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astrobaby Rookie Author Detroit Posts:12 Points:161,815 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: May 16, 2012 2:05:17 PM Ignore astrobaby Report Abuse Tires filled with nitrogen boosts mileage. Is it worth filling @ $20?

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Tires filled with nitrogen boosts mileage. Is it worth filling @ $20?

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metsghia Rookie Author Jacksonville Posts:77 Points:7,140 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 10:12:08 AM Ignore metsghia Report Abuse If you are an individual that checks your tire air pressure regularly I can't see the value in nitrogen in tires. Personally, I feel its another gimmick but if a company such as Costco will initially fill new tires purchased and then "top off" as required, fix and refill tires after flats, and not out in any way out of your normal daily drive then what the heck- go for it.
Banjoe Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:4,240 Points:613,210 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 9:14:48 AM Ignore Banjoe Report Abuse I've said it before and it needs repeating - "Houckster nailed the situation exactly".
OilerFan Champion Author Tulsa Posts:14,040 Points:2,446,600 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jan 17, 2013 7:31:27 AM Ignore OilerFan Report Abuse I'd really like to know if this is worth it.
Houckster Champion Author Atlanta Posts:9,340 Points:693,335 Joined:Sep 2003	Message Posted: Jan 16, 2013 9:14:59 PM Ignore Houckster Report Abuse BORSHT asks: How much of an increase in ecconomy should one expect? ____ Nitrogen provides no benefit against a properly inflated tire with air. The advantages of nitrogen include the ability of the tire to maintain pressure which means more convenience, avoidance of the potential corrosive effects on the tube with oxygen, and less radical changes in pressure due to temperature. If you always keep your tire pressures checked, nitrogen is of little value. If, like many, they are checked during every blue moon, nitrogen can save on gas and treadwear as a function of underinflation.
borsht All-Star Author Oakland Posts:789 Points:189,505 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Jan 16, 2013 8:58:44 PM Ignore borsht Report Abuse How much of an increase in ecconomy should one expect?
Houckster Champion Author Atlanta Posts:9,340 Points:693,335 Joined:Sep 2003	Message Posted: Jan 16, 2013 12:47:22 PM Ignore Houckster Report Abuse One poster writes: Wherever you buy your tires should re-inflate them with Nitrogen for nothing if they use Nitrogen. Otherwise I am not sure it will be that much of an impact and certainly not enough to offset the $20 you mention above. ______ Too often, people look at the immediate cost of something and make a decision on that one factor. In this case I think it's a mistake. A set of radial tires can last 40-60K miles these days. That's several years for most drivers and in that time they will have to check and possibly add air to those tires at least once a month if they want to keep the tires at the proper PSI. If nitrogen cuts the frequency by half, that certainly seems worth $20 to me. Also, while COSTCO may provide nitrogen free of charge, others may feel the need to charge something since the nitrogen machine does cost money to purchase and maintain.
silverG Champion Author New Jersey Posts:4,882 Points:1,342,685 Joined:Jun 2004	Message Posted: Jan 16, 2013 10:39:41 AM Ignore silverG Report Abuse When one buys tires @ COSTCO they automatically fill w/nitro.
bigtankBC All-Star Author British Columbia Posts:810 Points:699,720 Joined:Nov 2010	Message Posted: Jan 16, 2013 8:28:07 AM Ignore bigtankBC Report Abuse yes
ovillaone All-Star Author Dallas Posts:780 Points:177,455 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 5:52:31 AM Ignore ovillaone Report Abuse no
waynecz Sophomore Author Indiana Posts:211 Points:222,525 Joined:Jul 2012	Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 10:45:20 PM Ignore waynecz Report Abuse Wherever you buy your tires should re-inflate them with Nitrogen for nothing if they use Nitrogen. Otherwise I am not sure it will be that much of an impact and certainly not enough to offset the $20 you mention above.
Houckster Champion Author Atlanta Posts:9,340 Points:693,335 Joined:Sep 2003	Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 2:43:28 PM Ignore Houckster Report Abuse HOTROD10 writes: If you check your tire pressure often and fill with dry air, any advantage of using straight nitrogen would be negligible. _____ Fine but I haven't seen any inflation machines that display humidity levels.
