oilpan4
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Message Posted: Jan 9, 2013 1:46:42 AM
"Gas mileage was 22.5 before and 22.3 after, burned up my charging system"
Can't say I am surprized.
Electrical loads to have a measureable effect on fuel economy at least in cars.
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HotRod10
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2013 11:35:51 AM
"Gas mileage was 22.5 before and 22.3 after"
Imagine that, the laws of physics and thermodynamics actually work. The "fuel" starts out as water and ends as water, so the only energy change is the losses in the conversion.
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CactusBobs
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Message Posted: Dec 23, 2012 9:35:47 PM
Yes i did for about one year
this unit was given to me , the old owner paid a lot for it and it kept messing up so i was paid to remove it
it did nothing installed on a 1979 Volvo 2.3L
Gas mileage was 22.5 before and 22.3 after
burned up my charging system
just in a general way more trouble than i thought it would be with no benefit
removed it when i was doing some under hood work , sold it on e bay
[Edited by: CactusBobs at 12/23/2012 9:41:37 PM EST]
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carinthuist
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Message Posted: Dec 23, 2012 9:35:39 PM
No I have not
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jes
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Message Posted: Dec 23, 2012 7:42:40 AM
scam
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OilerFan
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Message Posted: Dec 22, 2012 8:59:12 PM
I would really like to try it but the cost would have to be right. It's a big risk without knowing for sure what my benefit would be.
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oilpan4
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Message Posted: Dec 22, 2012 11:16:22 AM
If these hydrogen kits work so well then why have vehicle manufactures spent billions on building and developing electric hybrid drive systems and ignored hydrogen technology?
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DCD_Guy
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Message Posted: Mar 1, 2012 12:05:07 AM
There seems no such a kit. HHO kit, or hydrogen injection, started 100 years
ago, and is outdated these days, not worth to try.
There's one aftermarket kit called "DCD Controller Kit" which does help you
to save fuel, and worth to try -----
contest[dot]techbriefs[dot]com/component/content/article/1912
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kxy4fw
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Message Posted: Feb 29, 2012 6:36:27 AM
No.
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Gas_Buddy
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2012 7:28:13 PM
SnookerMN:
You wrote: "exactly what i figured... thats too bad... really want to keep driving my car gonna end up trading/selling it."
Two questions:
First, while I don't disagree with Shockjock1961 that many of the car "kits" are a sham, there are people who seriously believe in the hydrogen car kits. I don't believe in them, but others do (including, initially, Shockjock1961's friend who is a mechanic and should be familiar with such things). For all we know (and I don't know), the kit that Shockjock1961's friend installed was a scam but others aren't. But can you tell why, what Shockjock1969 wrote, is "exactly what [you] figured"? If it's what you already figured, were you looking for us to disprove what you already figured? If so, why didn't you give us your point of view and tell us you were interested in contrasting or opposing opinions? That way we'd know what you were looking for.
Second, why, just because some of the hydrogen car kits may be a sham, can't you keep your car? Why, since the hydrogen car kits may not work, do you apparently have to end up trading/selling your car? Why can't you keep and use it without the capability of adding hydrogen as a fuel?
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OceanArcher
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2012 1:16:12 PM
Haven't even seen a station where I could purchase hydrogen directly -- guess I'd have to go to a welding supply house ...
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DCD_Guy
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2012 3:11:47 AM
Hydrogen is too expensive. It can be widely found in cheaper natural gas.
So you should burn natural gas directly. Honda Civic has CNG fueled version.
Please try it before you come to dream hydrogen.
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SnookerMN
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 11:34:13 AM
exactly what i figured... thats too bad... really want to keep driving my car gonna end up trading/selling it.
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SnookerMN
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 11:34:12 AM
exactly what i figured... thats too bad... really want to keep driving my car gonna end up trading/selling it.
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Shockjock1961
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 10:31:04 AM
I friend of mine who is a mechanic bought one of these kits. He swore up and down it was going to save huge amounts of gasoline when he installed it in his truck. I told him it was nothing more then a scam.
After hooking it up and running a couple of tanks of gas, he found out how correct I was...
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OilerFan
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Message Posted: Feb 27, 2012 7:36:10 AM
I've never known anyone that tried this.
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