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bscott077

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Message Posted: Apr 20, 2011 5:17:38 PM

I know most of us have heard of performance chips that will increase your MPG by 4 or even up to 10, but has anyone tried any of these? I figured they were a waste of a money and a scam, but I was just curious if anyone has tried them. My 13 MPG I'm getting right now digs deep into my pockets with every trip to the pump, and an extra 4 MPG would sure be nice.
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contiki
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2014 7:27:48 AM

no............
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Awing1
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Message Posted: Apr 18, 2014 11:26:08 AM

No.
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carinthuist
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Message Posted: Apr 14, 2014 6:38:04 PM

no
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cDagasGo
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Message Posted: Apr 14, 2014 6:33:36 PM

As said "If it's not broke, don't fix it!"
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kennyman
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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2014 11:50:23 PM

Once my truck is out of warranty I want to upgrade the intake, exhaust and chip it for high performance. I don't care about economy.
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deant99
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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2014 9:10:53 PM

yes, it worked
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jl1rp
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Message Posted: Mar 8, 2014 12:44:42 AM

no
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kennyman
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2014 8:01:32 PM

I want to try it when my warranty is over
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szd55
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Message Posted: Mar 7, 2014 5:24:40 PM

ECU is flashed for 20 more hp and 35 ft-lbs torque. 1.9l TDI
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Kruilty
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Message Posted: Mar 3, 2014 11:17:56 PM

Yes, they work. But you have to do other mods as well. You won't get 4mpg more with just a chip. Get rid of all the EPA crap and you're golden. Rule of thumb is this. First two things to change in a new car/truck or older, is first to get a better CAI ( Cold Air Intake), New free flowing exhaust. Those two alone with get you more HP/TQ and better mpg. Somewhere along the lines of 3-15 more HP. More HP/TQ = better MPG as long as you keep your foot out of the gas.
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chrisisawesome1
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Message Posted: Mar 1, 2014 2:30:24 PM

Not for gasoline
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PaylessKY
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2014 3:43:46 PM

No, I keep my car as original as I can.
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PhilnTX
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2014 3:30:55 PM

Gale Banks for Diesel Trucks
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Vin63
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Message Posted: Feb 28, 2014 9:53:03 AM

I run a device that I can increase timing and adjust fuel injection on my diesel.
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herbiepopnecker
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Message Posted: Jan 19, 2014 10:41:11 PM

Where to get one?
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contiki
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Message Posted: Jan 18, 2014 7:06:55 AM

Never tried one...........
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OceanArcher
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Message Posted: Jan 17, 2014 8:57:15 PM

Never found one for my car -- so I can't comment
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PhilnTX
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Message Posted: Jan 14, 2014 4:22:40 PM

They can work good on diesel engines, not so much for gasoline engines.
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jl1rp
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Message Posted: Jan 14, 2014 11:20:31 AM

not seen one for better mpg.
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carinthuist
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Message Posted: Jan 13, 2014 12:38:05 AM

no
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OilerFan
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2014 10:46:52 AM

I have a friend that uses a chip for high performance. He gets horrible gas mileage, but doesn't seem to care.
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PatAZ
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2014 10:27:53 AM

I see no need for one in either of our cars.
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Glasman
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Message Posted: Jan 12, 2014 9:41:56 AM

I like Frito-Lay Dill Chips.
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Camry05
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2014 3:12:26 PM

Performance chips do not work, they have been proven as crap by many respected automotive journalists in very scientific tests.
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poetdog73
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2014 12:53:25 PM

don't use them!!!!
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dv8jane
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2014 12:53:00 PM

those chips are performance chips , they increase HP , not fuel economy.
and I also believe they will void your warranty.
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the1roadhog
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2014 12:52:23 PM

pp ripper
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hyeglenn
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2014 10:13:20 AM

Are they legal?
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PhilnTX
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2014 5:47:57 PM

If you have a diesel, they have more potential to add fuel economy. You won't get4+ MPG increase with a gasoline engine.
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OceanArcher
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2014 2:32:10 PM

I simply don't use them ...
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dontuknowOH
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2014 10:59:00 AM

If I were to beef up my solar charger to about 15 watts I could save a noticeable effort toward fuel savings. The one I use now only keeps up with memory electrical drains of my vehicle, only 1.5 watts is very small.
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forresj
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2014 10:27:18 AM

Performance chips usually boosts improved HP at the expense of fuel economy. So no, I don't use them and I probably won't.
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Maintroll
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2014 8:13:37 AM

