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Delboy_Derek

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Message Posted: May 25, 2010 12:05:30 PM

In the U.K. a lot of drivers have moved over to driving diesel engine cars for better economy.
Here is the car I drive in Scotland.

40 + mpg (US gallon size)
Ford Mondeo Estate (Station Wagon)
Engine 1.8 litre TDCI Diesel
0 - 60 > 12 secs
Top speed 125 mph

Location > Hamilton Scotland
Latest gas price today in Hamilton, Scotland = $6.06 / US Gallon size

http://www.ford.co.uk/Cars/Mondeo
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mybigtruck
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Message Posted: Aug 29, 2014 8:03:11 PM

diesel is more efficient than gas by definition
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b899
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Message Posted: Aug 29, 2014 9:06:16 AM

no
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jdmd6613
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Message Posted: Aug 29, 2014 8:39:58 AM

NO
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b899
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2014 8:29:22 AM

no
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dchawk81
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2014 4:17:55 AM

If I was buying something new anyway, yes I'd look at a new diesel. However, I'm cheap so I'm not so I won't.
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twt
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2014 1:48:48 AM

No. They pollute and they stink.
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oldhillbillyAZ
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Message Posted: Aug 28, 2014 1:45:25 AM

CactusBobs:
Ya Haven't seen me driving huh....I almost "NEVER" use cruise control on hilly terrain.
I drove sticks most of my life with a few exceptions. Picking up speed going downhill and bleeding off speed going up hills is second nature. Back in the day I used to drive across country running with the trucks (yacking on the CB). Always seem to get better mileage that way. (driving not the yacking)

One of the first things that I noticed with the Diesel I bought was on long 5-6% grades you "could" set the cruise and it would pull the hills and never change gears. My old GEO I was constantly going up and down a gear. (torque is wonderful)

Thanks for the trip down memory lane....
Super "C" Farmalls, "A" John Deere's, 20 cows to "Hand" milk before Breakfast...
Now I remember why I gave up the farm life... that and the military (Vietnam).

Back in the day I had a vacuum Gauge (looked like a tach) I used to drive by that to help me save on that $0.35 a gallon gas.


[Edited by: oldhillbillyAZ at 8/28/2014 1:46:30 AM EST]
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CactusBobs
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Message Posted: Aug 27, 2014 12:25:05 PM

oldhillbillyAZ: there's another part to this MPG thing you don't know......I Drive like nobody else on any AZ road I have ever seen!
I was born and raised on a farm, driving farm vehicles from the age of 12-13 all of them open cab,most with worn out engines,no brakes. these where tractors that you needed to drive carefully just to keep from ruining them.

this upbringing made me a careful slow in steady driver. very much in tune with the cars sounds and feels . if a car does not like speeds above 60 i don't drive above that
I am often passed when starting at a traffic light because i start off to slowly, i don't drive slow i just start off that way.
On a hwy trip I don't use the cruse control, i would much rather use my foot and let the car slow down on the up-hills and speed up on the down hills.

All of these habits(and more) are "just what the doctor ordered" for driving a Diesel to Get the best MPG(and longest life from the equipment).

I was born to drive a Diesel , not everybody is..PS: and that goes double for the people of AZ who are in one big rush to get nowhere.
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contiki
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Message Posted: Aug 27, 2014 7:17:30 AM

Never.....ever...........no interest whatsoever..........
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randy3116
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Message Posted: Aug 27, 2014 5:36:06 AM

never had one but am willing to consider
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oldhillbillyAZ
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Message Posted: Aug 27, 2014 4:01:41 AM

CactusBobs:

38 MPG with a "S" class Mercedes... I wonder just how many are going "RIGHT"
I'll have to admit the thought crossed my mind too...
With a few minutes... a computer... and an open mind...Yes it's very possible.

The Merc weighs 3500 lbs.
(that's 250 lbs more than a Camry) With more torque.
(that's 250 lbs more than an Accord with more torque.

