rick_evans

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Message Posted: May 23, 2013 3:25:37 PM
@Houckster "With regard to the ScangaugeE, the problem with it is that you can't download the data so you can retain data for each trip, you have to copy its display down after each trip and all one gets with the ScangaugeE is a composite figure which really isn't very enlightening."
I don't see the value in downloading data for each trip. The way the meter is used is to give a real time estimate of fuel economy for those interested in modifying driving style to optimize fuel economy. The ScangaugeE does retain the tank average MPG but that still has to be confirmed at fill-up.
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Jmac2008

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Message Posted: May 23, 2013 1:41:05 AM
yes factory and yes
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jack4141

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Message Posted: May 23, 2013 1:28:47 AM
Yes
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nickless

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Message Posted: May 23, 2013 12:48:54 AM
No
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GAJDHI

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Message Posted: May 22, 2013 10:45:32 PM
no
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giwan

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Message Posted: May 22, 2013 1:27:48 PM
no
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ace12012

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Message Posted: May 22, 2013 1:24:53 PM
no
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Houckster

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Message Posted: May 22, 2013 12:59:01 PM
@REB01501: Thanks.
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reb01501

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Message Posted: May 22, 2013 12:53:17 PM
"@" = "at" or "to". He was simply making it clear to whom he was replying. Nothing at all to do with Facebook.
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Houckster

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Message Posted: May 22, 2013 9:56:42 AM
First of all, I'm curious, I understand that @Houckster is a Facebook name but I have never used Facebook. Is this comment being posted on Facebook? ______ With regard to the ScangaugeE, the problem with it is that you can't download the data so you can retain data for each trip, you have to copy its display down after each trip and all one gets with the ScangaugeE is a composite figure which really isn't very enlightening.
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rick_evans

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Message Posted: May 22, 2013 8:08:20 AM
@Houckster -- " I would have bought one from the aftermarket if I'd seen one that was worthwhile. I'm still looking."
I have a ScangaugeE which gives realtime and averaged MPG, a variety of performance data and reads out OBD-II diagnostic codes. It's <$100 on Amazon.
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Houckster

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Message Posted: May 21, 2013 7:37:21 PM
No, I wish I did. I would have bought one from the aftermarket if I'd seen one that was worthwhile. I'm still looking.
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GLM4205

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Message Posted: May 21, 2013 5:39:56 AM
Nope
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kennyman

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Message Posted: May 21, 2013 12:35:45 AM
Yes I think so.
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jl1rp

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Message Posted: May 20, 2013 11:10:57 PM
no meter in it.
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Z12

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Message Posted: May 20, 2013 8:46:43 PM
Yes
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ace12012

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Message Posted: May 20, 2013 1:13:32 PM
no
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weddy11

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Message Posted: May 20, 2013 9:53:27 AM
yes, it came with the car and reads about .5 gallon higher than I am getting on my 2013 Honda Fit.
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IAMCANADIAN73

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Message Posted: May 20, 2013 9:41:47 AM
Nope
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IAMCANADIAN73

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Message Posted: May 20, 2013 9:41:20 AM
No
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RalphHightower

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Message Posted: May 20, 2013 6:15:12 AM
OEM
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dgsteven

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Message Posted: May 20, 2013 3:08:04 AM
no
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Jmac2008

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Message Posted: May 20, 2013 12:24:21 AM
yes
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blckwolf

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Message Posted: May 19, 2013 9:53:53 PM
Not on my truck or bike. My wife's car has one, but it only tracks the actual fuel economy at that moment, plus the average for that particular trip (A trip being from the time you start the car, until just before you shut it off).
[Edited by: blckwolf at 5/19/2013 9:55:42 PM EST]
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giwan

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Message Posted: May 19, 2013 9:18:06 PM
no
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Cirdan

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Message Posted: May 19, 2013 1:17:17 PM
Factory.
Can't say how accurate the instant reading is, but the long term tracks to my fuel log.
Nissan Rogue
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IAMCANADIAN73

