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karz3

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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2013 2:50:46 AM

Use diesel car and cummins dodge truck. But shame the price difference cuts into further serious merits to it.
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OilerFan
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Message Posted: Mar 13, 2014 3:36:00 AM

With the mileage of diesel, even with the price difference, it's a better deal.
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drgeeforce
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Message Posted: Mar 12, 2014 7:23:12 PM

Volkswagen has the Amarok TDI mid-sized pickup. The closest shipment to the US is in Mexico.
http://www.autoweek.com/article/20140110/carnews01/140109965
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buickentury
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Message Posted: Mar 11, 2014 8:34:19 PM

Want to. Can't wait till the new Chevy Colorado Diesel comes out!
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GrumpyCat
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2014 4:04:08 PM

"there's only one bio diesel station in the El Paso/Las Cruces area hardly worth the drive to fill up for those with diesel"

The problem with biodiesel is that its not diesel. Modern diesels are far too delicate as to their expected diet to run off most anything the way diesels of 10 or 15 years ago could.

At best modern diesels can tolerate B20, most are B5.
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skaboss79
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2014 12:52:19 PM

there's only one bio diesel station in the El Paso/Las Cruces area hardly worth the drive to fill up for those with diesel
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bluenvoy
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2014 8:42:33 AM

A long time ago I did. It was good. But at that time diesel fuel was the same price as regular gas.
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dassfg
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2014 8:16:58 AM

Also have a Jetta TDi - 2012. My second TDi -- the mpg is so high (47 hwy) the price differential is not relevant.
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dieselpower2014
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Message Posted: Mar 10, 2014 1:16:12 AM

I drive a 2013 VW Jetta diesel. torque is high in this car. avg about 43 mpg. It will eat a hill up. It don't slow down for any hills. Wished I had bought one earlier but I never saw the advantage of driving one until now. I might not ever go back to another gasser.
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JueceFlavour
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2014 2:28:18 AM

2k+ miles on single tank of fuel ( 35 gal, non hybrid) (Cummins)'07 Dodge Ram 2500 ST Quad Cab 2wd, short bed (Cummins)

Start date: May 3, 2013
End date: Jun 27, 2013
Distance: 2,009.6 miles
Fuel used: 35.000 gallons
Total time (key-on): 79 hours, 29 minutes
Total time (engine-on): 18 hours, 32 minutes
Average ambient temperature: 70.2 deg F
Average in-cab mileage display: 59.38 mpg
Actual measured mileage: 57.42 mpg
Calculated average speed (from key on time): 25.3 mph

Vehicle mods:
Removed diesel particulate filter (DPF) (EPA sh!t)
Removed diesel oxidation catalyst (DOC)(EPA sh!t)
Removed NOx adsorber(EPA sh!t)
Removed EGR system(EPA sh!t)
Removed intake throttle plate(EPA sh!t)
Re-routed CCV vent to atmosphere(EPA sh!t)
Smarty Jr tuner: fuel economy tune, most advanced timing
Upper grille block
Lower grille block
Tires at 75 psi (max sidewall is 80 psi)
Using block heater to pre-warm
Dual 150W oil pan heaters
Tonneau cover
Engine oil: Amsoil Series 3000 Synthetic 5W-30 HDD
Differential oil: Amsoil Severe Gear Synthetic Extreme Pressure Gear Lube 75W-90
Engine blanket
Homemade ram cold air intake
-Change to synthetic transmission fluid
-Front belly pan
-Engine compartment insulation
-Fog lamp hole block
-Kill switch
-Corrected odometer
-Disconnected intake grid heater(EPA sh!t)
-Various shifting/driving mods
-Schaeffer's Diesel Treat 20
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drgeeforce
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Message Posted: Mar 5, 2014 6:15:03 PM

The merits of diesel engines are shown in high-mileage driving. In stop-go,short distance, city driving, the Electric vehicles take the prize. In the mid range, Hybrids win. In long distance, especially towing, diesels always win. So it depends on what kind of driving you perform a majority of the time.
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ynpmoose
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Message Posted: Mar 4, 2014 2:36:03 PM

I have a 6.0L diesel Excursion. 15MPG winter and 17MPG summer. Not too shabby for a nearly 8000 pound truck that can tow 11000 pounds. Probably gets close to double the MPG of it's V10 counterpart.



[Edited by: ynpmoose at 3/4/2014 2:36:54 PM EST]
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FXSpringer01
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Message Posted: Feb 20, 2014 8:38:19 AM

Jetta TDI 41.4 MPG
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RRBC
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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2014 3:59:15 PM

Not yet
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88_SC_Fan
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 10:48:33 PM

Never so far, but the new Frontier Diesel looks nice. I would have to look at the cost of the higher fuel efficiency (est at 35% better) and the cost of diesel and repairs.

