over 100 mph. it's only when someone slows down does it become dangerous. Granted most drivers on the road now are borderline ADHD and most are on the phone anyways talking or texting. What's worse is that there are quite a number of individuals who feel they have the right to drive whatever speed they wish, especially in the far left lane. Will the troopers or highway patrol ever cite these dangerous drivers? Never. Their claim to enforce the safety of the road is laughable, because they main concern is to generate revenue.
jameskel
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Message Posted: Feb 18, 2015 5:45:59 PM

I would pose the argument that the DRIVERS who insist on speeding cause the accidents (not the speed itself).

They are just bad drivers as evidenced by their inability to follow simply rules of the road, especially when around other people.
herbiepopnecker
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Message Posted: Oct 29, 2014 10:48:13 PM

sure does by gum! Why I see these maniacs goin 20 sometimes 30 miles an hour right through town
krazkar
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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2014 11:09:11 PM

raise the speed limits and I will speed less!

sh1361
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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2014 8:30:18 PM

Inattention causes accidents
twt
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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2014 7:06:25 AM

Of course, reducing reaction time will cause more accidents. DUH DUH
Wanda127
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Message Posted: Oct 28, 2014 12:56:51 AM

Yes, if it doesn't cause the accident it will make it where you cannot avoid an accident because of the lack of control you have at high speeds.
HotRod10
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Message Posted: Oct 27, 2014 7:58:02 PM

I'd say no; speeding per se does not cause accidents. The research is fairly convincing that on busy roadways it's speed differential that is the dominant factor in the frequency of multiple-vehicle accidents. The safest roadways are those where everyone is driving the same speed. Where speed limits are set artificially low (compared to the design speed) most people will speed, but a few will stick to the posted limit, making it more dangerous for everyone, especially themselves.
GLM4205
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Message Posted: Oct 27, 2014 5:40:26 PM

yes
krazkar
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Message Posted: Oct 26, 2014 10:18:00 PM

'speeding' is a loaded word. For some, the speed limits are too high. Some they are too low. Some are driving too fast for conditions and the may not be 'speeding'. Some drive too fast for their own abilities, yet they may still not be 'speeding'.
I have been on the Autobahn, where the difference in speeds can be huge. I don't care if you want to drive fast. I will get out of your way if I can.
SGLuz
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Message Posted: Oct 26, 2014 7:30:21 PM

Yes
jimmy544
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 6:26:06 PM

A qualified yes. Go look at the Russian dash cam compilations on youtube and you will see some really out of control driving about half that seem to be going way too fast for conditions. For example 50 mph on a deserted highway during the day on dry good road is not hazardous but make it ice coated and you have a recipe for disaster.
ultimate
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 5:20:46 PM

yes
jay93LA
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 8:19:23 AM

doesn't help
poetdog73
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 2:04:02 AM

just the driver!
pghbill
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 12:49:13 AM

no! idiots cause accidents!
krazkar
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Message Posted: Oct 24, 2014 12:28:50 AM

no
dsegrist
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2014 10:54:41 AM

Pay attention when we drive.
We need to "look beyond our hood ornament".
Distractions and lack of attention is what causes accidents; not speeding.
Vin63
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Message Posted: Oct 23, 2014 9:54:00 AM

The last time I checked, people operate cars.
contiki
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Message Posted: Oct 17, 2014 6:56:06 AM

Yes in most cases......
hoopitup2000
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Message Posted: Oct 17, 2014 6:29:29 AM

IMO, most who speed are low skill drivers, so I would say yes to the question.
badbobKY
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Message Posted: Oct 17, 2014 5:51:28 AM

yes
cwwilliams1978
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Message Posted: Oct 16, 2014 10:35:37 PM

No
Houckster
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Message Posted: Oct 16, 2014 9:15:18 PM

PILOTDLH writes: Speeding itself doesn't cause accidents, but it makes the accidents worse. Distractions are the biggest cause.
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Speeding makes everything more critical. While inattention does contribute to accidents, so do other things like increased braking distances required, there's less time to to think of and implement an avoidance behavior.

Many people on the road who are speeding are driving beyond their capabilities but not beyond the stupidity.

Speeding kills and there's no justifying it.
MertieMan
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Message Posted: Oct 16, 2014 10:46:12 AM

And as I have previously stated, inattention on someone's part, whether it be speeding or a distraction is the cause of 98 percent of accidents, the other two percent can be caused by ice. Also I get so sick of news reporters blaming weather related conditions for a majority of accidents. If it is raining or inclimate weather, then simply slow down.
twt
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Message Posted: Oct 16, 2014 8:15:41 AM

Higher speed, equals less time to react
dontuknowOH
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Message Posted: Oct 16, 2014 8:09:08 AM

I believe that extra speed abilities seldom rescues a person/vehicle from a bad happening, but can, a very (small percentage) noted.

