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ingrazm

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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2010 12:30:48 AM

Hi everyone.

My father told me that i will get better mileage with more expensive gas (like from Chevron/Shell) than from cheap gas like from Arco and he actually tested it.

Now the price on regular gas on Chevron 2.95 and the price of Premium on Arco is 2.93.

And here is the question. What do you think, with which gas can I a get a better mileage? With Premium from Arco or Regular from Chevron?

Is there a difference between mileages from cheap and expensive gas of the same category (Regular)? Has anyone actually tested it?

Thank you all for your answers!

P.S. My car is Honda Accord 2000, don't know which grade by manual this car requires.

[Edited by: ingrazm at 1/8/2010 12:34:25 AM EST]
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wamster
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Message Posted: Feb 16, 2013 9:00:23 AM

Arco is one of the worst fuels you can use. I spoke with a Honda mechanic who had 3 clients bring their Hondas in with clogged fuel lines in one week. They had all filled up at Arco.
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yplust
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Message Posted: Jan 7, 2013 1:24:06 AM

Reg 87
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emtrob2012
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Message Posted: Jan 7, 2013 1:04:45 AM

I use reg 87 gas
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xbAG
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Message Posted: Jan 6, 2013 4:17:29 PM

least expensive
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Mr1lung
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 1:17:25 PM

cheap
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MertieMan
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Message Posted: Jan 5, 2013 7:51:12 AM

Your father is certainly behind the times. No you will not get better milage because the gas is all the same and comes from the same terminal in a given area. Brand names mean absolutely nothing anymore. With ethanol in it the milage will decrease by 1-4 mpg in a tank full.
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TXBruin
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Message Posted: Jan 3, 2013 9:28:26 AM

cheap
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JasTheAce
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Message Posted: Dec 28, 2012 5:11:05 PM

cheap
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emtrob2012
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Message Posted: Dec 21, 2012 8:48:42 PM

cheap..
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carinthuist
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Message Posted: Dec 21, 2012 5:57:59 PM

no
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ricebike
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Message Posted: Dec 21, 2012 5:42:31 AM

the original post was 2 years ago... hit-n-run posting...
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diesdown
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 6:59:03 PM

As Dennis783 said ,"If the octane is the same, I'd but the cheaper gas."

Butting cheaper gas is the way to go! At least make you feel better.
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JohnTIZ
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 4:07:42 PM

Here in Canada the major brand tanker goes to the alternate brand station; it's all the same stuff. What is important is that you buy your gasoline from a high volume station so you don't get stuff that's been sitting in the tank for a week or longer.
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OceanArcher
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Message Posted: Dec 20, 2012 9:04:12 AM

Good luck with your testing -- let us know how it works out for you ...
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Casey225
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Message Posted: Dec 19, 2012 2:37:32 PM

You would actually have to sample the gas to find out its content and that changes with production of fuel.
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2amy
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Message Posted: Dec 19, 2012 1:31:42 PM

I personally think you will see a fraction if any by using premium fuel. If your car does not need it (knocking, pinging)then you really dont need it. It will just take a tad bit out of your pocket book by using premium. If your still insistent on it then stay away from Chevron and Shell. They are the priciest in my area.
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Snowchoux
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Message Posted: Dec 19, 2012 10:57:18 AM

I think you get a little better MPG with the high octane. The higher octane also cleans your injectors.
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Alien6500
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Message Posted: Dec 18, 2012 9:00:31 AM

i dont think price helps mileage and octane make little difference
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NanookAK
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2010 1:19:13 PM

I think the Octane rating has more to do with gas mileage than the price of the gas.
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StickySam
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2010 10:23:25 AM

When I owned a Honda CB900 motorbike in England the Honda manual stated 2 star petrol ( about 87 octane ) so I did. I visited a pal in France who had also bought a Honda CB900, his French Honda manual stated 4 star ( about 95 octane ) and that is what he was using. We swopped bikes for a day, he complained my bike engine was wheezy/flat/no pep to it. I thought his bike was faster/stronger/better acceleration. When he filled my bike up he put 4 star petrol in as usual, my bike instantly was more lively. After that I put 4 star in all the time, the fuel was also better by 2 or 3 mpg.

I have tried the same in my Chevrolet pickup and noticed no difference, I think it it horses for courses.
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Dennis783
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Message Posted: Jan 11, 2010 10:07:35 AM

If the octane is the same, I'd but the cheaper gas.
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ajhoier
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Message Posted: Jan 10, 2010 1:47:21 PM

Higher octane fuel used in a vehicle that doesn't require it will result in un burned gasoline......and thus, carbon deposits/build up in the intake.