Then again, if the towing is high enough then maybe I will convert.
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Vin63
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 9:35:47 AM

TDI and Duramax for daily drivers.
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WEPSMAN
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 8:59:22 AM

I love my diesel truck. 2011 Silverado 2500 HD.
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GLM4205
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Message Posted: Feb 7, 2014 6:29:17 AM

No
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dieselpower2014
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2014 2:24:38 AM

A diesel engine has to be made stronger because of the higher compression that it takes to fire the fuel. Remember that a diesel has no spark plugs. It fires from the high compression. Diesel engines in the big rigs will last over a million miles if taken care of. How long would they last if they were not pulling tons of weight up and down hills.
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GrumpyCat
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2014 3:46:22 PM

"Jetta TDi mpg far exceeds any price difference. Also will go many many miles farther in its lifetime than a gas burner."

I disagree. Following manufacturer's maintenance specifications a gasoline VW will last exactly as long as a TDI (diesel) VW. Basically the doors will fall off before the engine fails. The seats will fall through the floorboard before the engine wears out. Headlights will be hanging by their wires before the engine wears out.
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dassfg
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Message Posted: Feb 4, 2014 8:38:52 AM

Jetta TDi mpg far exceeds any price difference. Also will go many many miles farther in its lifetime than a gas burner.
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szd55
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Message Posted: Feb 3, 2014 8:11:30 PM

I drive a VW diesel; like it for towing.
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GrumpyCat
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Message Posted: Dec 11, 2013 1:54:55 AM

"absolutely. They have come a long way. With today's technology (Blue-Tech) Diesel engines are cleaner than regular gas powered engines. Diesels also produce more power and therefore can use less fuel consumption for the same usage."

Wrong. Bluetec (note the spelling) only brings diesel to par with average gasoline engines. Bluetec requires 3 exhaust treatments, a Diesel Oxidizing Catalyst (DOC), a Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF), and a Selective Catalyst Reactor (SCR).

The DOC is oldest and simplest.

The DPF has to be burned out every 250 miles or so, consuming raw fuel that could be used for other things.

The SCR requires a urea solution, Diesel Exhaust Fluid (DEF, also known as AdBlue).

Diesel is said to produce less carbon emissions, but is dirty in every other measure.
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forresj
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Message Posted: Dec 10, 2013 9:37:08 AM

"....Diesel engines are cleaner than regular gas powered engines....

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"Really? Dang, dude but what's that black smoke coming out of the tailpipe of diesel vehicles? Fresh air?



[Edited by: forresj at 12/10/2013 9:36:56 AM EST]
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PassmyGas
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Message Posted: Dec 10, 2013 8:15:30 AM

absolutely. They have come a long way. With today's technology (Blue-Tech) Diesel engines are cleaner than regular gas powered engines. Diesels also produce more power and therefore can use less fuel consumption for the same usage.
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ny10
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Message Posted: Dec 7, 2013 11:42:13 AM

diesel might be better than gasoline as far as maintenance
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lyanMI
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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2013 1:21:40 PM

yeah you are rite Karz3, diesel is expensive
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forresj
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Message Posted: Dec 3, 2013 10:31:33 AM

It doesn't change the fact that Reagan agreed and signed it into law. He could've vetoed it. But he didn't. You're just fooling yourself and making excuses.

[Edited by: forresj at 12/3/2013 10:31:29 AM EST]
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GrumpyCat
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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2013 3:05:16 PM

"Diesels are more cost effective in the european countries than in the U.S. because Reagan imposed a fuel tax on diesel vehicles to pay for road maintenance. The higher tax on diesel was imposed because trucks were the main cause of serious road wear."

Sorry you got that wrong. Congress did it, Reagan allowed it. Big difference. Reagan had the guts but Congress did not.

Congress didn't have the guts to face down the trucking industry with per-mile taxes and rightfully knew they couldn't one-size-fits-all tax for road use. So they levied the tax on diesel which is primarily purchased by commercial users.

If Congress wasn't the greedy raise-taxes spend spend spend pigs they are then they could find a way to tax trucks according to the road use and damage incurred. We already have off-road diesel, why not add OTR diesel and passenger car diesel? But that would lower revenue, and thats against Congress' religion.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2013 1:19:03 PM


Sorry, karz3, but the post doesn't make sense to me.

The topic name is "Use diesels?" That sounds like you're asking if people use diesel vehicles or use diesel fuel.

However the original post reads: "Use diesel car and cummins dodge truck. But shame the price difference cuts into further serious merits to it."

I'm not sure if that means "I use a diesel car and cummins dodge truck" or if you're saying saying that "the price difference cuts into buying a used diesel car and cummins dodge truck."

Can you explain, maybe a little better, what you mean and what you want to know from us?
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MertieMan
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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2013 9:56:15 AM

What in thunderation are you talking about? Gasoline engines will last just as long as a diesel if they are properly maintained.
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forresj
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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2013 9:46:14 AM

Diesels are more cost effective in the european countries than in the U.S. because Reagan imposed a fuel tax on diesel vehicles to pay for road maintenance. The higher tax on diesel was imposed because trucks were the main cause of serious road wear.



[Edited by: forresj at 12/2/2013 9:46:33 AM EST]
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dassfg
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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2013 8:19:40 AM

Absolutely use diesels. Increased mpg and long term reliability make them the best choice for many people.
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WEPSMAN
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Message Posted: Dec 2, 2013 8:17:22 AM

I like my diesel Silverado. Also a fan of the VW diesels. Your post would make more sense if you would think through what you are trying to say.
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