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Message Posted: May 14, 2013 12:43:34 AM
Nope
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IAMCANADIAN73

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Message Posted: May 14, 2013 12:43:18 AM
No
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canadajane

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Message Posted: May 13, 2013 8:31:37 AM
Yes it seems to be pretty accurate
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51stovi

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Message Posted: May 13, 2013 7:18:10 AM
Our Toyota Sienna does and it is fairly accurate.
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IAMCANADIAN73

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Message Posted: May 13, 2013 6:40:40 AM
Nope
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IAMCANADIAN73

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Message Posted: May 13, 2013 6:40:20 AM
No
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streetirsx

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Message Posted: May 13, 2013 5:03:25 AM
Yes, integrated into the multifunction screen.
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dontuknowOH

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Message Posted: May 13, 2013 3:32:22 AM
I would think average tire pressure changes and E-10 % content would cause a mpg. varied read-out error at different times. Also driving in reverse.
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WEDDY

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Message Posted: May 12, 2013 2:37:23 PM
Yes.It reads about .5 to.7 mpg high. It came with the car, 2013 Honda Fit.
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GLM4205

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Message Posted: May 12, 2013 1:37:53 PM
No
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krazkar

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Message Posted: May 12, 2013 1:04:07 PM
Yes, my truck does. I really don't pay to much attention to it.
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CactusRoper

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Message Posted: May 12, 2013 9:35:44 AM
No
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IAMCANADIAN73

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Message Posted: May 12, 2013 8:00:59 AM
Nope
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IAMCANADIAN73

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Message Posted: May 12, 2013 8:00:42 AM
No
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GBMAX

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Message Posted: May 11, 2013 8:59:53 PM
factory
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pcbosis

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Message Posted: May 11, 2013 7:10:58 PM
yes, its called the person driving and not going to fast LOl
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Realakman

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Message Posted: May 11, 2013 4:56:23 PM
Yes, not entirely accurate. Figure it out myself and it shows better than the meter does.
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Desoto49

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Message Posted: May 11, 2013 3:31:00 PM
Yes, factory, and it appears fairly accurate
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dontuknowOH

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Message Posted: May 8, 2013 10:00:39 PM
reply; rick evens... I don't think I missed the point as you mentioned, maybe in one post that could be said but overall I fell the MPG read-outs are handy only as a guide.
What I was referring to is some drivers seem to state they are extremely accurate at the pump nozzles filling to what deems full and then noting pump information in making their calculations which find the OEM readouts to be somewhat in error.
E-10 content, evaporation, sloshed fuel, idle run-time, automatic fuel canister collection/purging of vapors, shelf life, ETC. can be factors between fill-ups V/S each drivers being over accurate and then finding error with the vehicle's gauges by comparison ...(my point).
Then there is the nozzle dribble after the pump shuts off on allowed amounts charged for, I have noticed but does everyone else, remember the days when some fillers use to lift the pump hose high into the air to wrestle out every drop.... seen that 20 years ago........ LOL
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mybigtruck

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Message Posted: May 8, 2013 4:36:09 PM
Mine's a good indicator of the overall running average over the past several hundred miles. It's within 0.5mpg of hand-calculated numbers
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Scottishmist87

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Message Posted: May 8, 2013 4:01:44 PM
Factory installed on my 2012 VW-Passat and seems to be very accurate.
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forestghost07

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Message Posted: May 8, 2013 4:00:38 PM
no, but my 28 ft boat did, and it was scary to look at
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rick_evans

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Message Posted: May 8, 2013 3:56:48 PM
@dontuknowOH -- "Guys I just don't see any Rocket Science calculations here where the pump nozzle click off determines the full tank in CC of fill-up.."
You miss the point. The meter is for real time readout which gives feed back on how you can adjust your driving. The accuracy is not as important as the trend. Also, my ScanguageE allows me to clear the occasional CEL.
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gassprite

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Message Posted: Apr 22, 2013 3:12:14 PM
Yes. Factory. I love it.
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