What kind of behemoth are you driving to just get 13 mpg? My car gets a consistent 28 mpg in city driving.
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PAA64
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2014 12:27:43 AM

not tried but interesting
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Bill0068
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Message Posted: Jan 7, 2013 9:59:30 PM

The "chip" isn't a magic bullet. If you do your homework, as a rule requires other modification to the vehicle. In my case with a 98 Jetta TDI. If I were to put a bigger turbo on, larger exhaust and intake, and larger injectors, YES I will see an improvement. Goofy as it sounds, BIGGER everything, should make horse power! And it does. One would also think it burns more fuel. But provided I don't use that horse power by slamming my foot to the floor in every gear, there is a mpg improvement.

"I gotta admit, finding one of these devices that would work reliably in your everyday driver would be equal to winning the lottery".

I agree, but a chip tuned to a modified vehicle does work. In an everyday driver, no mods, gains would be small.

"i would say bottom line,on a bone stock engine you would see little to no improvement.now,if you are planning some serious engine mods;bigger cam,more compression,gear changes,yada,yada,then it would come in handy to get the computer to get every thing back in line,per say".

Again I agree, but serious engine mods are seldom needed. Let the motor breath, more intake, more exhaust, more boost. Cam lift and duration, compression, have little effect, if the motor can not get air in, and push it out. All the cam and compression in the world, isn't going to work if we suck air in and push air out through a bar straw.

"I'm going with OceanArcher on this one too. Magic chips are marketed pretty agressively but the car maker has a pretty good idea how things should be done on their vehicles and homemade changes can give you endless problems and issues".

I'd say the "car maker", has a fair to midland idea of what works. My kid, and his wife are both engineers for Chrysler. Better put, "if it works leave it alone, if not we will fix it later". I can see by your post you have not likely ever worked on cars. And that's fine, no disrespect intended. But engineers have not a clue of what "works", BEST. Good enough, is good enough. They would like to, but it's not in the budget.

Engineers and car companies! An engineer can't be honest anymore. Did you know that cars (I assume from ANY company), NEVER, EVER! Start on fire! Some do however have a "thermal event". Some may even have an "excited expulsion of energy". Which means, "it blowed up real GOOD"! Possibly involving a "thermal event". FIRE!

Bottom line, can you buy a chip for $5 on ebay that is gong to give you 4mpg? Not likely. Can you buy a chip for $500 that's going to give you 4mpg? Maybe. Can you buy a $500 chip and do $2000 of mods to your car, and get 4-10 mpg more? Very possible.

So in answer to the original posters question, NO. I have not tried one yet, but after mods to my car, I likely will. It will take advantage of upgraded parts. And no! I do NOT work for any chip tuning company. But I have looked into this for more than a few years. And at least with my particular car, the chip is promoted to take advantage of mods you have made. They do claim gains on it's own, but the gains get bigger with the mods. And that comes from private parties, that have done it.

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MertieMan
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Message Posted: Jan 7, 2013 5:17:01 AM

Leave the vehicle as it came from the factory, why mess it up?
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dgsteven
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Message Posted: Jan 7, 2013 3:25:15 AM

no
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mustangman02232
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Message Posted: Apr 22, 2012 2:16:41 PM

"proper tire inflation will essentially provide you with the same outcome."

no way, if you buy a $5 chip off ebay, your getting what you pay for, a diablo or preferably an SCT Hand held tuner that plugs and plays into the ODB2 port is the way to go, my F350 6.0 stock did 14-16 mpg, now with my SCT it does 19-21 mpg regularly, infact while on a 700 mile round trip to pick up my mustang i got 17.5 mpg while towing about 5500 lbs with the trailer, it will also haul anything i need for work better, and when its play time, it will run a 13 second quarter mile at the drag strip, not bad for only haveing a $400 tune and a $250 exhaust on the truck, Rear tires get expensive
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gasmask78
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Message Posted: Apr 20, 2012 5:12:29 AM

proper tire inflation will essentially provide you with the same outcome.
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RRBC
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2012 8:46:04 PM

I wasn't aware of that. Good to know.
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2012 8:30:31 PM

I think it's a scam
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OceanArcher
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2012 8:54:57 AM

Wow -- Thanks for the accolades out there fellas and girls.

