Not Logged In Log In   Sign Up   Points Leaders
Follow Us    5:10 PM

Message Forum - Read Message

Category: Fuel Economy > Topics Add to favorite topics   Post new topicPost New Topic
Author Topic: Driving WIth Check Engine LIght On? Post a Reply Back to Topics
AFOS

Champion Author
Chicago

Posts:30,396
Points:3,072,390
Joined:Jul 2001
Message Posted: May 12, 2011 1:04:44 PM

Are you presently driving with the CEL on? I am. Car stumbled for about 30-60 seconds at startup yesterday but has driven fine since. This triggered the CEL with a code for cylinder 1 misfire. Until the problem becomes recurrent, I will drive with the CEL light on rather than spending a ton of money chasing would could be a very elusive problem.
REPLIES (newest first)
Profile Pic
weddy11
Champion Author Phoenix

Posts:1,737
Points:431,850
Joined:Dec 2011
Message Posted: May 21, 2013 9:50:46 AM

I try to fix it myself, otherwise have a mechanic repair the problem. Left unrepaired could cost you much more in the long run plus lower fuel economy.
Profile Pic
Jmac2008
Champion Author Missouri

Posts:2,274
Points:881,140
Joined:Dec 2008
Message Posted: May 21, 2013 1:18:47 AM

the light is on for a reason you should at least get it checked out, it doesn't cost anything at autozone.
Profile Pic
blckwolf
Veteran Author North Carolina

Posts:285
Points:74,045
Joined:Nov 2008
Message Posted: May 20, 2013 10:03:07 PM

If it comes on and I don't know why it came on, I'll stop at an Advance, Auto Zone, or other car parts store and borrow their diagnostic tester to find out what it is. If it's something I can take care of myself, I'll either buy the parts I need and do it right then, or for more complicated/expensive jobs, figure out what I need and do the job later. If it's really minor (I have a loose spark plug wire on cylinder 5), I'll ride as is until I can let the truck sit for a bit to cool down (work or home) and then plug the wire back in.
Profile Pic
carinthuist
Champion Author San Francisco

Posts:2,243
Points:329,260
Joined:Mar 2012
Message Posted: May 20, 2013 9:02:30 PM

YES



[Edited by: carinthuist at 5/20/2013 9:04:07 PM EST]
Profile Pic
buickentury
Veteran Author Madison

Posts:297
Points:177,520
Joined:Feb 2006
Message Posted: May 20, 2013 8:51:41 PM

i wouldn't worry until it starts stumbling consistently. I drove a vehicle roughly 50,000 miles with the CEL on. Don't know why because it ran like a champ.
Profile Pic
IAMCANADIAN73
Champion Author Ontario

Posts:2,390
Points:1,121,825
Joined:Apr 2008
Message Posted: May 20, 2013 9:42:29 AM

Yes
Profile Pic
smugutu1234
Sophomore Author Tallahassee

Posts:216
Points:71,540
Joined:Feb 2013
Message Posted: May 20, 2013 9:29:22 AM

Not a good idea.
Profile Pic
hyeglenn
Champion Author Fresno

Posts:1,075
Points:599,905
Joined:Apr 2011
Message Posted: May 20, 2013 8:52:03 AM

Not a good thing.
Profile Pic
krazkar
Veteran Author Calgary

Posts:286
Points:275,520
Joined:May 2012
Message Posted: May 18, 2013 5:14:17 PM

My Volvo would have the light on, then off, then on.
Profile Pic
DHIGAJ
Rookie Author Toronto

Posts:5
Points:698,625
Joined:May 2009
Message Posted: May 18, 2013 3:31:22 PM

yes, since two year I am runing my honda civic car shows the engine light on for air leaking somewhere
Profile Pic
mybigtruck
Sophomore Author San Jose

Posts:130
Points:198,900
Joined:Oct 2009
Message Posted: May 18, 2013 12:59:57 PM

I think you should look into it. Most of the time a CEL indicates something unusual occurred but will turn off if it doesn't happen again over some predetermined number of drive cycles and if it's not a serious enough problem.