Jeff1226 Sophomore Author Flint Posts:127 Points:8,075 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 2:26:38 PM Ignore Jeff1226 Report Abuse never have done it
HotRod10 Champion Author Wyoming Posts:2,271 Points:40,370 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 9:40:32 AM Ignore HotRod10 Report Abuse If you check your tire pressure often and fill with dry air, any advantage of using straight nitrogen would be negligible.
cv Champion Author Raleigh Posts:15,201 Points:3,265,605 Joined:Oct 2003	Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 6:28:20 AM Ignore cv Report Abuse Tried it with one set of tires....I couldn't tell any difference.
RalphHightower Champion Author South Carolina Posts:3,299 Points:688,505 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Jan 7, 2013 6:02:43 AM Ignore RalphHightower Report Abuse Not worth the expense
LKnight598 All-Star Author South Carolina Posts:807 Points:186,115 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Jan 7, 2013 12:07:58 AM Ignore LKnight598 Report Abuse Not for me!
weddy11 Champion Author Phoenix Posts:1,732 Points:430,875 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: Jan 6, 2013 10:19:52 AM Ignore weddy11 Report Abuse no
LauraLea5 All-Star Author Ontario Posts:779 Points:439,085 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Jan 6, 2013 3:37:42 AM Ignore LauraLea5 Report Abuse Don't believe so
dbcraw Champion Author Orange County Posts:9,598 Points:1,218,795 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 4:07:28 PM Ignore dbcraw Report Abuse What a scam!
Mr1lung All-Star Author Phoenix Posts:811 Points:164,150 Joined:Nov 2012	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 1:16:05 PM Ignore Mr1lung Report Abuse no
dontuknowOH Champion Author Ohio Posts:2,098 Points:36,565 Joined:Aug 2009	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 11:22:39 AM Ignore dontuknowOH Report Abuse Unless all tire manufactorers cheapen their tire inner wall textures,I won't be needing the Ni... options,I pick tire brands because of their ability to be trouble free,so far that's been the past good results.....
Banjoe Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:4,240 Points:613,210 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 9:50:36 AM Ignore Banjoe Report Abuse Houckster nailed the situation exactly. I never believed in this magic gas myself but reading the postings here, doing a bit of research on leakage rates, and finally admitting to myself that I rarely check my tire pressures, I've concluded that Nitrogen has a very positive effect for the "average" car owner. Of course, I haven't installed N2 yet, but admitting the reality is the first, and biggest, step.
RalphHightower Champion Author South Carolina Posts:3,299 Points:688,505 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 8:00:59 AM Ignore RalphHightower Report Abuse I'm not spending the extra money.
DanFMA Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:1,106 Points:1,071,510 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 7:25:59 AM Ignore DanFMA Report Abuse No.
waynester1955 Veteran Author Ontario Posts:284 Points:206,935 Joined:Aug 2009	Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 9:44:30 PM Ignore waynester1955 Report Abuse Free at Costco but I guess it's included in the initial cost.
xtremecheap All-Star Author Arkansas Posts:986 Points:373,100 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 8:39:41 PM Ignore xtremecheap Report Abuse I would not pay more than a couple of bucks a tire, and I would not do it if I can't watch them.
d_clark All-Star Author Grand Rapids Posts:921 Points:379,560 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 7:25:17 PM Ignore d_clark Report Abuse doubt you will see a boost in mileage.
jeffarklie Champion Author Nova Scotia Posts:2,631 Points:561,475 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Jan 4, 2013 5:44:41 PM Ignore jeffarklie Report Abuse no
Houckster Champion Author Atlanta Posts:9,340 Points:693,335 Joined:Sep 2003	Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 9:51:43 AM Ignore Houckster Report Abuse DUCATIRIDER writes: Just take a look at the composition of air -- mostly Nitrogen. Complete scam. _____ Sorry. This kind of air-headed thinking is one of the biggest problems in our country. The reality: If you're accustomed to regularly checking your tire pressure, nitrogen won't provide much value BUT since most people don't check their tire pressures often AND because when they do, they inflate to the OEM recommendation which is really the minimum safe inflation most people are driving on underinflated tires. The value of tires that retain their pressure more effectively and the gas not lost from underinflated tires is not to be overlooked. [Edited by: Houckster at 1/3/2013 9:53:36 AM EST]
dgsteven All-Star Author Los Angeles Posts:792 Points:205,825 Joined:Oct 2012	Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 4:10:35 AM Ignore dgsteven Report Abuse nope
DucatiRider Rookie Author Maryland Posts:70 Points:1,200 Joined:Sep 2012	Message Posted: Oct 3, 2012 9:51:48 AM Ignore DucatiRider Report Abuse Just take a look at the composition of air -- mostly Nitrogen. Complete scam.
