Snowchoux
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Message Posted: Feb 14, 2013 3:43:16 PM
I'll believe it when I see it.
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drydem
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Message Posted: Sep 2, 2012 10:45:23 AM
Giteup:
the 100mpg X-prize winner was the Edison2 VLC [1] but is strictly a prototype and not for sale. Edison2 redesigned the VLC (2nd gen) into an all electrical car - but whether they can sell it commercially is another ball of wax. Chevy Volt and the Toyota Plug-in Prius (which are being sold now) can get +100 mpg under certain driving conditions. The Aptera (which is classified as a motorcycle in most states) which can get +100 mpg has been bought by Zhejiang Jonway Automobile Co Ltd of China[2]
[1]
/very-light-car/
/EVWORLD_TV.CFM?storyid=2071
[2]
Zhejiang Jonway Automobile Co Ltd
/2012/05/jonway-bought-aptera-showcasing-three-wheeled-ev-concept/
/en/news_photo.asp?k=&n=&page=2
[Edited by: drydem at 9/2/2012 10:46:32 AM EST]
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dontuknowOH
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 9:29:09 AM
It seems there is a trend; when we get all the gas guzzlers off the roads,the fuel prices can be adjusted toward the new 100 mpg units,what's this ratio going to be... maybe a new climbing rate...
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firefight66
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Message Posted: Aug 7, 2012 8:20:50 AM
Wouldn't that be great!
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drive66
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Message Posted: Aug 3, 2012 9:24:58 AM
sign me up!
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vikings80
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Message Posted: Aug 3, 2012 9:10:40 AM
yes
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GBHUGVA
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Message Posted: Aug 3, 2012 8:16:38 AM
yes!!
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GBHUGVA
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2012 10:14:20 PM
Allready here : Ford Focus Elec. 105 mpge
I want a plug in hybrid, the Ford C-Max this fall the best choice for all situations.
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cmmattia
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Message Posted: Jul 21, 2012 2:15:15 PM
i dont think so...
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john4122
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2012 6:44:25 AM
Hope so
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nfldude
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Message Posted: Jul 15, 2012 4:19:09 AM
federal highway dollars are a flat fee per gallon tax, regulators restrict high mileage cars as they do not pay their 'fair share' to the feds. The high numbers in Europe will not come here until a new 'per mile driven' system is in place.
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ronaldo13
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Message Posted: Jun 26, 2012 8:01:34 AM
Giteup..........try the Volkswagen BlueMotion Passat.....does 89.93 MPG (Imperial) which is already avaliable and on the road.........only thing is you can not have it in North America, it is avaliable in Europe.
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lemelind
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Message Posted: Jun 6, 2012 11:37:33 PM
i hope
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kxy4fw
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Message Posted: Jun 6, 2012 11:23:32 AM
no
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HotRod10
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Message Posted: Jun 6, 2012 9:26:43 AM
Yep, you're dreaming. Physics works, whether we like it or not.
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gobux10
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Message Posted: Jun 6, 2012 7:35:39 AM
probably won't have good crash ratings
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OilerFan
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Message Posted: Jun 6, 2012 7:31:05 AM
I would hope, but I suspect not.
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vikings80
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Message Posted: Jun 6, 2012 4:54:28 AM
no
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GBHUGVA
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Message Posted: May 11, 2012 1:05:30 PM
Allready here : Ford Focus Elec. 105 mpge
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timmyC4
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Message Posted: May 11, 2012 11:23:44 AM
Nope
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kxy4fw
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Message Posted: May 11, 2012 9:33:45 AM
I doubt it
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reb4
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Message Posted: May 9, 2012 9:22:35 PM
Has ford sold any ev electrics? As of April has been less than bakers dozen...
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butcherc
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Message Posted: May 9, 2012 5:14:16 PM
I wish!
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rick_evans
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Message Posted: May 9, 2012 3:29:28 PM
Giteup -- "Am I dreaming?"
