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binhboy

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Message Posted: Oct 14, 2013 7:34:29 PM

I was wondering if a manual transmission saves more gas than an automatic. Or does it just depend on the driver ?
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fumanaz
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2014 9:02:24 PM

No
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lyanMI
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Message Posted: Jan 20, 2014 8:06:09 PM

Automatics are becoming more fuel efficient these days
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WEDDY
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2014 11:00:52 AM

Depends on the car and of course the driver. Some cars show better EPA with manual, and others show better with automatic.
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Boyrr
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2014 10:04:58 AM

Not with the current machines
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gvan
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2014 12:47:13 PM

"Coasting in neutral can waste gas because the ECM sends gas to the engine
to maintain idle but shuts down fuel during engine braking action."

And to back that up:

January 15, 2014
Shifting into neutral and coasting does not save gas. When the vehicle is coasting with the transmission in gear, the computers turn off the fuel injectors until the engine slows to near idle speed. The engine is still turning over but using no gasoline. “Turning off the fuel injectors means the drivetrain is turning the engine rather than the engine turning the drivetrain,” says RockAuto.com’s Taylor. “This actually helps slow the vehicle and slightly reduces brake pad wear when coming to a stop.”
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traffic cop
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Message Posted: Jan 14, 2014 1:34:47 PM

Times have changed. A computerized six-speed automatic is going to outperform a manual four- or five- speed manual box. If you're considering a purchase with a manual, consider the reduced market you'll have for re-sale when you're ready to buy again.

Occasionally there are those "stupid crook stories," where some jerk tries to steal or hijack a car, only to be thwarted by a manual box he doesn't know how to operate.
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magpie2013
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2014 6:26:09 PM

It did way back when, but now things have changed including the gas, so no I don't believe so.
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rick_evans
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2014 7:39:52 AM

Sal30 --"With an auto, it hurts the car to shift to neutral during motion, but with a manual, it's safe for the car. "

1. Coasting in neutral is less safe for car control especially when on a
downgrade because.

2. Coasting in neutral can waste gas because the ECM sends gas to the engine
to maintain idle but shuts down fuel during engine braking action.
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MertieMan
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2014 5:03:23 AM

It most definitely depends on the driver and his technique in using the manual transmission. You cannot skip gears and effectively get good gas mileage.
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Karisholman
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2014 2:36:35 AM

I think it definitely depends on the driver.
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GrumpyCat
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Message Posted: Jan 7, 2014 9:08:29 PM

This is as goofy of a question as to whether synthetic motor oil is magic.

Most any manual transmission will yield better MPG than a caveman stupid classical 3-speed Detroit-based slushbox. But thats not found on modern cars. Even then a big V8 often got better MPG than the same vehicle/engine with a manual. But what many don't tell you is the manual was geared for acceleration not economy.

The best answer to your question is to consult the EPA ratings.

As for synthetic vs refined, once again consult performance tests, not marking nomenclature.
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dgsteven
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Message Posted: Jan 7, 2014 7:30:10 AM

yes
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hoopitup2000
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Message Posted: Jan 7, 2014 7:23:27 AM

"Not that much difference these days mechanics tell me."

I would be wary of these so called "mechanics" when they tell you your "muffler bearings" need to be replaced.

You know we are in trouble when mechanics start to believe the EPA.
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cv
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Message Posted: Jan 7, 2014 6:25:07 AM

Not that much difference these days mechanics tell me.
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dontuknowOH
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2014 4:03:11 AM

My bet is on the skilled driver combined with a familiar std. tranny vehicle with his mind set to save fuel as a priority driving episode. The average driver with average skills/driving habits should do better with the automatic when both vehicles are otherwise equal in nature.

Convenience comes with an extra mechanical design cost(more complex apparatus) = nice & lazy to an extent/degree = affordable/satisfied! Smile!
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SmoknFord
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2014 3:36:18 AM

Depends on how you drive.
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ranger1169
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Message Posted: Jan 4, 2014 2:56:46 AM

yes
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BartandLisa
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Message Posted: Dec 29, 2013 5:56:40 PM

As several posters have noted, a manual has the potential to be more fuel efficient if driven properly. I have driven an automatic truck identical to my manual, except for 1 model year, and have found mine to get 2 mpg better overall. Same axle ratio, wheel size, etc.
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GMGuy65
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2013 9:04:47 PM

with all ratios and # of gears equal, the manual will allways get better mpg. Why? simple. the manual is not pumping oil to pressure to hydraulically engage clutchpacks. or in the case of a few pressure lubed manuals, its at a low PSI, and just for lube.

a good driver can also maximize MPG better with a manual.
hill decent and acent control
tow haul mode
traction control
torque management
engine braking
etc.
all of the above options are standard equipment on any manual transmission vehicle ever built, its just they have to be uploaded in the drivers brain before utilization. :)With a good driver, everything I listed above can be performed with a manual.
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hoopitup2000
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2013 12:29:20 PM

"I disagree with the previous post"

So do I. Unfortunately this is what happens when people think the EPA can do anything right.
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OilerFan
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2013 11:47:22 AM