PhilnTX All-Star Author Dallas Posts:656 Points:435,330 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Sep 25, 2012 3:27:59 PM Ignore PhilnTX Report Abuse It's worth it to the guy selling you the N2. Not that much to you.
ridgerunnerNY Sophomore Author Rochester Posts:128 Points:27,990 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: Sep 25, 2012 2:54:08 PM Ignore ridgerunnerNY Report Abuse If you are driving an industrial mining dump truck, then you need to fill the tires with nitrogen to prevent them from starting on fice and exploding. Otherwise, you are wasting your money.
achas Veteran Author Charlotte Posts:270 Points:43,545 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Sep 21, 2012 5:42:11 PM Ignore achas Report Abuse Thanks Banjoe and Houckster
shea33 Champion Author Pensacola Posts:2,363 Points:541,965 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Sep 20, 2012 7:18:49 PM Ignore shea33 Report Abuse yes it is.
Banjoe Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:4,240 Points:613,210 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Sep 20, 2012 5:50:43 PM Ignore Banjoe Report Abuse I think Houckster has nailed this argument right through the eye. Nitrogen does nothing over standard air IF you keep your tires inflated. For those who ignore their tires for months at a time, Nitrogen will maintain pressures a bit better. If you pay attention to what your car/truck needs and wants, nitrogen is a time and, if you pay for the stuff, a money waster. Now you have to decide if you pay attention to your tires and keep them very happy or if you will ignore your tires and let Nitrogen cover off a bit of your laziness.
Houckster Champion Author Atlanta Posts:9,340 Points:693,335 Joined:Sep 2003	Message Posted: Sep 20, 2012 1:54:08 PM Ignore Houckster Report Abuse BRAD_I2001 writes: No... Nitrogen does nothing for fuel economy... ____ Actually it does. Most people inflate their tires to the OEM recommendation and then forget about them for months. Consequently most people are driving on underinflated tires. Nitrogen, in a properly mounted tire, will not seep quickly through the tube so people will drive on tires much closer to proper inflation much more of the time and that will save gas.
brad_i2001 Rookie Author Huntsville Posts:21 Points:285,100 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Sep 20, 2012 7:03:03 AM Ignore brad_i2001 Report Abuse No... Nitrogen does nothing for fuel economy... It is used in military vehicles since it will not explode when in contact with flames.
datsher Champion Author Jacksonville Posts:2,312 Points:497,440 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: Sep 19, 2012 11:10:56 PM Ignore datsher Report Abuse I don't think so
Wanda127 Champion Author Florida Posts:2,494 Points:914,030 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: Sep 19, 2012 7:17:42 PM Ignore Wanda127 Report Abuse I'm not sure they are worth the extra money. I have Lo-Profile tires & I have about 90k miles on them & still have good tread. I have the tires for life program with Chev. dealership in Virginia & can't them worn down enough to replace. I now live in FL. & they do not transfer the deal for the car. So, I either have to go back to Hampton, VA for a visit or buy my own tires.
rick_evans Champion Author Boston Posts:3,719 Points:1,032,755 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: Sep 19, 2012 11:26:43 AM Ignore rick_evans Report Abuse If you're selling the nitrogen, it's worth it.
MertieMan Champion Author Lexington Posts:14,783 Points:2,894,635 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Sep 19, 2012 9:54:22 AM Ignore MertieMan Report Abuse You are dreaming, normal air contains 79 percent nitrogen.
