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sarasotasingle

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Message Posted: Jun 24, 2013 2:41:23 PM

When the American people stand up and demand A source of affordable oil you will see oil prices slip.American oil development is expensive if you feel A few thousand US oil jobs are worth $4.oo+gal gas then stop complaining about the price.I belive low gas prices(if they stay low no more than $2.00gal)will promote TRUE job creation-in the millions of jobs.Drop all taxes on gas immediately,lets have A vote to buy out speculators(gasoline is much too necessary for this much fluctuation)Ill pay A thousand dollars today for that.Lets have oil companies guarantee A price for the year say $2.50gal to $2.75gal and if it goes higher prove why-is that to much to ask?We have the buying power of hundreds of millions of people.This is A world market why do we have no say at all?
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lilwoof63
Veteran Author Grand Rapids

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Message Posted: Feb 6, 2014 3:28:23 PM

What will happen to the conditions of our roads if the gas tax were lifted? Isn't that what the gas tax is used for?
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Glasman
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 2:29:12 PM

Trouble is, not enough people have the backbone to stand united !
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forresj
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Message Posted: Aug 18, 2013 9:25:43 AM

Travelguy1, as a comment to your statement. People are stupid, ignorant, selfish, lazy and self-absorbed. People want to rely heavily on technology to do what they should be doing.



[Edited by: forresj at 8/18/2013 9:29:04 AM EST]
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Travelguy1
Rookie Author Appleton

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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2013 11:04:47 PM

I say a good majority of people don't realize they can help cut fuel pricing by driving more wisely than erratically, turning off their cars in parking lots, and planning ahead in general. You also have to wonder why there's very fuel efficient cars, hybrids, and vehicles with the variable cylinder displacement or deactivation (that technology that makes a V8 turn into a 4 cylinder engine to conserve energy and fuel) to the stop - start tech for when the vehicle stops at a light and kills the engine until it's time to go again. It's to stop excessive fuel usage.
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FrankLee1
All-Star Author Minnesota

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Message Posted: Jul 19, 2013 5:44:20 AM

A mob with flaming poles and pitchforks always gets it's way. Just sayin'.
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smugutu1234
Champion Author Tallahassee

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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2013 7:03:12 AM

How do we get people to do it?
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GLM4205
Champion Author Toledo

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Message Posted: Jul 18, 2013 6:49:32 AM

Speculators and businesses will do whatever, it's a game of supply and demand.
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GrumpyCat
Champion Author Alabama

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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2013 4:09:07 PM

"This is interesting. Why don't we just make a law that removes oil and gas from Wall Street and the commodities markets?"

Because time and time again every time the heavy hand of government has forcibly removed "speculation" from a market prices have done nothing but go up and reliable supply goes down.

The ignorant do not understand when one speculator "wins" with higher prices another loses.
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GrumpyCat
Champion Author Alabama

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Message Posted: Jul 16, 2013 4:04:58 PM

My idea is that sarasotasingle needs to go back to school to learn grammar, spelling, and capitalization. And needs to have the CAPS LOCK KEY removed from his keyboard.

A space should follow an end-of-sentence period and closing parentheses.

"A" is not a proper noun and should not be capitalized unless it is the first word of a sentence.

$4.00 is spelled with zeros, not lower case O's.
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FrankLee1
All-Star Author Minnesota

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Message Posted: Jul 14, 2013 9:51:46 PM

Still haven't heard back about gas being unaffordable. Judging by all the traffic in huge, new, inefficient vehicles, it is affordable.
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Houckster
Champion Author Atlanta

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Message Posted: Jul 14, 2013 9:34:49 PM

MIKEYL writes: Once the gas is produced, it should be sold to stations directly. No more wholesalers or middlemen.
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I don't think you've thought this out completely. Take some time to understand how gas is shipped and delivered. Without "middlemen" who own pipelines, terminals and storage facilities, we wouldn't have gas.
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Mikeyl
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Message Posted: Jul 14, 2013 9:25:21 AM

This is interesting. Why don't we just make a law that removes oil and gas from Wall Street and the commodities markets?

If oil companies could buy oil directly from the drillers or even the shippers (whether it be from a boat from another country) or train or pipeline from here in the US, they could get the oil at the best price they could negotiate. Competition is always good.

Once the gas is produced, it should be sold to stations directly. No more wholesalers or middlemen.

I don't think we need to pay for this privilege. But, oil lobbyists will never allow this to happen.
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drydem
Sophomore Author Maryland

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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 9:51:40 PM

speculation occurs at two points in the price of gasoline/diesel/jet fuel - the first is the oil rights contract (oil futures) which is initially used to financa the oil exploration and extraction - and whose final prices which is paid for by the oil refineries to create a finish product is reflected in the initial fuel cost that retailers see (e.g. Costco, local service station, etc ). The second is at the point of distribution in regional distribution contracts, e.g. winter heating oil contracts, gasoline regional suppliers, etc. Oil futures contracts does not reqquire speculative markets to be sustainable or viable or to create jobs. IIRC it cost about $2.50 to produce a gallon of gasoline anything less than $2.50/gallon and the refineries start losing money. For each gallon taxes make up about 75 cents on a gallon regardless of the price of gas because the taxes are based per gallon and not as a percentage of sales. The taxes are necessary to pay for the road maintenance and construction. Politics in the USA is controlled by big money and lawsuits not the elections. Regardless of who wins the elections - unless you have a standing court order (and you can sue for monetary damges). you don't stand a chance influenicing Congress xv
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Mikeyl
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 6:38:58 PM

This is an interesting idea.

I think we could modify it slightly.