However, you're guaranteed to be failed at a smog inspection if the CEL light is on.
Profile Pic
OilerFan
Champion Author Tulsa

Posts:14,045
Points:2,447,575
Joined:Aug 2005
Message Posted: May 18, 2013 8:54:53 AM

I think I'd at least take it by a shop and get a mechanic to listen to see if they hear anything out of the ordinary.
Profile Pic
cv
Champion Author Raleigh

Posts:15,206
Points:3,266,580
Joined:Oct 2003
Message Posted: May 18, 2013 7:21:26 AM

Not far, as soon as possible I have the problem corrected.
Profile Pic
forestghost07
Veteran Author Miami

Posts:292
Points:4,000
Joined:Apr 2013
Message Posted: May 14, 2013 5:38:35 PM

As fault-ridden as my '99 chev. blazer is, CE light's never been on a second beyond startup in 14 yr/102K mi. Damn good motor/drivetrain, the Vortec 4.3L 5 speed - rest of truck is ... blaah

Wanna laugh? Many 70's cars (my '72 MG inc.) had a separate "brake pressure fail" light ... like I'd need a big red light tell me the brake pedal's hit the floor?? LOL! And those switches leaked brake fluid from brand new - useless.

My MG's "fail" light has been reassigned to "electric overdrive on" ... convenient.
Profile Pic
ldheinz
Champion Author Chicago

Posts:19,032
Points:2,358,870
Joined:May 2006
Message Posted: May 14, 2013 9:52:50 AM

The really important lights will often blink. Last weekend I was driving through a really bad thunderstorm and I noticed lower power levels and then saw a blinking check engine light. It was a cylinder 5 misfire, undoubtedly caused by water shorting out the cylinder. It went away after things dried out.

BTW, I have a bluetooth OBD II reader plugged in all the time, and an Android app that reads it, so I can read codes without even pulling over.

[Edited by: ldheinz at 5/14/2013 9:55:12 AM EST]
Profile Pic
51stovi
Sophomore Author Nashville

Posts:131
Points:84,690
Joined:May 2012
Message Posted: May 14, 2013 7:36:09 AM

I am currently driving one of our cars with the check engine light on. Had it checked. It is an emissions O2 sensor. Will have to get it fixed before I go through mandatory emissions later this year.
Profile Pic
streetirsx
Veteran Author North Dakota

Posts:342
Points:123,100
Joined:Nov 2012
Message Posted: May 14, 2013 2:23:33 AM

it could be simple as a worn spark plug or a #1 spark plug wire loose..
Profile Pic
63pioneer
Champion Author Texas

Posts:1,702
Points:57,130
Joined:Feb 2012
Message Posted: May 13, 2013 6:37:04 AM

That CEL light is also known as the "idiot" light for a reason. It comes on for a reason and that is "something" is wrong with the car and if you don't have it checked out, you may end up replacing the engine/transmission, etc, and end up being very costly and may not end being covered by your warrenty. I have both a CEL light and a water temperature gauge in my truck. One night I was coming home from shopping and happened to notice the CEL light on and then looked at my water temperature gauge and it was almost into the red "danger" zone so I slowed down and took the next exit and stopped at a store a got 2 gal. of water. I carefully let the pressure off the radiator, restarted the truck and added some water until full, replaced the cap and drove home. If I had ignored that light and didn't have a gauge the truck would have overheated and It would have blown the head gasket. Pay attention to the light!

[Edited by: 63pioneer at 5/13/2013 6:38:20 AM EST]
Profile Pic
sagnat
Champion Author Riverside

Posts:1,154
Points:308,260
Joined:Jun 2012
Message Posted: Mar 23, 2013 3:31:19 AM

I have a code reader and I get the code to diagnose, clear the CEL and see if it returns while I study on the cause and make preparations to correct.
Profile Pic
dasAuto
All-Star Author Regina

Posts:718
Points:506,420
Joined:Jan 2009
Message Posted: Mar 22, 2013 3:27:11 PM

Its not necessarily a good idea to drive with the CEL on. Sometimes the problem is already terrible before the light even comes on.
Profile Pic
weddy11
Champion Author Phoenix

Posts:1,737
Points:431,850
Joined:Dec 2011
Message Posted: Mar 22, 2013 9:50:30 AM

no, I get it fixed or do it myself if I can.
Profile Pic
ldheinz
Champion Author Chicago

Posts:19,032
Points:2,358,870
Joined:May 2006
Message Posted: Mar 22, 2013 9:39:42 AM

After correcting a misfire problem, I had an occasional P0420 catalyst below efficiency threshold error. That typically means the cats need replacing, quite an expensive proposition. On the internet I got a solution: pour a gallon of lacquer thinner in the tank when it's 1/2 full and drive down the highway for 150 miles or so. I put in the gallon when I filled up for a trip, and afterwards the P0420 error is gone and does not reoccur. It worked! And it only cost $10 minus the gallon of gas that it replaced.
Profile Pic
BigHorne1
Champion Author Missouri

