traffic cop
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 9:38:03 PM
Back in the sixties, there was a rather clever cigarette ad: "Are you smoking more now, and enjoying it less?"
Seems to apply to gasoline: "We're paying more now, and getting less (power)."
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gvan
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 2:01:20 PM
I have not noticed any decrease in mpg. If Ohio recently mandated E10 then you may have a slight decrease in mpg.
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ggg452
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 10:06:37 AM
What? Isn't regular unleaded based on a standard formula???
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giwan
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 10:02:28 AM
Not sure what you are comparing but ethanol does have less energy, hence you need to use more of it
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the1roadhog
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Message Posted: Feb 22, 2013 8:57:13 AM
Finite observing....
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CactusBobs
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 7:58:17 PM
Houckster : your mileage was nothing to worry about , but i am not you and don't drive what you do
my mileage is worse than bad
1972 plymouth duster was 23mpg now 17.5
1975 GMC 1500 pickup was 14 now 11mpg
1979 Volvo was 26 now down to 19
to be fair
1994 ford ranger pickup was 18 now around 17.5
and before you say these are old cars , we all drive old cars around here , cars just do not wear out here , or become not worth repairing
on top of that rotten fuel lines , tank grommets , fuel pump check valves
E10 is Garbage
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Houckster
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 5:38:33 PM
CACTUSBOB writes: but you guys keep voting in the same clowns every time
enjoy your E10 gasoline
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First, with regard to the politics of the issue, we needed a substitute for MTBE since we were all exercised about the threat of tanks leaking and contaminating our water. I, for one, thought we should fix the tanks, not the fuel. Nevertheless fixing the fuel was what we did and the MidWest vote is something neither party can ignore. The politicians are not clowns, they respond to voters and the reality of politics is one person's clown is another's hard-working patriot.
Second, while I'm not a fan of E10 and hope we don't go to E15, it's not that bad. Georgia has had E10 since 2008. In the records I keep on fuel consumption, mileage is a bit above the average before E10 came in. That's not to say that E10 increased my mileage, rather that the engine is ageing a bit and has less internal friction but the loss from using E10 in my experience is so small that it's not worth getting worked up about.
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CactusBobs
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 4:06:10 PM
no kidding , this is not news
but you guys keep voting in the same clowns every time
enjoy your E10 gasoline
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OceanArcher
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 1:39:45 PM
I think the author is commenting/complaining about the addition of ethanol to his fuel, and by extension, griping about the planned increase from 10% to 15% ethanol ...
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rick_evans
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Message Posted: Feb 21, 2013 9:20:32 AM
I'm not sure what you mean by "new gas" but my '07 Corolla fuel economy has slightly improved since acquiring it in '06.
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