Distractions are like happenings(good/bad) they can be sudden sometimes too fast for reaction abilities.

Vehicles today have shorter wheelbases, quick reactive steering, still blind spots, more elite controls dash wise to deal with(function buttons).

Anyone that drives a small vehicle knows that it only takes a very small movement of the steering wheel to point their vehicle into a very different path direction, or off the roadway, higher speed enhances that maneuver, intended or not.

Any errors, Human/vehicle errors or not are always a possibility. Like spilling food/drink on ones clothes, dropping things, clumsy ability moods, turn signal left on, windshield fogging up, bad chuckhole hit not dodged, ETC....

Then there are some Drivers that are invincible to any of this mess mentioned......ETC. and more................... I forgot to, not how to...

"shave" this morning! Dang shoe came untied! Probably walking too slow..... saving fuel, yes! Last night I noticed that Crickets stopped their chatter, while leaving/admitting some gas, during exiting our garage. Big Error, Sorry! I'll walk faster next time.

Ask the bug on your grill that couldn't get out of the way fast enough, like ZAP! Stay Happy avoid SKun...s !!!
nickless
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Message Posted: Oct 16, 2014 12:40:00 AM

No.. Just the driver.
rick_evans
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2014 8:18:41 AM

Yes
1. By increasing braking distance
2. By increasing the chance you will skid and lose control when steering.
3. By reducing reaction time of even the most attentive driver when a doe
darts onto the highway followed by a horny male deer.

cujo1977
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2014 6:15:33 AM

N
pilotdlh
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Message Posted: Oct 12, 2014 12:28:48 AM

Speeding itself doesn't cause accidents, but it makes the accidents worse.
Distractions are the biggest cause.
proudvet1
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2014 9:17:24 PM

yes
dontuknowOH
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2014 8:33:29 AM

Well I must say that I know just what Bill100 is referring to. I have experienced Black Ice conditions for my first time a few years ago.

Their were a group of 5-7 vehicles closing on my vehicle in both lanes behind me while(on cruise @60MPH. It had been a evening with slight drizzle and a bit misty at temps near 40* F, then a drop off to 38* F .

The group of vehicles claimed my traveling space and then passed in very close formation by 3-6 mph faster, but as they switched lanes for new positions ahead of me, all of that group hit a stretch of B-Ice.

Well I had a perfect view of the terrible maneuvers of lost control going on just ahead of Me. No vehicle contact, but very close, actually it looked like everyone that passed my vehicle was hydroplaning.

I dropped cruise immediately, shifted to neutral, almost hit the brake, the distance kept me from applying the reaction of doing so. I keep stability, then felt the power steering go Bonkers Free on resistance for seconds, then back to normal!

Only two vehicles were/had mud/grass packed undercarriage and off to each side of the roadway, and only jolt scared/dirty vehicles.

Say what you want but Distance saved My Butt, that Shopping evening leaving the bigger city within the zoned speed limits also. The other group/pack were just lucky with a jolt/mud experience related to that Happening (weather freak)ETC. Lessons/no injuries..... Valuable X 100!!
mrgots2000
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Message Posted: Aug 22, 2014 3:17:47 PM

I don't know what the statistics are, but I'd much rather be in a low speed accident than a high speed accident. Unless I drive my self off a cliff, then I'd rather be in a high speed accident so I don't tumble all the way down the side of the mountain, let it be just one impact at the bottom.
Awing1
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Message Posted: Aug 22, 2014 10:41:51 AM

Yes for high speeding, but little speeding in allowance is ok.
Hesitation would cause more accidents than speeding.
Slow driving causes accident, too. I remembered that a old lady was coming out from the branch road and hit the side of my car. She was coming out so slow with a wrong judgement.
jay93LA
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Message Posted: Aug 22, 2014 10:29:56 AM

its a problem because you are always interacting with other cars
RealtorJeff
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Message Posted: Aug 22, 2014 10:18:24 AM

Yes, less time for inexperienced drivers to react
Houckster
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Message Posted: Aug 22, 2014 9:55:13 AM

It would be hard to find a more silly comment than what we have from BILL100.

Wise drivers stay close to the speed limits and as far away from other cars as possible.
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Message Posted: Aug 21, 2014 9:02:45 AM

yes
drivebye
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Message Posted: Aug 21, 2014 2:02:10 AM

Technically, speeding itself doesn't cause accidents; however, a speeding driver [who is unable to safely control the vehicle] may cause accidents.

[Edited by: drivebye at 8/21/2014 2:04:47 AM EST]
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