Posts:1,497
Points:296,775
Joined:Jul 2012
Message Posted: Mar 22, 2013 9:23:49 AM

no
Profile Pic
d_clark
All-Star Author Grand Rapids

Posts:925
Points:380,640
Joined:Mar 2005
Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 9:01:46 PM

no
Profile Pic
jnfrancois
Rookie Author Orlando

Posts:90
Points:26,435
Joined:Feb 2013
Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 2:38:09 PM

nope
Profile Pic
Shamyne
Rookie Author Orlando

Posts:92
Points:32,255
Joined:Mar 2009
Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 2:37:59 PM

no
Profile Pic
dontuknowOH
Champion Author Ohio

Posts:2,099
Points:36,585
Joined:Aug 2009
Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 12:53:11 PM

During hot Summer weather while on vacation,our econo idle speed dropped often in traffic below the normal adverage. At that time gas pumps were not completely changed to E-10 everywhere.

Only a couple times the CEL came on,went off,but the idle speed drop bothered me when sitting at a red light.Later on when making a quick left turn the vehicle leaned-out(bogged)in front of oncoming traffic (scary).

Back home the dealership couldn't find anything wrong,CEL stayed off for over 20k more miles,still idle dropped now/then.Mechanic said the engine was purging the Evapo system of extra fumes/vapors coming from fuel tank to canister,normal to do so periodically.Hot weather thingee.

Well CEL came on/stayed on 300 mi. after an oil/air/oil change,mileage dropped,reprogrammed ECM settings helped till 75k miles CEL back on = tune up,three sensors,new plugs,new lubes new filters including cabin filter,fuel filter,runs fine CEL stays off $600.00 worth about $50. per year to keep light off.... performance ok slight mileage drop > E-10 stuff!
Profile Pic
BigHorne1
Champion Author Missouri

Posts:1,497
Points:296,775
Joined:Jul 2012
Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 11:55:31 AM

no
Profile Pic
IAMCANADIAN73
Champion Author Ontario

Posts:2,390
Points:1,121,825
Joined:Apr 2008
Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 10:18:31 AM

Yes
Profile Pic
weddy11
Champion Author Phoenix

Posts:1,737
Points:431,850
Joined:Dec 2011
Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 9:44:40 AM

No, I try to find the problem myself and repair it.
Profile Pic
ldheinz
Champion Author Chicago

Posts:19,032
Points:2,358,870
Joined:May 2006
Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 9:18:53 AM

I bought a Bluetooth OBD-II module on eBay for $10 and bought the "Torque" Android app for my phone for $5. Not only does it allow me to read and reset codes, it has web lookup of codes for your car, and lots more. You can make custom gauges including things like an MPG gauge, exhaust gas temperature, GPS speed vs. OBD speed, and essentially any of the values that the OBD has. On top of that, it can access the phone's accelerometer and give you lateral acceleration, 0-60, and all sorts of performance values. I discovered that my OBD speed is 2.6 mph less than the GPS speed at 70 mph.

BTW, the free version lets you read/set OBD codes.
Profile Pic
rmw10rpw
Sophomore Author West Virginia

Posts:171
Points:483,820
Joined:Sep 2010
Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 8:00:39 AM

no
Profile Pic
Bushmaster
Champion Author Ontario

Posts:3,430
Points:955,370
Joined:May 2004
Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 7:44:57 AM

no
Profile Pic
Bushmaster
Champion Author Ontario

Posts:3,430
Points:955,370
Joined:May 2004
Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 7:44:56 AM

no
Profile Pic
MertieMan
Champion Author Lexington

Posts:14,788
Points:2,895,610
Joined:May 2005
Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 5:19:05 AM

I am currently experiencing the same thing with my truck and right now the light is off. The other day just as soon as I filled up with gas it came on showing a lean fuel on the right bank, whatever that means, but I think it is coming down to an oxygen sensor. My what did we do before we had all of these idiot lights on vehicles?
Profile Pic
chipote
Champion Author Washington

Posts:1,274
Points:388,805
Joined:Nov 2010
Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 3:28:47 AM

No
Profile Pic
ricebike
Champion Author New Jersey

Posts:10,032
Points:1,855,720
Joined:Oct 2005
Message Posted: Mar 21, 2013 2:23:47 AM

anything after 1996 you can just goto autozone, advance auto parts, o reily's to have a free OBD II trouble code scan FOR FREE
Profile Pic
mnrick041
Champion Author Twin Cities

Posts:14,303
Points:1,369,060
Joined:Jun 2009
Message Posted: Mar 20, 2013 10:19:21 PM

A lot of times a older car will have the CEL on and there will be nothing wrong with the way the car runs.