I gotta admit, finding one of these devices that would work reliably in your everyday driver would be equal to winning the lottery. Is it gonna happen ?? Probably not anytime soon, but like everybody else, I'll keep readin' and hoping ....
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Message Posted: Apr 19, 2012 8:17:06 AM

snake oil
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OilerFan
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Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 8:16:00 AM

If these chips helped many vehicles, AAA would be recommending them. Motor Trend would be pushing them.
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Message Posted: Apr 14, 2012 5:30:13 AM

i would say bottom line,on a bone stock engine you would see little to no improvement.now,if you are planning some serious engine mods;bigger cam,more compression,gear changes,yada,yada,then it would come in handy to get the computer to get every thing back in line,per say.
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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2012 7:39:31 PM

I'm going with OceanArcher on this one too. Magic chips are marketed pretty agressively but the car maker has a pretty good idea how things should be done on their vehicles and homemade changes can give you endless problems and issues.

Do the right stuff and stay safe out there.
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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2012 1:07:41 PM

Hello OceanArcher. You said, "Many computers don't have a replacable "chip". The darn thing is hard-wired (read soldered) into the circuit. How many of us are capable of the delicate efforts required for soldering and de-soldering on a printed circuit board?"

I know your background and you couldn't be more correct. Most of todays electronics are micro in size and surface mounted to the board. The power to these components is done by creating multi-layer ciruit boards. It is extremely easy with a soldering iron to "short-circuit" the board layers. I know you heard of Pace, Ocean, but for those who don't know what it is I explain. It is a highly controlled soldering station with temperature controls, various soldering tips, anti-static controls and a solder vacuum. I used one in the US Army and during Vietnam they cost over $2,000 and required extensive training. No, it would be folly to attempt soldering on todays circuit boards. Thanks for the input Ocean. Take care :-).

[Edited by: Titanic1985 at 4/13/2012 1:09:05 PM EST]
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Titanic1985
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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2012 12:57:08 PM

Hello bscott077. You've gotten a great deal of information from GBs. Certain individuals here are highly knowledgeable in electronics and go way back when vacuum tubes were being used. Yes, there are performance ICs (Integrated Circuits) available. The slang lingo is chips. As stated some are soldered in and some are plugable (the latter leads to corrosion and vibration related failures). Some are so involved, it takes an Engineer to reprogram them. My friend is a Virginia State Trooper. His Chevrolet Caprice would go 154 MPH which exceeded the Eagle tire Speed Rating of 150 MPH. GM sent an Engineer to de-tune the vehicle. Here is where I am going with this. Back in my garage days, late 1960's, we would change distributor advance weights to alter timing advances, etc. so the Supercars could race on weekends. It required a $2,000.00 Sun Scope to do the job accurately. Fast forward to today where you have computer controlled engines, transmissions, air-conditioners, emission devices, etc. It is NOT a hit or miss operation to change the "chip". Is it a scam? Many/most are. More importantly will it damage your vehicle and void your warranty. Take for example, a "Performance Chip" changes the timing advance or the automatic transmission shift points. It could cause the transmission to remain in overdrive beyond the engines peak torque curve and damage the vehicle. What if the transmission was ordered to downshift prematurely and over-rev (e.g. redline) the engine? No, without opinion, such a modification would have to be certified and tested before I would ever consider it and even then I wouldn't trust it for the previously mentioned reasons.

Every gas shortage (real or imagined), price increases, etc. brings these types of devices out on the market. One such device is on the Computer Forum which claims MPG improvement by plugging it into the cigarette lighter. I've studied that device and the logic is that an increased DC current load will cause the computer to "adapt". To make the device more sellable, they have LEDs (Light Emitting Diodes) on it to assure the driver it is working. The truth is that an increase in DC current draw will simply cause the regulator to compensate -- no MPG increase has been documented by many testings.

My best advise to keep your vehicle well maintained by changing filters when required and monitoring tire pressures. Avoid hauling around unneeded weight in the trunk and most importantly get to know your vehicle and drive sensibily. Best wishes :-) .

You don't mention specifics about your vehicle (e.g. year, model, engine, etc.). That would be helpful, but generically the vehicle is working as designed unless it is not properly maintained.
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Message Posted: Apr 13, 2012 12:51:45 PM

Check out these glowing ... um ... flaming reviews.
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jamieg2012
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Message Posted: Apr 12, 2012 9:21:19 PM

i do not know there even is a chip that you can turn on and off at will

to change chips you still have to program the ecu and to take it out you have to program it again

do not think you are going to find what you want
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