Just ban speculators. Allow the refineries to purchase oil on the free market - boat by boat from wherever and train car by train car from around North America.

There will be fluctuations, but not like we see today. Speculators - you are right - are the villain, here. They are the ones who are driving up the price of gas to ridiculous prices.

Drop the speculators and Wall Street interference. Buy direct.
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PassmyGas
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Message Posted: Jul 5, 2013 4:55:16 AM

Good Luck!
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Arnsaks
Veteran Author Indiana

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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2013 8:23:55 PM

Because we value a free market, the oil companies will sell the oil to China and India for much higher prices, leaving the US high and dry. We can't just set arbitrary prices for commodities; what we can do is develop alternative forms of energy which will force down the market prices,
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OceanArcher
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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2013 8:56:52 AM

Cut down road-use taxes until the bridges start to fail under use -- what then?
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ZZZoop
Champion Author Virginia

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Message Posted: Jul 4, 2013 8:52:25 AM

Here's my idea for you: go study your computer keyboard and learn the function of each of the keys.
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WEPSMAN
Champion Author South Dakota

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Message Posted: Jul 3, 2013 8:42:16 PM

Taxes pay for infrastructure. The roads are already bad. With no taxes, they will be worse.
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Dennis783
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Message Posted: Jun 28, 2013 7:22:46 AM

unfortunately this president has no interest in controlling the fuel prices
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speedy700
Champion Author New Jersey

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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 11:20:04 AM

Well once the government gets used to the tax cash cow it's not very willing to relinquish it...
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Chazzer
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 10:05:16 AM

Great idea! However, as 'dassfg' says "It will never happen".
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dassfg
Champion Author Fort Worth

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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 9:40:20 AM

Good Idea -- the Feds will never let it happen since most of the gas tax goes to general revenue. There would be slaughter in the streets.
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the1roadhog
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Message Posted: Jun 27, 2013 8:16:38 AM

Good luck with that...
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forestghost07
Champion Author Miami

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Message Posted: Jun 26, 2013 3:35:24 PM

When was the last time a significant # of Americans got together and "stood up" for something, the Viet Nam war???

We're a nation of SHEEP, afraid of our gov't and police, instead of the other way round, like much of the world. Apathy rules here :-(
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RalphHightower
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Message Posted: Jun 26, 2013 5:56:00 AM

Taxes on gas help pay for road maintenance. Where will that money come from?
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ronbo2010
Champion Author Los Angeles

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Message Posted: Jun 26, 2013 3:31:10 AM

At least he put forth his idea. :-)
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OceanArcher
Champion Author Mississippi

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Message Posted: Jun 26, 2013 12:14:08 AM

This idea needs to be researched further ... seems to have holes in it
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PatAZ
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Message Posted: Jun 25, 2013 9:15:25 PM

I believe you need to do a lo more studying instead of pie in the sky ideas.
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contiki
Champion Author Ontario

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Message Posted: Jun 25, 2013 9:12:18 PM

"When the American people stand up and demand A source of affordable oil you will see oil prices slip"

I hardly think so......only wishful thinking...........

Living in Canada and Alberta has much oil yet we Canadians still pay world prices at the pumps for gas.....

[Edited by: contiki at 6/25/2013 9:16:03 PM EST]
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priver
All-Star Author Alberta

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Message Posted: Jun 25, 2013 9:05:57 PM

well, gas is cheap in Mexico... are people working? sure for peanuts..
I say time to work for some oilfield company and get a fuel card and start driving???
ok, who is hiring?? I'm in..
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Houckster
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Message Posted: Jun 25, 2013 4:41:17 PM

Ditto FORRESJ on this: unrealistic, dead on arrival
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forresj
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Message Posted: Jun 25, 2013 9:34:46 AM

First of all if we eliminate taxes on gasoline, road infrastructure will suffer and then people will complain to their local and state government. You will see local and state property taxes go up to compensate. Nobody wants to see their local and state property taxes go up to pay and maintain roads that cross-country trailer trucks routinely destroy.

Secondly, I don't want to comment on your other ideas. Sorry, but what you suggest is unrealistic. I have nothing good to say about it.

The only thing that works is controlling your own consumption and conservation.

Why do people still think that they can keep their high gas consumption and believe that gas prices should stay low? It's sad that simpletons still haven't learned anything. Sorry, but sometimes the truth hurts. Hopefully, you've learned something from this.


[Edited by: forresj at 6/25/2013 9:40:42 AM EST]
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MertieMan
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Message Posted: Jun 25, 2013 8:49:38 AM

This is sort of like boycotts which do not and will not work in any form.
They know if you don't purchase today, then tomorrow you will for sure.
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FrankLee1
All-Star Author Minnesota

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Message Posted: Jun 25, 2013 3:12:15 AM

What makes you think oil is unaffordable?
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outlaw329
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Message Posted: Jun 25, 2013 2:10:53 AM

Sounds good, but doubt that it will work out.
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2amy
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Message Posted: Jun 24, 2013 9:28:21 PM

It sounds good, however I will have to agree with purplebears: What about our politicins? They dont worry about the price of fuel.
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purplebears
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Message Posted: Jun 24, 2013 5:55:26 PM

Sounds wonderful.
Reality is that Big Oil owns our politicians AND the oil that is pumped from the land it leases. Once the oil is out of the ground it is no longer yours or mine, it is theirs. Simple capitalism takes over and it is sold to the highest bidder (speculator).
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d_clark
Champion Author Grand Rapids

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Message Posted: Jun 24, 2013 5:47:50 PM

Will not work.

If you think gas is expensive here, try looking at Europe.
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