My last car was a Camry that I took up to about 63,000 miles and the check engine light kept coming on. O2 sensor, mass air flow sensor, vacuum leak here something else there.

So if you are driving a older car that is out of warranty you could wind up spending a lot of money trying to get the CEL to stay off. Either drive with it on or buy a new car.

I have a 2012 right now and have not seen a check engine light yet. My airbag system light was acting up for awhile, had to take the car in 3 times for that but now it seems good.
Profile Pic
weddy11
Champion Author Phoenix

Posts:1,737
Points:431,850
Joined:Dec 2011
Message Posted: Mar 18, 2013 9:45:09 AM

No, I try to figure out he problem myself and repair if I can.
Profile Pic
Mr1lung
All-Star Author Phoenix

Posts:811
Points:164,150
Joined:Nov 2012
Message Posted: Mar 17, 2013 4:39:36 PM

no
Profile Pic
AFOS
Champion Author Chicago

Posts:30,396
Points:3,072,390
Joined:Jul 2001
Message Posted: Mar 17, 2013 3:42:55 PM

No longer an issue for me (the OP) since I gave the car to my daughter recently. Free of any CEL's for the last 22 months.
Profile Pic
panj
Champion Author Pennsylvania

Posts:13,128
Points:1,110,825
Joined:Nov 2007
Message Posted: Mar 17, 2013 2:59:31 PM

I Never Do That.
Profile Pic
GLM4205
Champion Author Toledo

Posts:4,057
Points:800,295
Joined:Dec 2010
Message Posted: Mar 12, 2013 6:07:51 AM

No but I do have brake and TCS light on. My brakes work Ok but I do find during wet road conditions brake seems to be struggling. Any idea???
Profile Pic
tdhlmn
Rookie Author Denver

Posts:50
Points:158,740
Joined:Oct 2012
Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 1:17:47 PM

My van has a sensor pre-heater out, so the check engine light is on. But I have a reader and check to see what the codes are. when in California it still would pass the smog check if I let it warm up, clear codes, then take in for the smog check.
Profile Pic
hyeglenn
Champion Author Fresno

Posts:1,075
Points:599,905
Joined:Apr 2011
Message Posted: Mar 10, 2013 8:04:48 AM

sometimes
Profile Pic
pumpernickel2011
Rookie Author Calgary

Posts:12
Points:2,215
Joined:Aug 2011
Message Posted: Mar 9, 2013 4:50:40 PM

Presently driving with CEL ON. My mechanic checked it ($90) said it's the Exhaust Gas Recirculating Valve. Now to replace it's around $275.(Can.)
Checked the web you can clean the EGR valve with carb cleaner, web has a video showing "how to clean the EGR valve..the mechanic has 33 yrs experience. The valve is a bit tricky to remove.
The Dodge dealership had a $200 labor charge to clean said valve.
They do not recommend actually they don't clean them but replace for approximately the same amount!! (no surprise here EH!)
A non-functioning EGR valve will up the gas mileage by 5% but I've not noticed this yet!
It did go away with a drive up to Banff (from Calgary)but came back with the city driving...it needs sustained highway driving to get hot enough to blow the carbon out.... Wondering if I can wait for Spring for a good long drive?
Profile Pic
going up
Champion Author St. Louis

Posts:1,021
Points:802,720
Joined:Jan 2004
Message Posted: Mar 9, 2013 3:59:22 PM

no
Profile Pic
dvc2
All-Star Author Oakland

Posts:937
Points:447,340
Joined:Aug 2011
Message Posted: Mar 9, 2013 1:06:21 PM

no
Profile Pic
metalhat73
Veteran Author Wilmington

Posts:368
Points:240,630
Joined:May 2012
Message Posted: Mar 8, 2013 12:37:20 PM

No
Profile Pic
Boilermat
Veteran Author Indiana

Posts:405
Points:576,850
Joined:May 2011
Message Posted: Mar 8, 2013 12:09:21 PM

Yes...evaporation code. Wasn't the gas cap, but at the time didn't want to pay for a smoke test to isolate the problem.
Post a reply Back to Topics