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Bill100

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Message Posted: Dec 19, 2013 8:12:07 AM



I adamantly take the view that differences in speed actually reduce accidents. Admittedly, increased speed increases the severity of an accident, in the event an accident actually transpires. And they do increase the chances of an accident to some degree due to reduced reaction time of both drivers.

But, to a very large extent, increased speed decreases the odds of the accident ever happening in the first place because time spent in proximity with any other given object is greatly reduced. Accidents actually happen because 2 objects try to occupy the same space at the same time. Increased speed differences actually lessen the time other vehicles are in your proximity and represent a danger to you. I am much more scared by a driver a mere 3 feet away from me on my left side travelling at 65 mph when I am travelling 64 mph. Might that person sneeze? Might their kid do something unexpected? Is he or she on the phone? Drinking or spilling hot coffee? or Alcohol? Is there a fly in their car they may try to swat? I do not know what circumstances may happen in their vehicle. I can only control what I am doing.

I do not suggest people drive 85-90 mph or more when most people are driving 70 mph. But if one driver wishes to pass another vehicle, that driver should increase his or her speed to 5-10 mph faster than the vehicle they intend to pass. Or just don't pass. Get off cruise control for a minute if necessary. They will not get a ticket for speeding and might actually get thanked (for keeping things safer) by both the police and by other drivers who are not being blocked and controlled by others. They can actually reduce road rage.

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dontuknowOH
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2014 8:33:29 AM

Well I must say that I know just what Bill100 is referring to. I have experienced Black Ice conditions for my first time a few years ago.

Their were a group of 5-7 vehicles closing on my vehicle in both lanes behind me while(on cruise @60MPH. It had been a evening with slight drizzle and a bit misty at temps near 40* F, then a drop off to 38* F .

The group of vehicles claimed my traveling space and then passed in very close formation by 3-6 mph faster, but as they switched lanes for new positions ahead of me, all of that group hit a stretch of B-Ice.

Well I had a perfect view of the terrible maneuvers of lost control going on just ahead of Me. No vehicle contact, but very close, actually it looked like everyone that passed my vehicle was hydroplaning.

I dropped cruise immediately, shifted to neutral, almost hit the brake, the distance kept me from applying the reaction of doing so. I keep stability, then felt the power steering go Bonkers Free on resistance for seconds, then back to normal!

Only two vehicles were/had mud/grass packed undercarriage and off to each side of the roadway, and only jolt scared/dirty vehicles.

Say what you want but Distance saved My Butt, that Shopping evening leaving the bigger city within the zoned speed limits also. The other group/pack were just lucky with a jolt/mud experience related to that Happening (weather freak)ETC. Lessons/no injuries..... Valuable X 100!!
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mrgots2000
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Message Posted: Aug 22, 2014 3:17:47 PM

I don't know what the statistics are, but I'd much rather be in a low speed accident than a high speed accident. Unless I drive my self off a cliff, then I'd rather be in a high speed accident so I don't tumble all the way down the side of the mountain, let it be just one impact at the bottom.
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Awing1
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Message Posted: Aug 22, 2014 10:41:51 AM

Yes for high speeding, but little speeding in allowance is ok.
Hesitation would cause more accidents than speeding.
Slow driving causes accident, too. I remembered that a old lady was coming out from the branch road and hit the side of my car. She was coming out so slow with a wrong judgement.
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jay93LA
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Message Posted: Aug 22, 2014 10:29:56 AM

its a problem because you are always interacting with other cars
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RealtorJeff
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Message Posted: Aug 22, 2014 10:18:24 AM

Yes, less time for inexperienced drivers to react
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Houckster
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Message Posted: Aug 22, 2014 9:55:13 AM

It would be hard to find a more silly comment than what we have from BILL100.

Wise drivers stay close to the speed limits and as far away from other cars as possible.
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redfish67
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Message Posted: Aug 21, 2014 9:02:45 AM

yes
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drivebye
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Message Posted: Aug 21, 2014 2:02:10 AM

Technically, speeding itself doesn't cause accidents; however, a speeding driver [who is unable to safely control the vehicle] may cause accidents.

[Edited by: drivebye at 8/21/2014 2:04:47 AM EST]
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Boyrr
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2014 9:17:09 AM

if your drivers aren't trained, yes
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hoopitup2000
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Message Posted: Aug 14, 2014 3:11:37 PM

It doesn't help!!
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luvmyrv
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Message Posted: Aug 14, 2014 2:43:07 PM

Do ducks fly?
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dontuknowOH
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Message Posted: Aug 14, 2014 9:21:31 AM

So much for theories; It seems most Drivers agree that there are a certain percentage of idiots on the roadways where ever!/? Higher speed limits should make those percentages become even more refined in their actions, and scattered anywhere anytime. More refined... meaning eager for Risks!