Lilly02 Champion Author Rockford Posts:1,658 Points:523,865 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Sep 3, 2012 7:50:54 AM Ignore Lilly02 Report Abuse No
dontuknowOH Champion Author Ohio Posts:2,098 Points:36,565 Joined:Aug 2009	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 9:23:38 PM Ignore dontuknowOH Report Abuse I believe it was early summer when the tires in question were mounted on my vehicle. I really thought the slight deflation was caused by the new valve stems installed,don't really know although I did tighten the core valves on each wheel and capped them after trying the soapy moisture test,the wheels are oem alloy. No problems since on still the same wheels/tires nearing 75,ooo miles with plenty of tread and no scuffs.I simply reair when needed by a my garage compressor,it has a moisture trap filter.
Houckster Champion Author Atlanta Posts:9,340 Points:693,335 Joined:Sep 2003	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 4:55:53 PM Ignore Houckster Report Abuse DONTUKNOWOH writes: Just a one time event with me,when a new set of tires were mounted,two months later had to add regular air because two of those tires became low inflated. _____ This sounds a bit strange. Nitrogen should not bleed through the tube as quickly as with air. If the tires lost enough pressure to require refilling, then it seems very likely that the tires were not properly mounted in that there was a defective seal between the tire and the rim. That the tires are holding air now seems to indicate that something more than just adding air occurred when the tires were brought up to proper temperature.
BLWong Veteran Author Las Vegas Posts:436 Points:183,940 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 12:43:13 PM Ignore BLWong Report Abuse Costco fills for free to members
dontuknowOH Champion Author Ohio Posts:2,098 Points:36,565 Joined:Aug 2009	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 11:39:44 AM Ignore dontuknowOH Report Abuse Just a one time event with me,when a new set of tires were mounted,two months later had to add regular air because two of those tires became low inflated.No problems since with reg air added. Mileage wise I haven't noticed any change,but keep track of tire pressure at least monthly. I have never dismounted a tire in the past that had any moisture inside problems or steel wheel rust,only a small congelled ball of rubber residue rolled up inside by tire motion(debris)sometimes found. Often I changed only my own tires in the past never found any moisture problems on any runnable wheels,ones that set for long periods of time on undrivable vehicles yes moisture/rust was sometimes seen inside. Older alloy wheels can corrode/oxidise,causing a sealing problem,slow leaks near rim and bead areas,cleaning/buffing metal often corrects this. I would say any minor moisture trapped inside a tire gets dissapated threw the tire walls as vapor same as the reg air does over a short time. Any fuel savings I attribute to is due to correct pressure monitoring on a reg basis till tires tread wears out...That's just me....
Banjoe Champion Author Winnipeg Posts:4,240 Points:613,210 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: Sep 1, 2012 9:59:41 AM Ignore Banjoe Report Abuse Anyone used a compressed air drier for tire fill air supply to reduce water content? Found a simple setup at: http://www.ecompressedair.com/air-dryers/point-of-use/ds20-point-of-use.aspx Seems to me that getting the water out of normal air would provide some benefits but haven't heard of it being done.
v6AWD Rookie Author British Columbia Posts:11 Points:240 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Aug 29, 2012 2:55:07 PM Ignore v6AWD Report Abuse OMG who charges $20 to fill with Nitro?? I can get a repair and nitro filled for $20 thats including taxes! I have nitro cause the car came with it, but : Nitro was mainly used in racing ...helps keep the tires at a more reg. temp. and because of the stress load more contact patch to the road. Air is 80% nitro anyways ....if you do go nitro it only works if you can purge the tire 100% If you ever add air to that tire the benefit is gone again. (Some) other benefits of nitro are: -Bigger molecule, less likely to leak. -Doesn't expand and contract like O2 so in cold/hot weather it's less likely to change tire pressure (over 200km this would change about 2 -3 psi with air) -Less corrosive (air has more moisture) -Non combustible [Edited by: v6AWD at 8/29/2012 2:56:05 PM EST]
05FLHRI Champion Author Ohio Posts:1,451 Points:497,905 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Aug 26, 2012 8:36:52 AM Ignore 05FLHRI Report Abuse Havent heard enough good to pay the $$$