Depends on what you mean by affordable and family size.
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ronaldo13
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Message Posted: May 9, 2012 10:17:25 AM
Volkswagon already has a 100 Mile car in he works. It is 4 meters long and is a two passanger model. Proto type has been completed.
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bonbNJ
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Message Posted: May 4, 2012 4:44:43 AM
NO
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johnchase
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 10:04:51 PM
Yes
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MikeyP8
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 1:49:41 PM
word
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GBHUGVA
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Message Posted: May 3, 2012 10:01:11 AM
Allready here : Ford Focus Elec. 105 mpge
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GBHUGVA
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Message Posted: May 1, 2012 7:49:43 AM
Hey Cummins2500, Let Ford know I haven't seen any checks!, are you corn and cows, or driven trucks? I've seen Iowa before, when traveling. I'm just suporting the good ol USA not asian car companies, if Ford wants to pay thats fine, send em my way!
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Cummins2500
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 3:17:41 PM
GBHUGVA,
Based on the fact you mainly post Ford PR news releases makes you look more and more like a paid Astroturfer.
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GBHUGVA
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 1:03:03 PM
200 MPH cars here !!! :
2013 Ford Shelby GT500 is most powerful Mustang...ever!
Posted in: Commentary, by Gregg Laskoski on Apr 28, 2012 08:00 AM
2013 Ford Shelby GT500It's a beast. 662 horsepower. 631 lbs.-ft. of torque. Top speed could surpass 200 mph. That's the latest Ford Mustang V-8 which has just been certified as the most powerful series production V-8 in the world.
Made in Flat Rock, Mich., the car delivers 112 horsepower more than the 2012 model, and, it even improves on fuel efficiency, getting 1 mpg more (city and highway) with estimated mileage at 15 mpg (city) and 24 mpg (hwy) for 18 mpg combined.
Acknowledging top speeds in excess of 200 mph, Car and Driver magazine says: "Chew on that, Camaro ZL1. Heck; chew on that, Corvette Z06, with your piddling 198 mph. Overall, Ford says the 2013 GT500 has 33 percent more downforce at 160 mph than its predecessor. With a factory Mustang joining the 200-mph club, drivers will appreciate standard Brembo brakes with six-piston calipers in the front and larger rotors and new pads at all four corners."
Car and Driver also said: "The GT500 tops the Mercedes-Benz S63 AMG by 99 hp. It beats the mighty Cadillac CTS-V by 106. For heaven’s sake, the GT500 has 232 more horsepower than does the base Corvette. Even the gladiatorial Vette ZR1 falls shy, at 638 hp and 604 lb-ft."
Ford is not confirming the price just yet, but USA TODAY reported that the 2013 GT500's horsepower is matched by only a handful of exotic vehicles going for upwards of $100,000. MSN says Ford's suggested retail price will be $54,995.
Clearly, cars like these don't come around very often. And in the U.S. with CAFE standards pressing manufacturers to go green, reduce horse power and shrink engines... the 2013 GT500 might be a Ford Mustang milestone edition that perhaps will not be trumped for many years. Did we mention the 662 horses? That's not a typo.
What NO Asian Pony cars!! GO American Muscle!
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JCClark2012
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 9:14:09 AM
We already have the technology to get well over a 100 mpg on any car. The problem is the gas, oil, and anyone else that has a stake in keeping these products of the market are paying top dollar to stop anyone who invents such a thing from bringing it to market. Just another case of someone trying to get richer while screwing over the rest of us.
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JerzJim
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 8:27:59 AM
You will get 100 MPG cars when they are done soaking us on the 30 - 40 MPG cars. Naturally you wont go from 40 - 100 without passing through 50, 60, 70 , 80, & 90. That would cheat them out of much money. Its all about the money. Don't hold your breath. I read something a long time ago that said that car makers knew how to make a car that could get 100 MPG, but there was no incentive to make them when people were paying for 20 MPG cars. We pay $20,000 and up for a car these days... that to me is a lot of cash. There is a lot of incentive there...