Some say higher speeds keep certain drivers more alert, and on top of their driving skills on any roadway, I always think I Hope they are right, My vehicles don't have an idiot detector option. Well it seems that over time the test will prove new percentages to deal with.
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cv
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Message Posted: Aug 14, 2014 6:36:33 AM

Yes, I think it does.
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krazkar
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Message Posted: Aug 14, 2014 12:42:12 AM

Raise the speed limits and I may not 'speed' as often. Then i would be safe!
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PhilnTX
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2014 1:34:08 PM

I'll say distracted driving causes accidents....
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gvan
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2014 9:41:17 AM

The faster someone drives the narrower the field of vision so the higher chance of an accident.
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dontuknowOH
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2014 7:41:11 AM

If your daily effort clock makes you running late and then you plan to catch up to your planned schedule when driving, the odds are sometimes that extra speed will cause problems.

You may not actually cause an accident, but daily encounters and speed combined causes tension and that tension may not be only yours but others that are effected by your driving/actions.

Time deadlines cause tension, The warm-up period to these D-Lines then works against the clock ticking away. Days like this, you then need more prep so extra speed isn't needed for catch-up/risks. My take.....

Speed is a variable with pluses or minuses for anyone, single factor. HMmm!
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SGLuz
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Message Posted: Aug 10, 2014 12:17:54 PM

After 33 years in law enforcement, I would have to say Yes.
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forresj
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Message Posted: Aug 10, 2014 9:47:29 AM

Well lets look at it this way. If I'm driving and slowing down because the road ahead is merging from 3 to 2 lanes due to road construction. The person behind me is talking on the phone or texting. At what speed would be more devastating if an accident would to occur?

Driving 30 mph or 60?

[Edited by: forresj at 8/10/2014 9:47:48 AM EST]
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contiki
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Message Posted: Aug 10, 2014 8:23:12 AM

Speed can kill.................
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dontuknowOH
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2014 9:05:44 PM

It just might if you would set the Cruise Control at 140 MPH.
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poetdog73
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2014 12:41:43 PM

faster mph goes, gas mph goes down......
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Mikeyl
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2014 10:44:50 AM

Speed can't CAUSE accidents, but it is widely recognized as a contributing factor in them.
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dontuknowOH
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2014 9:21:52 AM

I think the whole impact of this topic is referring to; If a driver/drivers decide to drive above the limits rather passing others which may not be in a hurry and then those > trying to get better mileage also, including being safe, zoomer's wants > arriving sooner, and at the same time not harassing anyone, deciding by Their same Awareness of using more fuel to do so.

The other thought is the Slower Drivers, driving at or near zoned limits, that Driver is or often influenced by the slower passing interval in the passing lanes, sometimes as a close group of many more with often the one up front holding up the followers(left lane vehicles close grouped) all wanting to pass the lead left poky.

Happens all the time, Left Lane cruiser Driving 2 miles per hour faster but wants to pass slower right lane conservers running the limit or 5-7 above gently cruising along at their "Sweet Spot" theory/savings Ha...

The other thought is that only if all the Zoomers would cut their pace back to the 5-7 MPH + Speed, then their vehicles would come closer to meeting what most other Drivers have found to be the "Sweet Spot" for a total average across this country's use of fuel with the possibly of lowering average fuel prices eventually for all users, and the excess speed would be less then reducing the accident risk, reducing driver tension, increasing the time interval to recover from any Drivers Error Risk.

I'm convinced there are at least three benefits to be had, only with Drivers trying to change or at least brush up on their goals concerning all driving habits! Fuel marketing is not very predictable being divided across/around the world, the choices Drivers make are too varied by lifestyles! Say What....?

Well I wish everyone would brush up on their goals, by being safer, more patient, try safer distance/get more better Mileage (possible).
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ZZZoop
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2014 7:34:28 AM

>>what does this have to do with Fuel Economy ?<<

When your car is being towed to the auto body shop to repair the damage from a speed-related accident, your fuel economy will be phenomenal.
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Glasman
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Message Posted: Aug 9, 2014 4:29:49 AM

what does this have to do with Fuel Economy ?
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OilerFan
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2014 7:23:11 AM

Speeding causes accidents for some people if the speed is higher than people's reaction time. Certainly speed has an affect on the severity of the accident.
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dontuknowOH
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Message Posted: Aug 6, 2014 10:28:02 AM

I always keep in mind where there is speed involved at doing anything, even the experts doing it plan to wear safety gear and still take precaution for errors/equipment failure. The EMERGENCY Crews on standby often verify that as somewhat dangerous activity, cautions signs can't talk, maybe do as programmed. All 5 of ones personal best senses sometimes aren't enough to counter errors/failures of matter under stress activities or naught.

For example; the simple is >> Ever had a bird poop on you while asleep or napping anywhere while totally relaxed? Then if not there are thousands of other episodes waiting call reality. Reality for the beginner... Fly check! (lower device) "OOPS" That little lever locks pointing down(folded down)! Guys.....
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redfish67
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Message Posted: Aug 5, 2014 10:15:08 AM

yup
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Ashelm
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Message Posted: Aug 5, 2014 8:26:26 AM

It could, due to decreased reaction time in case something does happen. Sure, you could be driving safely. But what about that other cars, where the driver ignores a red light and attempts to speed through the intersection? Or the person texting on their phone and didn't see your car until they hit you?