All this while having 6" longer wheelbase. (and we all know longer WB better ride)

I'm guessing the hardest thing to do in that car @ 70 MPH is "Stay Awake".

And last but not least... little cars...little engines...Good fuel mileage.
Bigger cars....Diesel engines...Good fuel mileage... took me 40 years to figure
that out. (Oh well I guess priorities change with age.)

[Edited by: oldhillbillyAZ at 8/27/2014 4:02:04 AM EST]
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pt1KY
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2014 8:34:01 PM

no
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CactusBobs
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2014 3:19:14 PM

oldhillbillyAZ: yes the "big one" but i have the SWB , but even as a short this car is large, and heavy,and super quiet . it has a duel firewall setup and even on the freeway, close the windows and the world goes away. clearly the finest car i have ever owned. around town it gets 26MPG. on a trip to phoenix and back to pine(180 miles round trip)on route 87 @ 65-70 MPH with the AC blasting .......are you ready for this...........38MPG !!!!!.

I love this car!
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Awing1
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2014 11:09:55 AM

no
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b899
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2014 8:28:03 AM

no
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dassfg
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2014 7:49:20 AM

Have for years - lots of savings
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RalphHightower
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2014 5:53:05 AM

possibly
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nickless
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2014 5:45:46 AM

yes
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twt
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2014 5:32:16 AM

Never have, never will.
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oldhillbillyAZ
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2014 2:38:43 AM

CactusBobs sez....
my latest Diesel: 1982 Mercedes-Benz 300SD (W126)

W126... That's the one you used to see all the Diplomats in.
Is it the LWB ???
I knew a man that had one back in the 80(s) in Phoenix
said he was getting 30 MPG back then.
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CactusBobs
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2014 1:33:25 AM

I have, I do, and i will do it again in the morning! I have owned a dozen or more Diesels and worked on a hundred or more over the years.

good ones and not so good. but once it's under your skin you can't get rid of it
Once you have made your own fuel .....there's no going back to buying gasoline.

my latest Diesel: 1982 Mercedes-Benz 300SD (W126) 89K and even smells new.
I can see myself owning this cream-puff for the rest of my days.
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Jmac2008
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2014 12:53:14 AM

Yes
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oldhillbillyAZ
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Message Posted: Aug 26, 2014 12:10:51 AM

Never seen a car blow a head gasket at 35,000 miles (except a VEGA) Unless the driver overheated it, Hydra-loc(ed) it, or the engine was built for racing.

Since we're talking a 70(s) VW Rabbit "Diesel" I doubt the last one applies.
After reading an earlier post concerning having to climb the mountains in Colorado with your foot on the floor and in second gear....Overheating sounds likely. I don't know for sure but I'd be willing to go out on a limb and say the car was bought from a dealer at a much lower elevation and was in need of some injector fine tuning.
This is one of the big pluses of a Turbocharger.
I doubt dirty fuel or water was the problem....however referring back to an earlier post when you said you seem to have problems reading the pump labels, putting gasoline in a Diesel might cause the problems you listed.

Diesels are not for everyone...and in your case it sounds like you might fit in that category.

As far as one of your last posts you said: "I think I understand"
I'm at the point where I believe that to be impossible.
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Les4hdtv
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2014 10:51:25 AM

Never again - Breakdown at 35K and out of warrantee. Weeks sitting in the VW yard waiting for parts. Cost to repair: Ten percent of the sticker price of the waggon.
Blown head gasket, bad injector pump. Could have been dirty diesel or water in the fuel but never heard? Don't typically have those kind of worries with gas. Who needs that worry?