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GBHUGVA
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Message Posted: Apr 30, 2012 7:40:25 AM
A NICE USED FORD Escape/MERCURY Mariner/MAZDA Tribute HYBRIDs IS THE WAY TO GO 32.5mpg!! A 2005 can be found under $10K Then pick up the Plug-in conversion from Enginer.com to get 50+ mpg.
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Fluffyt23
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 10:37:42 PM
i want one lol but wont ever be able to afford it.
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Fluffyt23
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 10:37:41 PM
i want one lol but wont ever be able to afford it.
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PatAZ
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Message Posted: Apr 29, 2012 3:18:03 PM
Volkswagen has a vehicle for 2014 that gets a combined 235 mpg according to Road & Track.
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dvc2
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Message Posted: Apr 20, 2012 1:03:09 PM
not going to happen in our lifetimes.
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jonjon57
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Message Posted: Apr 20, 2012 7:51:00 AM
No
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maxstar
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Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 9:24:51 AM
What is soon? This topic is over 3-1/2 years old.
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kxy4fw
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Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 8:55:15 AM
I believe you are dreaming.
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firefight66
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Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 8:40:53 AM
Can't wait.
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GBHUGVA
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Message Posted: Apr 16, 2012 7:40:59 AM
2013 Ford Fusion debuts along with 47-MPG Fusion Hybrid, 100-MPGe Fusion Energi!!!
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ronaldo13
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Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 4:26:53 PM
My son had a Volkswagen Jetta Diesel and at steady 130-140 KPH it did 65 MPG.
The engine was as quiet or quieter than a gas engine. So we are getting there.
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ronaldo13
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Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 4:22:09 PM
tdioiler:
Just a few corrections to your post:
The first ESX target milage was 80 MPG and achieved 55 MPG actual. Cost was about $80,000 or $60,000 more than the standard model. It used lead acid batteries NOT lithium ion batteries.
The second the ESX11 target mileage was 70 MPG used a aluminum frame and carbon fiber composite material. Cost was $37,000 or $15,000 more than the standard model. Batteries were nickel metal hydride.
The third the ESX111 targets was 70 MPG and used injection moulded thermoplastic material. Cost was $7,500 more than the standard model.
It used lithium ion batteries.
Ronaldo
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JCLNC
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Message Posted: Apr 15, 2012 12:39:44 AM
I don't think its going to happen.
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tdioiler
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Message Posted: Apr 9, 2012 11:48:30 AM
Ronaldo, the ESX never went anywhere since fuel was less than $2.50/gal at that point. Plus the $7,500 was the target, not actual cost. Add a few decimals...... and the lithium ion battery was explosive; roll forward to the GM Volt issues.
The current 100 MPG vehicle is a bicycle;
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fondupot
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Message Posted: Apr 9, 2012 11:38:21 AM
Not soon enough.
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ronaldo13
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Message Posted: Apr 8, 2012 5:21:26 PM
Here is how the system works...........Oil and Auto manufacturers all have interlocking board members, its called vertical integration. The oil companies increase the price of oil from say $75 a barrel to $95 a barrel and the auto manufacturers market a car that gets 30 mpg instead of 25 mpg so everyone has to buy a more fuel efficient car. After everyone has bought a new more fuel efficient car they, the oil companies, then increase the price of oil to $110 a barrel and the auto manufacturers market a car that gets 37 mpg instead of 30 mpg so everyone has to buy another fuel efficient car again. And this process is repeated over and over again. As you can see Chrysler produced a car 15 years ago that got 86.73 mpg (a matter of fact and not a conspericy theory) and it was cancelled. I am sure that 100 mpg is achievable today but the technology will not be released until the oil companies are getting $150 or $200 a barrel for oil. Why would they want to disrupt their cash flow. Do you really think they give a rats axx about you? They are only interested in one thing $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
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