Physics also plays a role in this. The faster you're going, the more energy you're going to have when you hit something. At a slower speed, while your car will still likely get damaged, you should be okay if you have your seatbelts on. But if someone hits you while they're going 75 mph, it's going to hurt a lot, regardless of the vehicle you're in.
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dontuknowOH
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Message Posted: Aug 5, 2014 6:56:53 AM

One thing for sure, if you drive faster, the time interval involved is then reduced as you speed along, so the waste of dragging that waste usage over a longer interval, ooooooooover actual engine run time is saved by being(shortened).

Now that makes sense for some Drivers if they call speeding as finding their vehicle's Sweet Spot. Well the rest still stick to their theory as faster is saving time, but how does one do that? Planning ahead gains a jump on time deadlines, but I find a snap of my fingers wastes time, even thinking about two snaps or more then that time has gone away.

Same for wasting gas each time you touch the brake pedal or slow by releasing the go pedal, knowing before hand you will make a resume....thingee.... Ouch! there's a Red Light ! ! ! three minutes >...<! Gone Idling.... Auh Awh Ha it's my gas and paid for I think.....!
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twt
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Message Posted: Aug 5, 2014 4:07:09 AM

Idiots, cause accidents. Nuff said.
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eyegotgas2
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Message Posted: Aug 5, 2014 3:24:38 AM

It can cause an accident
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ggg452
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Message Posted: Aug 4, 2014 8:48:23 AM

yup...it does.
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WES03
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Message Posted: Aug 4, 2014 8:35:37 AM

It makes them worse.
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badbobKY
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2014 12:24:06 PM

no
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dontuknowOH
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Message Posted: Jul 30, 2014 5:27:02 AM

I must agree with Bill100 I have never had a problem with another driver approaching and then passing on a four lane and then continuing on ahead out of sight. Same for a two lane if the marked pavement lines are used correct.

Two lanes can be just a big dangerous event when passers are over in the opposite traffic lane taking chances, guessing a lot to make their move, depending entirely on vehicle performance, and assuming your speed is at the posted limits(unknown) for sure. Speed then can be good/bad for those involved even a good long clean rescue ditch is

(handy)! Speed could be then a motive but HURRY would be a better word.

Close proximity also cuts away reaction time for any recovering of anyone's slight ERROR, Say what! Nobody errors now do they?..... I must ask "What Planet are you on anyway"? Just asking, that info comes in handy.
Distance apart from each vehicle, the Correct distance (proximity can be a saving event I have no doubts, extends the time factor for any recovery. A big driving tension relief also!

Remember that there is always a spot in a wrecking-yard for anyone's vehicle, or rather they will make extra room. Please Watch the Hurry Stuff!
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bikergirlss
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Message Posted: Jul 27, 2014 6:11:14 PM

mostly inattention causing accidents
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MertieMan
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Message Posted: Jul 25, 2014 4:44:58 AM

The main cause of 98 percent of all accidents is in attention .
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bacvain
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2014 3:25:19 PM

speeding dangerously causes accident. If in traffic, its dangerous. If the cost is clear, its different.

I agree that when someone is passing you on the left lane, they should pass and not cruise. that's not a cruising lane. Too much of that in Ontario. Pass and move back to center lane or right lane.
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dontuknowOH
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2014 2:04:46 PM

I just don't see where any person can always hold their sanity, intellect or actions responsible to prevent any accident from happening. Whether it's a wrench slipping off a bolt, crane hook fracturing at the neck or tree limb giving way to crush something or nothing.

Accidents happen whether a failure is present or not, Twenty minutes ago I helped a motorist get his Fish dinner home when his batter failed to start his vehicle, Thankfully He was, and later He will need a battery, I did about two weeks ago, no accident just a battery's life ended 7.5 years, not bad I'm happy to get a new one while the weather fine...... It's Done!

My response/ability seen clearly.....
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Vin63
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2014 9:49:51 AM

This is news to me. I always believed people caused accidents. I guess it's another thing people can absolve themselves of responsibility.
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dontuknowOH
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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2014 9:37:50 AM

The major thing I always keep in mind is of all the things in life I have ever owned, none were designed perfect, they sometimes failed in some way or other.

Most always they came with a form of a warranty, to build my confidence at purchase time, now extended warranty. So that kind of tells Me something, whispers Me something, and I often get that Hint, and keep it in mind where speed is involved, My speed of course, I can't control the other's or their warranties. Guessing has merit but not a lot....

I've learned that Guessing has a lot of Buts attached to it But, But, But, But, maybe more....
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GLM4205
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Message Posted: Jul 17, 2014 5:42:58 AM

"Speeding is especially dangerous when the speed differential is high"

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dontuknowOH
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2014 9:54:57 PM

Only when there becomes a combination of conditions of intense activity>>> idiot/speed/vehicle/nonsense/influence/attitude/potent whatever... More....
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MudNutZ
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2014 1:28:36 PM

yes
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2014 11:20:52 AM

yes
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badbobKY
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2014 8:22:09 AM

yes
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poetdog73
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2014 12:47:44 AM

yes but texting is catching up!
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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2014 12:29:53 AM

no
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