Piece of mind is spelled "VVT-I" under the hood of a Hybrid rice-burner.
MPG very close to the same as the diesel, guaranteed!
And you don't have to wait precious mill-second to spin up a blower to get those horsies moving.
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jay93LA
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2014 7:49:37 AM

yes
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OilerFan
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2014 7:42:24 AM

If it's the modern diesel technology, then yes. The turbodiesels get better mileage than the hybrids.
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Message Posted: Aug 25, 2014 3:33:31 AM

yes
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sagnat
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Message Posted: Aug 24, 2014 12:46:01 PM

Been running my diesel wago for a little over two years and 92,000 miles holding a steady 42MPG average (hand calculated). No urea tank to fill, no smelly exhaust and most folks still don't know its a diesel. Even had a nice lady try to tell me I was putting the wrong fuel in my car...of course, she waited until I was done before mentioning it...funny look on her face when I told her it takes diesel.
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Message Posted: Aug 24, 2014 12:24:55 PM

yup
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contiki
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Message Posted: Aug 24, 2014 8:02:36 AM

Never.....ever.......no interest in diesel................
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b899
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Message Posted: Aug 23, 2014 9:41:51 AM

no
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Les4hdtv
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Message Posted: Aug 21, 2014 1:29:48 PM

HillBillyAz, you sure do love them diesel road wagons.

I think I understand how you get to 7 cent/mile even with expensive maintenance every 40,000 miles and diesel more expensive than gas?
But, my wife's Hybrid of equal weight and size gets 43 MPG average with 3.11 dollar gas so that comes out to 7.25 cents per mile. So for a quarter of a penny, do we really want to mess with a noisier diesel (relative to a Hybrid)with a urea tank to feed and a turbo to replace when it croaks?

Thank's, Les
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Jackson126
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2014 7:33:47 AM

Yes
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Message Posted: Aug 20, 2014 5:48:22 AM

Sure yes
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no
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Message Posted: Aug 16, 2014 9:54:32 AM

No
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oldhillbillyAZ
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2014 6:49:59 PM

Been looking for over a year....
Still haven't smelled anything but a slight chlorine smell (kinda like the laundry room)
Been watching for smoke...haven't seen any yet.

Still Costing around $.07 mile in fuel
Maintenance / Service cost so far "0"

But I'll keep watching...
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Message Posted: Aug 13, 2014 9:41:49 AM

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twt
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Message Posted: Aug 12, 2014 4:41:35 AM

No. They stink and emit black smoke.
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Message Posted: Aug 12, 2014 3:20:29 AM

yes
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mybigtruck
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Message Posted: Aug 12, 2014 3:02:52 AM

I sure do and I love it. 350hp, 650ftlbs torque bone stock. When tuned, it's a monster



[Edited by: mybigtruck at 8/12/2014 3:04:22 AM EST]
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2014 8:38:15 PM

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Les4hdtv
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Message Posted: Aug 11, 2014 11:12:02 AM

No! While the diesel engine is a life saver for the trucking industry, it is a GENERALLY poor investment in economical long-term stop and go noncommercial transportation. It requires more expensive maintenance and a special additive schedule that the gas burners do not have.

Because the diesel {pound for pound) is underpowered, it usually uses a turbo-blower which remains the weakest-link in the drive-train.
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Les4hdtv
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Message Posted: Aug 5, 2014 3:17:13 PM

OldHillBillyAZ, Greetings - I just got back from a 250 mile round trip to the Shiloh National Battlefield in Tennessee in my new 2014.5 Toyota Camry 6-speed, 4-banger-Gas burner.

I saw Gas in AL/MS running as low as 3.11 and Diesel ran anywhere from 40 to 70 cents a gallon HIGHER. How the hell do you get your diesel so cheap?

With only 25 total miles on interstate, I got a whopping 41.7 MPG.
The car is rated for 28/35 MPG. The OEM tires are Mich Energy Saver A/S.
The car came with Instant MPG, Average MPG, MPG history.
The calculation at the pump matched the car computer number. Nice!

Steering is Electric, but still has a belt for A/C and Generator.

Cheers, good buddy...
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