I wouldn't try it. Just go with what the manual says.
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ricebike
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Message Posted: Jan 10, 2010 12:09:08 AM

if you drive a vehicle that does not have a high performance engine (one that clearly indicates you should use a higher octane gasoline), there is really no reason to spend the extra money to buy the more expensive gasoline at the pump
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airduct
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Message Posted: Jan 9, 2010 3:49:50 PM

I think in most cases the conditions of the tanks have more to do with it than just contaminated gas....
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wamster
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Message Posted: Jan 9, 2010 2:57:26 PM

I believe Arco is the worst gasoline you can buy, hence the cheap price. When I lived in California, I met a Honda mechanic who had 3 Hondas show up in his garage in one week due to gummed up fuel lines. All 3 people were using Arco regular.A lot of times it depends on how well the service station maintains their fuel tanks too. There's a couple of diesel stations in Texas that I've used, and they let water build up in their tanks. We've had to drain the water out of our diesel truck after I made the mistake of fueling up there.

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BUSSY
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Message Posted: Jan 9, 2010 12:33:52 PM

Use the grade of gas recommended by the auto manufacturer.
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airduct
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Message Posted: Jan 9, 2010 10:14:09 AM

>>P.S. My car is Honda Accord 2000, don't know which grade by manual this car requires.

Have you ever considered looking? Or maybe asking the local Honda dealer!

Sure, buy the most expensive highest octane gas you can find. Why not consider 110 octane race gas. Give that 10 year old Honda the very best, it deserves it. Then hit your old man up for the cost, that is if he is not already paying for it...... LOL

Most gas for one particular area comes from one or two terminals in that area.... The only distinction as to the "brand" of gas is from the additive packages that are added at the terminal prior to delivery to the station.... Chances are the same tanker truck that delivers to your local Arco station also delivers to the local Chevron station. The only difference is the additive package.
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Cummins2500
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2010 5:24:43 PM

The last time I was in an area that had Arco Stations they sold the cheapest water laced bottom of the storage tank gas they can find to sell that is most likely why your dad said to buy gas premium quality gas (not premium grade gas) at Shell or Chevron and not from Arco.
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ricebike
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2010 2:57:44 PM

mike look around... especially w/ the jeep forums (not this site) carbon buildup due to unburnt gasoline (you know higher octane gas burns slower, right?)

look for main word, seafoam, as one of the decarboning processes that you can do (sure, you may have to remove/clean or replace the spark plugs and 02 sensor after the process)
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NanookAK
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2010 2:52:08 PM

I don't think there is any need to use a higher octane than what your owner's manual recommends.
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ricebike
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2010 8:46:21 AM

i already answered his ? if he's experiencing pinging in his engine using 87, then he possibly has carbon buildup and using a higher octane will be a bandaid until he "decarbonize" the combustion chambers/intake (google that too)

sidenote: to the OP, i'd be worried more about maintaining your transmission (more frequent trans oil changes) since most hondas/acuras after 2000+ were showing increasing signs of failures/complaints across most models)
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Baron62nd
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2010 8:21:58 AM

It really depends on your vehicle. My LeSabre requires 87 octane, put 92 or 93 octane in it and the mileage drops even worse than using E10. Your father's vehicle probably requires the higher octane.

You can't make a blanket statement about what gas is best. Our Park Avenue calls for 89 to 92 octane, but it will run just as good on 87, and it doesn't care what brand. The LeSabre will start to misfire on Casey's after a couple of tank, the only gas it likes is Phillips.
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ricebike
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2010 8:11:11 AM

not when it comes to octane levels mike...

to the OP, i googled it for you; your car requires REGULAR 87 octane gas

if you feel like getting the premium arco, it's your choice, but it'll lead to more carbon fouling of your intake and emissions passageways

if arco is cheaper, why not just buy regualr there or plus, if you have carbon buildup already in the combustion chamber and is exhibiting "pinging"

see honda-tech.com or google it for more research

dee dee deeeeeeeeeeeeee

[Edited by: ricebike at 1/8/2010 8:14:28 AM EST]
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a351c
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2010 4:59:03 AM

Whatever the mfg recommended is the way to go
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sbexplorer05
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2010 3:34:35 AM

i been using premium since my first car.
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HeavyDuty_cache
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2010 2:41:01 AM

Please post some gas prices...
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PaylessKY
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Message Posted: Jan 8, 2010 12:55:12 AM

Use the octane your car calls for if it's 87, 89 or 91+. Some stations like Chevron or Shell or others claims their premium has 5X the cleaners as the regular. If your car calls for 87 octane I would only put premium in every oil change to help keep the injectors clean.
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