I disagree with the previous post. A human being, operating a manual transmission is always going to out perform even the newest of automatic transmissions. A human being can see the road ahead and make judgements ahead of time. A human being can anticipate what will happen next, and therefore, a human being operating a manual transmission will get better gas mileage (unless that human being isn't smart enough to operate a manual transmission and make those judgements). In which case, they probably have poor driving habits and wont get as good mileage as they could, even with the newer transmissions.
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PaylessKY
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2013 10:19:15 AM

Not with todays transmissions.
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borsht
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2013 1:22:25 AM

modern manuel transmissions and automatic transimission use automatic tranmission fluid. Low viscoity oil. There is a lot more parts turning in an automatic trasmission so it will not be as efficent as an automatic.
That being said. A poor driver can get poor gas mileage with either.
A good driver will get better gas mileage with a manuel.

If one uses the mpg meter. and keeps it from dropping into the small digits, he again will do well with either type of transmission.

But since the losses as less in a manual, an automatic at its best will be less than a manual.
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PassmyGas
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2013 12:37:00 AM

No, but the driver or operator can.
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PassmyGas
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Message Posted: Dec 27, 2013 11:50:27 AM

Yes!! You need to know how to drive and what your engine specs are.
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hoopitup2000
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Message Posted: Dec 27, 2013 8:11:30 AM

Driven correctly, the manual is more often than not the most efficient. Automatic technology is certainly improving, but still can't beat the human brain at determining the best shift points.

Brake life can also be greatly extended with a manual. I'm planning on getting at least 125,000-150,000 miles out of my front brakes.
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eyegotgas2
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Message Posted: Dec 27, 2013 3:41:33 AM

I read an article here a while ago that explained it used to be so but with modern technology it is no longer the case.
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poetdog73
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Message Posted: Dec 27, 2013 12:13:56 AM

yes it does!
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WES03
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2013 8:19:29 PM

It does on my '09 Focus.
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2013 6:56:46 PM

i have a 1989 nissan 240sx, it's fun to drive but i'm only getting about 27 mpg
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ace12012
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2013 2:57:55 PM

from what I have read, this is not as true as it used to be.
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Gabilondo
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2013 2:46:18 PM

I believe that it does.
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Vin63
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Message Posted: Dec 26, 2013 9:49:50 AM

It depends on the driver.
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Message Posted: Dec 25, 2013 12:54:32 PM

Yes, if done properly, not revved all the time
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FeinDenz
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Message Posted: Nov 29, 2013 7:01:00 AM

Yes, especially if you drive right shoe-less (it is NOT illegal) as you shift gears with more frequent pedals-touch than with automatic transmissions.
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cv
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Message Posted: Nov 29, 2013 6:57:05 AM

If one drives it properly, yes for most cars.
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Message Posted: Nov 29, 2013 12:51:17 AM

definitely. manual is always better option than automatic if you can handle it.
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Sal30
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Message Posted: Nov 25, 2013 8:28:19 AM

Depends on the car. Passat TDI gets 43 mpg with manual and 40 with DSG.
Passat 1.8t gets 34 with Tiptronic and 35 with Manual.
Mazda 6 is the opposite, 37 mpg with manual and 38 with Auto.
I do think that you can still do better with a manual because you can shift to neutral downhill and coasting to red lights and stop signs. With an auto, it hurts the car to shift to neutral during motion, but with a manual, it's safe for the car.
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Message Posted: Nov 24, 2013 3:43:09 AM

no
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Message Posted: Nov 21, 2013 2:19:38 PM

not as much as a light foot
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hoopitup2000
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2013 1:49:27 PM

skyjunky says "have to agree IF you know how to drive one they will save you$$ both in gas and in repair"

Agree 100% unless comparing to a DSG tranny. The playing field is pretty level between a manual & DSG. All other tranny's are more inefficient when accelerating.(And not as fun to drive either)
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2013 8:13:03 AM

Not anymore
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Skyjunky
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Message Posted: Nov 20, 2013 2:27:30 AM

have to agree IF you know how to drive one they will save you$$ both in gas and in repair
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Message Posted: Nov 19, 2013 5:27:25 PM

If you know how to drive one, yes.
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Boyrr
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2013 4:07:53 PM

not so much now a days.
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Message Posted: Nov 16, 2013 2:00:24 PM

Not with newer vehicles.
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Boyrr
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2013 5:37:42 PM

A light foot saves the most gas
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Message Posted: Nov 14, 2013 4:11:43 PM

no
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2013 2:34:40 PM

NORTHROAD writes: Hypermilers almost always choose manuals, even on new cars.
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On older cars this is probably true but new production automatics usually have better gearing and they consequently give better mileage than the manual if it's a 5-spd. 6-spd manuals supply the missing overdrive gear and they usually give about 1 MPG better mileage.

I don't think a hypermiler will absolutely choose a manual. The newer automatics are simply getting too good.
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Message Posted: Nov 13, 2013 6:10:02 AM

Driving habits are your gas mileage.
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